Celica GTS vs RSX-S which one?

[Daemos]

Alright having REAL bad experiences with all the nissan dealerships in my city, I'm ready to sell my 03 Spec V and get into a diffrent car. And I don't owe anything on the car. I'm in canada.

my 2nd choices were between an RSX-S and a GTS.

This is not a thread about bad finicial decisions, and right now I'm okay with this sacrafice, I will rethink it before I decide to sell the car once or twice again, but right now I want other info. But Other opinions are still accepted.

If you were in my position what would you do? I could keep the spec, and bite the bullet and deal with the crappy customer service, buy a new 02 or 03 RSX-S or a 03 Celica GTS.

Now obviously the cheapest thing would be for me to keep the spec, then the RSX-S has a slight price advantage over a GTS (in my city anyways)

But can anyone list the advantages/disadvantages to all my situations? I'm not too familiar with the GTS or the RSX-S, I want to just use this as a daily commute, and do some minor mods, then buy a summer project car later. I need a car that's good in winter, has some luxury (leather is a must now...if I buy another car) How bout the GTS does it still have that 7800 rpm fuelcut off, or have they changed it back to the 8350 rpm fuel cutoff?

Thanks in advance for your help guys.

[n2oxide]

RSX-S. Performance wise, it's pretty much the same. The RSX having a slighter advantage because of the bigger aftermarket (ie Hondata). Also, I whole-heartedly prefer the interior of the RSX over the Celica. Remember, Acura is the luxury based manufacturer. Dependability... I would say both are about even. Price... in my area the RSX is a bit more expensive (that's why I got the Celica). You've got it good w/ it being cheaper over there... if you're gonna choose - GET THE RSX-S. :headbang:

[rogergts]

Both cars are very similar actually so it's really the littlle things that can lead you to a decision. Since u say that ur not really into modding the next car u get, I say get the GTS, looks better and has good aftermarket. If you were to really want to modify a car, then get the RSX-S. There is so much out right now for it and more to come. And yes, the 03' celica GTS has the 8350 rev limiter again. Oh well, just my .02. Hope this helps.

BTW, I would keep the spec V but if the dealerships are giving u crap, then go ahead and sell it.

[vvtlikick]

'03 GT-S has the higher fuel cut.

I don't think the RSX-S has a price advantage if you get a good deal (I believe the Celica has an inflated MSRP). Just make sure to research the vehicles prices before you shop.

I'd get the GT-S, because I'd want it's superior handling and braking. Styling on the '03 could be the only thing to dissuade me. Unfortunately, both the GT-S and the RSX-S are missing a LSD, while the Spec V has one (even in Canada?).

But if you want power mods, the Type S is beginning to beat the GT-S, and I think the Type S will continue to beat the GT-S. The GT-S's 2ZZGE is rumored to be in the Lotus Elise next year, so a flood of mods may come afterwards.

Also, the GT-S will require winter tires to supplement it's stock summer tires.

[Daemos]

I've driven all 3 cars...but

yes the Spec V has the HLSD, it has the TONS of low end torque (something that I'll miss for day to day driving), but not too much top end, and I also believe at the limits it is the most unstable car to control, but it's limits are also higher than both cars. It also has a larger engine, larger tires, nicer sound system, and side impact airbags, and does REALLY REALLY well in bad crashes.

However, the luxury of the RSX-S and the GTS (w/the 8350 rpm fuel cutoff) are above that of the Spec, and the build quality and ride are MUCH better, as is the top end, 1/4 mile speeds are also should be just a tad faster, but after the 1/4 mile should kill the spec easily. oh yea the aftermarket for both cars are also MUCH larger than that of the Spec.

The dealerships in my area for nissan arn't too great with service, they all try to rip me off, there's only one I haven't been to..but that's slightly outside my city bout a 30 min drive, if I do keep the spec, I'll try going there.

But yea, I do like the interior of the RSX-S, and the price, and the aftermarket more than the Celica...but I love the exterior of the Celica and handling of it over the RSX-S...

[Da Kine Guy]

search please

[The Game]

Get a Prelude

[silntcreeper]

The GT-S's 2ZZGE is rumored to be in the Lotus Elise next year, so a flood of mods may come afterwards.



is that true?

