Two kids died trying to max out top speed...

[Chiznarles]

I don't know if this is a repost.. but here:

http://www.azstarnet.com/star/Sun/30525FATALROLLOVER.html

Apparently he was telling ppl on the Mitsubishi boards that he was gonna max out his car on canyon carving.. he never came back to tell about it cuz he crashed and killed himself and his friend..

He posted this on some forum before he died..

Here's the link:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ClubDSM_SW/message/33527

Brian Mullholland posts:
So Im cruising in my 97 gst, still with the old t25. I have
gunned it before trying to see how fast it can go. I was pushing 17psi while gunning it down 1st and at 138 the turbo just stoped working. I was pretty tipsy at the time, and to out of it to really realize what i had done. Last night though cruisin up sabino I desided to test out my top speed again. I was using a clean 14psi so i wouldnt mess up turbo again, then at 138 the turbo stoped working again. Now Im a little
worried and i think its definately time to drop the big 16g i have into the car.

Either way, how fast have you all pushed your car, and where?

Brian
97 gst"


Whats really scary is that when I first got my car when I was 21 (back in 2000), I would try to max out my car, and I hit 140 a few times on a empty straight desert highway..

[oONoGoAutoOo]

wow. thats pretty sad....

[baNanA_ryCe]

omg......i've gone over 100..but to like 102...chickened out....thats scary....

[KrazY-2K]

Yet another tragedy :(. I wouldn't dare try to canyon carve going that fast. Hell I've only taken my car up to 100mph on a deserted straightaway. Man, my prayers go out to those two poor saps. Hopefully this sends out a message.

[EuGeNiLe GTS]

sad.. RIP

[SuperCelica[GTS]]

that sux

[TaeMachine]

Don't drink and drive, period.

[SeraphimX]

Originally posted by SuperCelica[GTS]
that sux


y'know, the whole reason why I don't sit in my friends car is that he went 180km/h on the freeway with 4 ppl in his skyline(he would have gone faster if not for the limiter)

[KSilver2000]

This reminds me of when me and my friends in one of my friend's celica were coming back from SF to home one night. He was driving like 120-130 on his stock tires and the road wasn't even straight. Let me say this from experience (some people might say I'm a chicken but I can't help overcome that feeling), going 130 on stock tires and when the road isn't even straight or flat, PLEASE beg your friend to stop. I was pretty scared. The funniest thing about that moment was all of a sudden he came right next to a cop car and I guess the cop didn't know were were going that fast, but my friend braked from like 130 to 70 right next to a cop car without getting stopped.

[Iceman]

ever since i've gotten my cf hood, i've started to drive more conservatively. so no more top speed testing (and who the hell does it on a canyon run??? that kinda crap scares me because my car almost went into a ravine at the Angeles Nat. Forrest when my brakes locked going into a turn)

[alphasubzero949]

I'm sorry but this deserves an award...

http://www.lamer.net/darwin.jpg


or, to be better put, some chlorine for the gene pool.

[Vietnese]

Pretty crazy a few days ago 2 more people were killed in a small city in kansas, 2 people were racing on a city road and one of them lost control and hit a bus, 1 died for sure and last i knew other one was in a hospital

[Sups]

Originally posted by Iceman
ever since i've gotten my cf hood, i've started to drive more conservatively. so no more top speed testing (and who the hell does it on a canyon run??? that kinda crap scares me because my car almost went into a ravine at the Angeles Nat. Forrest when my brakes locked going into a turn)

same here, well for the cf hood thing. i'm scared to go over 80 since i dont have pins on. i was actually thinking of putting some on so i can drive a little faster(when flow of traffic allows it) but if i do, it wouldnt be to go faster.

i think we all had our times where we wanted to push our cars to the limits. i remember last year i would drive home from college going 130+ at 2am in the morning just to get home sooner. and once going to magic mountain with some friends i got to 130 on the open hwy. but like many of us, i now know how stupid that was and the danger that i was putting on myself, and worst, the danger i was putting on my friends. too bad he couldnt figure that out sooner...

[Immortal]

Originally posted by alphasubzero949
I'm sorry but this deserves an award...

http://www.lamer.net/darwin.jpg


or, to be better put, some chlorine for the gene pool.

:werd:

It's all about the common sense.

[jotan82]

sad...

[mjsimon]

Originally posted by alphasubzero949
I'm sorry but this deserves an award...

http://www.lamer.net/darwin.jpg


or, to be better put, some chlorine for the gene pool.

