japanese spec engine

[miklo2411]

I Would like to know if a Japanese spec celica engine, would fit directly into an American spec celica. Just thought that I would ask since Im going over there for an year and you never know I might get some extra cash. BTW what is the hp on the Japanese engine for the celica, is it like 230hp.

Thanks

[autxr]

The Japanese spec 2ZZGE is "like" 195 hp and it will bolt right in because it is the same engine.

You will likely save a lot on shipping charges if you buy just the ECU since that appears to be the only difference.

Scott

[gts24]

Originally posted by autxr
The Japanese spec 2ZZGE is "like" 195 hp and it will bolt right in because it is the same engine.

You will likely save a lot on shipping charges if you buy just the ECU since that appears to be the only difference.

Scott

Would be an interesting concept huh? considering the fact that supposedly the only reason the holdup with a lot of aftermarket parts is because of the ECU... Japanese and English conversion and all that stuff.

Can you say import Blitz S/C at the same time....

Might as well bend over and take it up the .....

Our aftermarket isn't developed enough just yet to have an engine shipped over and swapped in like honda jdm stuff

[miklo2411]

Well the shipping will be free. Remember im in the military and I can have it shipped with my house hold goods. So that its a problem. I was just thinking about the aftermarket stuff that I can do with this engine. If it fits directly in then I dont see why I shouldnt get it. I mean then I can get the SC with no problem. So Im just asking do yall think it will be worth it.

[Bling]

You would need higher octane gas.

[autxr]

My point is the "aftermarket" stuff that you do to a JDM 2ZZGE is identical to what you can do to a US 2ZZGE. They are the *same* engine.

It would be more importatnt to get all the electronics (spend the money there).

Scott

[racinjason]

From what most of us heard the Jap spec motors mechanically are identical. Using the Japanese ECu probably means running octane booster all the time. The Octane rating isn't figured the same as the US octane rating. You would need to speak to a expert on that to determine if you can get away with a Sunoco 94 or an octane booster. The Jap spec Celica also pushes out 190PS which is close to 184-185 american HP. So the only way it is gaining in the ECU dept is because of emmisions. If you put this ECU in you won't pass. And you can get twice the power from the ECU by getting a piggyback ECU controller for it instead.

The only thing the Japanese aftermarket really has over us is the Blitz SC. Which I heard is nearly as expensive as the XS turbo kit. So I don't really think your going to find much over there. Maybe some cool Tsport steering wheels and shift knobs.

[Keyshawn]

Originally posted by miklo2411
BTW what is the hp on the Japanese engine for the celica, is it like 230hp.
Thanks

Japanese Celica engine gets 190 ps (or about 184-185 hp, like racinjason said). I wonder why a lot of people quote that 230 hp number? It's totally off.

[Kit99bar]

they're probably thinking of the TRD NA 235hp package.

argh where is it TRD!

Originally posted by Keyshawn


Japanese Celica engine gets 190 ps (or about 184-185 hp, like racinjason said). I wonder why a lot of people quote that 230 hp number? It's totally off.

[analogvoid]

What TRD package gives u that much power ??
Also.. i heard the jdm 2zz-ge has higher compression pistons.

[PorkchopSpecblue GT-S]

The Jap Spec 2zz and the US spec 2zz are the same mechanically is right. One major difference is that everything under the hood is mirrored. The belts run on the drivers side and the tranny I believe is on the passenger side. Thats one of the reasons why the blitz Supercharger doesn't work with the US 2zz engines. Not to mention the gas issue. But Japanese 98 octane gas is equal to about 94-95 US pump gas. Keep that all in mind.

[M SPEC]

If your going to live in Japan for a year. Why not consider bringing back a car as a personal import when you return to the US?

Lots of 2nd hand cars in Japan can be picked up fairly cheaply at auctions etc. Not to familair with US car import laws though for private imports. Bring back something rare, then sell it and make a tidy profit.

to clear a few things up....

Japanese Celica is rated at 190PS (188Hp) and is mechanically 100% same engine as US delivered Celica's.

TRD Tuned 2ZZ-GE was rated at 230HP due to higher compression pistons, diffrerent set of cam profiles etc. (never been released to general public to date)

Japanese have access to 100-115+ RON fuel at any given petrol station.

[autxr]

Originally posted by PorkchopSpecblue GT-S
The Jap Spec 2zz and the US spec 2zz are the same mechanically is right. One major difference is that everything under the hood is mirrored. The belts run on the drivers side and the tranny I believe is on the passenger side. Thats one of the reasons why the blitz Supercharger doesn't work with the US 2zz engines. Not to mention the gas issue. But Japanese 98 octane gas is equal to about 94-95 US pump gas. Keep that all in mind.

Backwards?

I think not.

http://www.toyota.co.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/Celica/menu/frame/mechanism.html

Look at the picture, same layout as ours, not mirror image (think about the logistics of flipping it around).

Scott

[97gpGT]

100-115+ RON is about equal to our mid 90's RON/MON (or MON/RON, i forget which) so the octane of the gas isn't very different. Japanese gas is much cleaner though, not as much sulfur in it, which is why they can do things like direct injection that we can't.

[analogvoid]

here in fl we have 93 octane gas, i've heard that in some other states they have 92 as premium. not sure if this is true. would 93 octane cut it for that trd tunned 2zz ? just wondering

[PorkchopSpecblue GT-S]

autxr yeah I guess your right. I know one of the accesories within the drive belt is in a different spot. Thats according to the Representative at Blitz USA.

[GTS-Racer]

Originally posted by Keyshawn


I wonder why a lot of people quote that 230 hp number? It's totally off.

probably thinking of the jdm gt4 all track engine

[pdawg]

just get the trd high compression pistons. it'll be close enough to the jdm eng, but everyone that mentioned the fuel issue in this forum is correct. need much higher octane. and remember, if you change to those pistions, you can forget about getting any type of forced induction in the future.

[Auto[BoT]_GTS]

what about the power fc I heard they run those in jdm celicas

[t2000gts]

Originally posted by Auto[BoT]_GTS
what about the power fc I heard they run those in jdm celicas

should run on USDM cars too, but nobody's tried it on a GTS yet.

[Jesse IL]

Originally posted by t2000gts


should run on USDM cars too, but nobody's tried it on a GTS yet.

You would need a Power Excel shop to install it who is experienced with the Japanese software.

XS Engineering or Carboy

[yakkosmurf]

Originally posted by analogvoid
here in fl we have 93 octane gas, i've heard that in some other states they have 92 as premium. not sure if this is true. would 93 octane cut it for that trd tunned 2zz ? just wondering
It depends on where you live. In Houston, TX, you can get 93 octane anywhere. In Lubbock, TX, the best you can usually find is 90.

[BRAK]

I think 93 would do for a tunned engine .... but no lower than that!

[Griffin]

Some places in the northeast have 94 - Seen it at Sunoco stations in Rhode Island.

Griffin

[Chui]

Japan uses 98 octane [maybe 100 octane] not "110 to 115 Octane fuel and in no way does 110 to 115 octane equate to anything sold in the US thru a regular gas station...

[Griffin]

Originally posted by Chui
Japan uses 98 octane [maybe 100 octane] not "110 to 115 Octane fuel and in no way does 110 to 115 octane equate to anything sold in the US thru a regular gas station...

Yup. Not unless its at an airport maybe. 103 was low octane from the airport... not TOO terribly expensive either, like 3 bucks a gallon and they drove the tanker right up to my pickup and filled my 30 gallon rollaround up for me. Mighty nice of em.

Griffin