[LaW]

yup that is one rumor, anything is possible though there are a couple engines rumored and the 2zz IS one of them


as for which car.... out of the two i would get the rsx-s

[KrazY-2K]

You can't go wrong with either RSX-S or Celica GT-S. I like to think of the Type-S as a luxurious GT-S with a better aftermarket. Exterior wise, I think the Celica looks 4 times better, and has better body kits than the Type-S. It also outbreaks and outhandles the Type-S (although not by too much). I give the Interior to the Type-S, although I'm more partial to the sportier cockpit of the GT-S. Overall, if you're just going for basic mods I'd go with the GT-S. If you're really into insane modding though the Type-S has a bigger aftermarket, although the GT-S will have a few forced induction options soon enough. Like I said, you can't really go wrong with either car :thumbup:

[cftofu2k]

just wondering. does the rsx come with hid's as an option like the 03 celicas?

[n2oxide]

i think the thing that pisses me off about my car is the "decieving" looks. yeah, the celica beats the RSX in exterior looks (it looks faster) and has a "sportier" cockpit... how sporty would you feel in that cockpit knowing that you're slow.

I think the Celica is a badass show car.. but if you want something luxurious/kinda quick for daily dribing, you gotta roll w/ the RSX-S.

[dchan8]

who really thinks that the rs-x interior looks better? i think it looks alright. more attractive than american cars, but not as nice as the celica cockpit. the vents in the rs-x look like they were slapped in place, and ther stereo looks like any other set up, while the celica looks more ergonomic and smooth. at least that what i think.

[larryd]

I think when it comes to handling, power, and braking the GTS and RSX-S are going to be very very close which means its basically up to looks and functionality :)

I like the exterior of the Celica better once a few things are done to it like lowering springs. Stock for stock I actually like the appearance of the RSX better.

I like the interior of the RSX better. Maybe im getting old but I think the RSX just looks a little more luxurious and as if it is put together better then the Celica. I loved the cockpit type feel of the Celica when I had one but I think the RSX is more practical and functional inside.

So my vote goes to the Type S which may possibly be my next car as well :)

[RevHappyGTS]

Here is my break down, Stock for Stock Comparison

Acceleration:
GT-S vs. RSX-S = Driver's Race Although for 2003 the GT-S does pack a few extra goodies, Drive By Wire Throttle, and smoother Transmission, the Advantage might be slightly GT-S now, who knows.

Handling Wise:
GT-S is a lot more tossable and handles better than the RSX-S, due to better tires, Better Steering, less weight. I'm sure you can equip the RSX-S with better tires but how are you gonna lose the 300lbs it has over the GT-S?

Braking:
Well, need I say more, the GT-S will outbrake the RSX-S any day of the week, step on the Whoa pedal in a GT-S and it matches the Brembo equipped WRX STi in stopping distance.

Interior:
This comes down to Taste, for 2003 GT-S interior is now changed to Dark Grey almost black with Gunmetal Accents. Looks 10X better than before, I personally love the interior of the GT-S, down the the Digital LCD Readout. You sit low in a GT-S, with a big front windshield raked back like the NSX, sports car feeling. In the RSX-S you sit high up, with a flat dash that goes across, just like sitting in a Civic Coupe. The Bose system in the RSX-S is CRAP, the 03' JBL system in my GT-S blows it outta the water. I took my Girlfirend to check out the RSX-S and after sitting in it she said what's up with the Playschool HVAC Controls?? Sittin in the RSX-S did not induce driving passion for me, sit inside the RSX-S, make note of the dash design and layout, then go down to Honda and sit in a Civic Coupe, look familiar? The silver gauges in the RSX are pretty cool though I give it that.

Exterior:
Again, this comes down to Taste, but majority will tell you the GT-S is a lot more eye catching, and sporty. I can't stress enough, Chicks love the Celica, I can't tell you how many compliments I got!!!! For 2003 GT-S has HID available. The RSX-S always reminded me of a Toyota Paseo for some reason. With a kit and rims the RSX-S will look pretty nice, but nothing can fix that "economy sedan high" roofline.

Price:
GT-S is more expensive than RSX-S when similar equipped, you can spend upwards of 27K for a fully loaded GT-S so try to get the only the options you absolutely need. RSX-S is fully loaded for like a bargain price ~24K.

Mod Potential:
RSX-S = Honda = Unlimited Aftermarket, The RSX-S will always be potentially faster because of their huge aftermarket, with the Celica GT-S, I/H/E+ Pulleys and you're pretty much done. Although it's still good for low 14s MAYBE high 13s with slicks in the right hands granted conditions are perfect, thats just scratching the surface for the RSX-S. Anyways, If you are just interested in going straight, I wouldn't choose the GT-S or the RSX-S.