:werd:

[F35-JSF]

Originally posted by KrazY-2K
Yet another tragedy :(. I wouldn't dare try to canyon carve going that fast. Man, my prayers go out to those two poor saps. Hopefully this sends out a message.

:werd:

[Drag'nGT]

Originally posted by Iceman
ever since i've gotten my cf hood, i've started to drive more conservatively. so no more top speed testing (and who the hell does it on a canyon run??? that kinda crap scares me because my car almost went into a ravine at the Angeles Nat. Forrest when my brakes locked going into a turn)

I lost control like that on a wet road and nearly slid into a ditch. It scared the hell outta me. But I would have sh*t a brick if I had been staring at a ravine and that happened. :AF: Glad you're okay.

[Hankwoo]

Originally posted by KrazY-2K
Hell I've only taken my car up to 100mph on a deserted straightaway.

Yeah I gun it on those desert Illinois highways since they are mostly a straight cut through the farmland.

[2k1celica]

That's a sad story, shouldn't drink and drive though. Maybe the people that read it won't be so quick to race or drive extremly fast next time. I doubt it though.

[Manny_TXtreme]

Really sad story. Quite senseless...just like that..two lives snuffed. Condolences to the family.

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

i always drive fast when the chance arrices, altho, the fever of speeding has gone down a lil...well BAD speeding..i do7-80 now..unless im racing. before it was max it out all the time..but thats just new car fever.
u gota know when to do it..and know ur roads...130..plus a high enuff bump..in ur gonna be dancin ur car like a holla hoop.

[007CeLiCa]

:(

[Chumpchiggy]

That's unfortunate that he took a friend down by his own stupidity.

[Personafied]

What a freakin idiot. I am sorry but I have no sympathy for stupid ass people like that. Why get a good friend killed over something so stupid.

[The Game]

Originally posted by baNanA_ryCe
omg......i've gone over 100..but to like 102...chickened out....thats scary.... :werd:

[FriedRice]

why try to max out speed on curvy roads?

why not on a straight? doesnt that make more sense?

and a "mitsubishi sedan?"

[Toy Yoda]

The more I grow up, the more I realize the futility of speeding. Sure, you shave off a few minutes from your drive, but the consequences of a mistake/freak accident are so great that they outweigh any (minimal) gains you'd get from flying 100mph. Heck, back when I'd just gotten my license, I'd push my Camry V6 to 170km/h (~100mph) on a small, straight road...
Looking back, I just have to smack myself for being such an arse...

Unfortunately, some people don't get the chance to experience this revelation.
My prayers and condolences go out to all those who have been hit by accidents like this (and their families).

EDIT:
See the first post. It makes mention of a GS-T (Eclipse), while "sedan" makes me think Galant.

[2001SilverGTS]

Damn... so that's what happened. I live just up the street from this ****. That's scary, cuz I've gone like 120 down that road... eek!!!

[F35-JSF]

Don't trust your car that much...... You never know whats going to fail you.

[2001SilverGTS]

Here's what the road looks like. It's a 2 lane in each direction. With large shoulders... He must have been coming down and hit the curve at to high of a speed. The only time I've hit 100 in starting at the intersection where the road becomes straight going south... The red dot, is about where the car accident happened.

[csulbkid]

i agree 100% with the posts about drinking and driving . . . however, people won't ever stop testing out the top speed of their car. it's done for the same reason everyone loves speed. it's the adrenaline rush that comes from the danger of risking your life. the feeling of having death creep up on you and then living to tell about it. unfortunatly, a lot of people (Brian Mullholland included) have fallen victim to that which brings them euphoria. and sadly, this will not stop others.
i send out my condolences to their families. no one has any idea of what they're going through . . .

[bLaH1031]

Man, drinking and testing top speeds is quite dumb. It's sad but jeez not much logical thinking went on that night.

[NeSyOO3]

He probably was exceeding a good 120mph, which is absolutely stupid on a canyon road, where incoming traffic is there. I mean I do 100 mph on the socal freeways and its not that bad. I have gotten to 125mph on the 405 and 5 freeways late at night with stock tires. It takes balls to that kinda stuff, not necessarily stupid, but its the rush - why do u think people skydive? so they can get that rush. its like no other.

[Da Kine Guy]

Oooo, Sabino Canyon. I went swimming in the river up there before. It's kinda cool cause I guess the tree leaves and such make the water turn this amber color. Lotta big boulders to jump and dive off of into really deep water. I remember the place I ended up at had a cool boulder submerged underwater in the middle of the deep pool that actually reached high enough you could sit down and your chest would be out of the water letting you watch the other people jump off. Great place :thumbup:

[2002GT_Celica]

At least he died doing what he loved...

Too bad his friend had to go down with him. I guess his friend was stupid to agree to him topping the car out in the first place.

[Chiznarles]

we are all hypocrites.. we try to see our top speed and we brag about it..

http://newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75763&highlight=top+speed

http://newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74027&highlight=top+speed

I wouldn't be so quick to call the kids stupid.. alot of unforeseen things can go wrong when you go that fast.. it could've happened to any of you..

[DoubleS69]

Originally posted by Chiznarles
we are all hypocrites.. we try to see our top speed and we brag about it..

http://newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75763&highlight=top+speed

http://newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74027&highlight=top+speed

I wouldn't be so quick to call the kids stupid.. alot of unforeseen things can go wrong when you go that fast.. it could've happened to any of you..


He's so right. My condolences go out to the family, as well.

Personally, I've never reached real high top speeds. ONCE I hit 120 on the parkway because I fell behind friends and needed to catch up and one other time at about 2 am, I was going 100 down the parkway .. in heavy fog :-\. Real stupid of me but some guy was seemingly going to throw a bottle at my car for whatever reason and started following me. I eventually had my friends help box him in.

But everytime I start going over 80-85, I start getting scared ****less. Freaks me out ...

[celica gte racing]

What a terrible waste of life. It's true that it's difficult to be sympathetic as they died out of their own stupidity, but they were minors and still too inexperienced to know this...

I personally have a high tolerance for speed. I'm not really scared when I am topping out my car, If I could I would drive my car at the topspeed whenever possible if the conditions allow it - legality, road conditions, traffic conditions and most importantly weather conditions! I would also recommend advanced/perfomance driving courses. Whenever I have the chance to go to germany, its 150mph in 6th gear lift. Drinking and Driving - never, especially on my beloved Celi!

[Celica NZ]

it's not a waste of life if someone learns from it. Keep the speed testing for the track.

[RedNOSceli]

I feel awful for his boy he killed...for him, good riddence....Drunk driving, topping out his sh*tbox, etc, etc.......One more street racer dead, too bad he killed his friend

[JaxCD]

rip

[selika2000]

That's crazy how you found this article..

I work and live down the street from where those 2 boys were killed. The driver went to my high school.

The saddest part is.. the boy driving, graduated from highschool 3 days before they were killed.

Funny thing is I got my speeding ticket for about 80 on that road.. but, they were drinking.. and lost control right before a sharp turn.

Overall.. it's sad.. may they rest in peace.

[Manny_TXtreme]

Originally posted by selika2000
That's crazy how you found this article..

I work and live down the street from where those 2 boys were killed. The driver went to my high school.

The saddest part is.. the boy driving, graduated from highschool 3 days before they were killed.

Funny thing is I got my speeding ticket for about 80 on that road.. but, they were drinking.. and lost control right before a sharp turn.

Overall.. it's sad.. may they rest in peace.

The irony in life.

[alphasubzero949]

Originally posted by NeSyOO3
He probably was exceeding a good 120mph, which is absolutely stupid on a canyon road, where incoming traffic is there. I mean I do 100 mph on the socal freeways and its not that bad. I have gotten to 125mph on the 405 and 5 freeways late at night with stock tires. It takes balls to that kinda stuff, not necessarily stupid, but its the rush - why do u think people skydive? so they can get that rush. its like no other.

Hmmm...that's funny...I thought you were a good boy:

Originally posted by NeSyOO3
Damn, u really need to get a life. I dont even remember the last time i hit even 110mph.


Taken straight from here:
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82469

When I challenged him on his trash-talking and how he thought his 5 spd was faster than anything out there and mentioned his bragging about doing 130 MPH, he had this to say:

Originally posted by NeSyOO3
No, the 130MPH thread doesn't ring a bell, there has been too many threads with stupid lil comments from u in them. And why would i see if a park bench could help me fly; do u see park benches flying?



But what about... http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66148&highlight=130+MPH


You're just another hypocrite. Can we say...

OWN3D???

I initially lost respect for you after your trash-talking about automatics and then your bannings, but this really takes the cake.

[rearendman0]

Ut oh, someone has two screen names. NeSyO03 and NeSyOO3

Thought you could only have one?


NeSyO03 and NeSyOO3 = :liar:

[alphasubzero949]

He was originally banned along with two others, and then attempted to re-register with the name you see above, as well as a whole bunch of other names.