Problems: Both the RSX-S and GT-S have their share of rattles, but I heard horror stories over at ClubRSX that their 03's are rattling too!!! My 2003 GT-S has close to 12K miles and NOT one single rattle, solid as day one. The Transmission in the RSX-S will grind or have notchiness in 2nd, no matter what year it is, 02 or 03. Its something Acura will try and fix but most owners claim it comes back and it's a pain in the ass. My GT-S Tranny is like Butter, just like new =). Warranty repair, for 2003 The GT-S has a misshift lockout or so I heard, Haven't tried and not willing to. The 03 RSX-S will allow you to misshift still, if you do, ACURA WILL NOT fix it under warranty, I heard if you did it in a Celica 01-02 GT-S Toyota fixes it for you.

It all comes down to you, the decision maker. You will have to make the decision, I was in your shoes 6 months ago, I went to drive both, and guess whats parked in my garage? :)

Edit: See that white civic coupe in the background of my sig, thats my sister's old 03 Civic Coupe,(traded it in for a GS300) Yah the RSX-S gave me the same feeling when I drive it, thats why you see me refer to it a lot. I couldnt' bare driving a 24K dollar *sports coupe* that reminded me so much of my sister's 15K gas saving commuter.

[mickey513]

Test drive both before you decide, both are good cars. Interms of performance, both are about equal. The RSX has a little more torque and hp.

If you want something that is more refine, more luxury, better daily ride, then go with with the RSX-S. The leather interior of the RSX-S is better then Celicas and more comfortable. The Celica is more "sporty" but horrible if you plan on using it on long commute. Plus the rear seats on the Celica are totally unacceptable. It so small that you cannot seat 4-people decently. It's not a bad car but just don't buy it you plan on driving people around or the type that don't like small interiors.

Both of course the final decesion is up to you. Test drive both and weight the options and then decide.

[FriedRice]

Originally posted by RevHappyGTS
Here is my break down, Stock for Stock Comparison

Acceleration:
GT-S vs. RSX-S = Driver's Race Although for 2003 the GT-S does pack a few extra goodies, Drive By Wire Throttle, and smoother Transmission, the Advantage might be slightly GT-S now, who knows.

Handling Wise:
GT-S is a lot more tossable and handles better than the RSX-S, due to better tires, Better Steering, less weight. I'm sure you can equip the RSX-S with better tires but how are you gonna lose the 300lbs it has over the GT-S?

Braking:
Well, need I say more, the GT-S will outbrake the RSX-S any day of the week, step on the Whoa pedal in a GT-S and it matches the Brembo equipped WRX STi in stopping distance.

Interior:
This comes down to Taste, for 2003 GT-S interior is now changed to Dark Grey almost black with Gunmetal Accents. Looks 10X better than before, I personally love the interior of the GT-S, down the the Digital LCD Readout. You sit low in a GT-S, with a big front windshield raked back like the NSX, sports car feeling. In the RSX-S you sit high up, with a flat dash that goes across, just like sitting in a Civic Coupe. The Bose system in the RSX-S is CRAP, the 03' JBL system in my GT-S blows it outta the water. I took my Girlfirend to check out the RSX-S and after sitting in it she said what's up with the Playschool HVAC Controls?? Sittin in the RSX-S did not induce driving passion for me, sit inside the RSX-S, make note of the dash design and layout, then go down to Honda and sit in a Civic Coupe, look familiar? The silver gauges in the RSX are pretty cool though I give it that.

Exterior:
Again, this comes down to Taste, but majority will tell you the GT-S is a lot more eye catching, and sporty. I can't stress enough, Chicks love the Celica, I can't tell you how many compliments I got!!!! For 2003 GT-S has HID available. The RSX-S always reminded me of a Toyota Paseo for some reason. With a kit and rims the RSX-S will look pretty nice, but nothing can fix that "economy sedan high" roofline.

Price:
GT-S is more expensive than RSX-S when similar equipped, you can spend upwards of 27K for a fully loaded GT-S so try to get the only the options you absolutely need. RSX-S is fully loaded for like a bargain price ~24K.

Mod Potential:
RSX-S = Honda = Unlimited Aftermarket, The RSX-S will always be potentially faster because of their huge aftermarket, with the Celica GT-S, I/H/E+ Pulleys and you're pretty much done. Although it's still good for low 14s MAYBE high 13s with slicks in the right hands granted conditions are perfect, thats just scratching the surface for the RSX-S. Anyways, If you are just interested in going straight, I wouldn't choose the GT-S or the RSX-S.

Problems: Both the RSX-S and GT-S have their share of rattles, but I heard horror stories over at ClubRSX that their 03's are rattling too!!! My 2003 GT-S has close to 12K miles and NOT one single rattle, solid as day one. The Transmission in the RSX-S will grind or have notchiness in 2nd, no matter what year it is, 02 or 03. Its something Acura will try and fix but most owners claim it comes back and it's a pain in the ass. My GT-S Tranny is like Butter, just like new =). Warranty repair, for 2003 The GT-S has a misshift lockout or so I heard, Haven't tried and not willing to. The 03 RSX-S will allow you to misshift still, if you do, ACURA WILL NOT fix it under warranty, I heard if you did it in a Celica 01-02 GT-S Toyota fixes it for you.

It all comes down to you, the decision maker. You will have to make the decision, I was in your shoes 6 months ago, I went to drive both, and guess whats parked in my garage? :)

Edit: See that white civic coupe in the background of my sig, thats my sister's old 03 Civic Coupe,(traded it in for a GS300) Yah the RSX-S gave me the same feeling when I drive it, thats why you see me refer to it a lot. I couldnt' bare driving a 24K dollar *sports coupe* that reminded me so much of my sister's 15K gas saving commuter.

sorry for taking up so much space quoting, but these are very valid points. keep in mind that he's coming from a modded to hell GS-R. if he's willing to switch over that's gotta be saying something.

my dad test drove the rsx-s and says the celica feels more luxurous. (softer seats, better angling) go figure. (i have a GT without leather anything...)

[SeraphimX]

Celica has a nicer interior, my RSX-S friend sat in it and says it sits lower too, I think the RSX is just a sporty civic, whereas the celica looks like a race car, class wise and by class I mean maturity, I think the RSX looks more classy and mature and the boyish good looks of the celica, so its up to you!

[HilfigerCelica]

Originally posted by mickey513
Test drive both before you decide, both are good cars. Interms of performance, both are about equal. The RSX has a little more torque and hp.

If you want something that is more refine, more luxury, better daily ride, then go with with the RSX-S. The leather interior of the RSX-S is better then Celicas and more comfortable. The Celica is more "sporty" but horrible if you plan on using it on long commute. Plus the rear seats on the Celica are totally unacceptable. It so small that you cannot seat 4-people decently. It's not a bad car but just don't buy it you plan on driving people around or the type that don't like small interiors.

Both of course the final decesion is up to you. Test drive both and weight the options and then decide.

Although the RSX-S has more torque and hp ,but it does weigh more so there's a not difference. I believe the Celica is a little more tossable since it's lighter. It's weight is also reflected in it's great stopping power and handling.

If you want a back seat both cars are wrong for you. Get a Camry. The RSX and Celica are pretty much two seaters.

RevHappyGTS pretty much sums up what I have to say about both cars.

[Jandree22]

RSX-S... no question

[insunan]

Here's something else to keep in mind:

I've never had to deal with any Acura dealerships, but Toyota customer service isn't exactly fabulous. If you go the GT-S route, you might end up with customer service from Toyota dealerships that's just as bad as Nissan.

Who has experience with Acura dealerships?

[n2oxide]

Originally posted by RevHappyGTS
The 03 RSX-S will allow you to misshift still, if you do, ACURA WILL NOT fix it under warranty, I heard if you did it in a Celica 01-02 GT-S Toyota fixes it for you.


this varies by dealership doesn't it? just like the friendliness of the service. you can't say every single Acura dealership will turn away a miss-shift.

[WillyK]

RSX Type S all the way.

[Mistrimeat]

Like I always say, RSX.

[F35-JSF]

Rsx :ugh: Celica
The question continues............

[KrazY-2K]

Stock for stock I like the Celica's exterior better. Internet pictures just don't do the stock look on the Celicas justice, since they look 10x better in person. Also don't forget that the Celica's aftermarket is still slowly improving. It's not as big as the Type-S's, but we've got enough parts to go around. Also if it holds true that the new Elise will have the 2zz in it, aftermarket will probly only get better from there.