Those 3 were responsible for bringing down the So Cal forum.

[bagodoosh]

wow. i never thought people on the internet eat, shit and die too! amazing. :wtf:

[cool2miketlu]

I am just glad that they did not kill or hurt anyone else.
These two kids gambled with their life, though I do not wish death on anyone but gotta say they were stupid enough to deserve it. The people who does not deserve anything is their parents with the heartache, hope people keep that in mind if they try anything stupid like this again.

[cool2miketlu]

Originally posted by rearendman0
Ut oh, someone has two screen names. NeSyO03 and NeSyOO3

Thought you could only have one?


NeSyO03 and NeSyOO3 = :liar:

There were NeSy003 also... I believe there were NeSy0003 too.
Neways some peps braught up that this newer id may be someone pretending to be him, like that flipnvolvo guy. I would not be suprised if it was, because someone pretended to be tlminh in So Cal Forum so someone can pretend to be NeSyO03.

[nyoneway]

Even tho he did a stupid thing, he didn't deserve to die. Did yet ask for it? Maybe, but him and his family didn't deserve it.

[Da Kine Guy]

Speaking of top speeds, any of you down?

http://www.supraforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124290&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

It's totally legal...but enter at your own risk yeah? Whatever happens to you will be completely on your shoulders. It'll be a blast to watch though! :thumbup:

[CreepingJeff]

dumb kids. :thumbdown

i just hope they never had the opportunity to contribute to the gene pool.

[Griffin]

Hmmm salt lats run eh? Sounds interesting, but I doubt my Alltrac will be ready in time. Plus my car only has cheap-esque V rated tires anyways.

[DavidYan]

This may be a misunderstanding on either my behalf or the writer of the news article, but the article said it was a Mitsubishi sedan and the post said it was a GS-T. My question is isnt the GST a 2 door? If it is i am a little uncertain about this story.

[Jesse IL]

Top speed testing is not the issue here, drinking and driving and/or lack of driving skills is. I've taken my Celica up to 140 at least a dozen times, my old bike to 130 and my new one to 155. On the expressways around Chicago, I have seen more than one incidence of some stupid kid trying to race and almost crashing his car. I saw some riced out Accord nearly crash at 120 mph. This situation will happen with any car that is capable of high speeds, and is especially true with bikes. Put someone who is imapired or just plain is not a good driver/rider in there and crap like this will happen. Just two weeks ago in my town, some stupid kid who was high had some girl on the back of some heavily modded ZX-7 that he had just gotten and crashed the thing at about 100 mph and killed both of them.

[Brett]

I would say its relativily safe to do high speed runs on an empty straight 6 lane highway (kinda like the one near me :D) as long as you have Z rated Tires.

Doing it on a 2 lane canyon road, now thats just asking for something unexpected to happen.

[selika2000]

Originally posted by DavidYan
This may be a misunderstanding on either my behalf or the writer of the news article, but the article said it was a Mitsubishi sedan and the post said it was a GS-T. My question is isnt the GST a 2 door? If it is i am a little uncertain about this story.

I believe he had a GS-T, 2 door of course. Unless he was driving one of his parents cars. My co-worker was a year younger then him, and pretty good friends with the kid. I'll ask her Monday..

[Da Kine Guy]

Originally posted by DavidYan
This may be a misunderstanding on either my behalf or the writer of the news article, but the article said it was a Mitsubishi sedan and the post said it was a GS-T. My question is isnt the GST a 2 door? If it is i am a little uncertain about this story.

Yeah, I was thinkin' Galant VR-4 maybe?

[Chiznarles]

maybe the person who wrote the article just made a mistake.. i'm sure news reporters aren't experts in cars..

[F35-JSF]

Originally posted by Da Kine Guy
Speaking of top speeds, any of you down?

http://www.supraforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124290&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

It's totally legal...but enter at your own risk yeah? Whatever happens to you will be completely on your shoulders. It'll be a blast to watch though! :thumbup:

I would love to but I'm too far away and I already know my top speed set at 110 governed....... :wtc: Dayum regulators and their governors! :mad:

[Da Kine Guy]

Originally posted by Chiznarles
maybe the person who wrote the article just made a mistake.. i'm sure news reporters aren't experts in cars..

Awww, no way. They're experts in EVERYthing! Just look at the guy who wrote for the New York TIMES, Jayson Blair :chuckles:

[alphasubzero949]

Hahaha...I was just thinking of that.