[pepsiman]

For daily driving- RSX-S

[Daemos]

all I really want to do is to do intake, exhaust, headers and suspension...I don't need a fast car in a straight line, decent, but I like cars that can handle well more.

This will NOT be a project car, so it'll just be a daily driver, then in a few years a winter car.

Can the Celica GTS hold 15" Rims? Because I want to keep the steelies + winter tires from my spec V and use them on my next car and not have to buy another set.

Can someone tell me why some say RSX and some say Celica?

Yea I like the looks of the Celica much better, and the way it sits.

[Jandree22]

Originally posted by Daemos
Can someone tell me why some say RSX and some say Celica?


They're so close in many aspects that it's pretty much just personal preference. It's pretty hard to go wrong with either. Just test drive both and experience them for yourself.

[Daemos]

Originally posted by Jandree22


They're so close in many aspects that it's pretty much just personal preference. It's pretty hard to go wrong with either. Just test drive both and experience them for yourself.

I have >< and I like them both >< which is why I'm asking...but I guess I'll need another test drive...since last time I Test drove them was last year when I loved my spec V more than the two other ones...just the service from my dealerships SUCK...enough for me to sell the car.

[Silverleaf]

As long as the bolt pattern for the spec V is the same as the Celica GTS' you should be ok with a wheel swap.

It comes down to a matter of taste when deciding between the RSX-S and the GTS.

You really should test drive them both and see which you like better.

When I was purchasing my car, I drove both the RSX and the GTS. They are about the same, but for me the choice came down to interior layout (as I spend more time on the inside of the car than the outside) and the handling of the car. You can't really go wrong with either.

[futureceli]

get the rsx-s-->better aftermarket support.....stock for stock u cant go wrong.....oh yea, i own a GTS

[APEXiTypes]

Originally posted by Daemos
all I really want to do is to do intake, exhaust, headers and suspension...I don't need a fast car in a straight line, decent, but I like cars that can handle well more.

This will NOT be a project car, so it'll just be a daily driver, then in a few years a winter car.

Can the Celica GTS hold 15" Rims? Because I want to keep the steelies + winter tires from my spec V and use them on my next car and not have to buy another set.

Can someone tell me why some say RSX and some say Celica?

Yea I like the looks of the Celica much better, and the way it sits.

Heres something to think about.....For 800 bucks you can have yourself a type s that will beat 99.9% on gt-s's on the road.....As for suspension, I have the progress springs and sways on my car and I got everything for 400 bucks;) I can already out handle MOST celicas and with the help of a LSD Ill be able to out handle 99.99999% of gt-s's. So for a grand total of 1200, plus some time, you can have a type s that is better than a gt-s in almost every way.

Looks is up to you......I agree that the celica "looks" faster, but I AM faster:D

Who ever thinks the rsx doesn't have a sporty interior needs to take another look.....Recaro seats don't scream this is a sports car? Granted there rapped in leather:(

Oh yea, I can rev 300rpms more than a celica too:fawk:

[RevHappyGTS]

Originally posted by APEXiTypes


Heres something to think about.....For 800 bucks you can have yourself a type s that will beat 99.9% on gt-s's on the road.....


As for suspension, I have the progress springs and sways on my car and I got everything for 400 bucks;) I can already out handle MOST celicas and with the help of a LSD Ill be able to out handle 99.99999% of gt-s's. So for a grand total of 1200, plus some time, you can have a type s that is better than a gt-s in almost every way.


Oh yea, I can rev 300rpms more than a celica too:fawk:

Thats Great, I'm sure the RSX-S has the advantage in the straighline because of your guys aftermarket support and easier to drive I'll give you that. But 800 bucks worth of CAI+Hondata doesn't neccesarily give you a 14.0-14.1 RSX-S. It looks like the norm is around 14.4-14.6 on stock tires. To get low low 14s they are running on Falken Azenis on lower pressure, which umm adds to your mod bill, try more like 1200 of total mods. Our stock tires are pretty sticky from the factory, with 1200 bucks we can get Trial Header 700, Injen CAI 200, TRD Kazuma 300. I'm sure we'll be right there with you.:wave:


You're saying a "slightly modded" RSX-S will outhandle 99.999 percent of All GT-S's, sombody didn't have enough caffeine this morning? Do you think 99.999 percent of GT-S owners leave our stock suspension alone? News flash we're not.

Stock vs Stock we will skool you guys in handling just accept it, modified vs modified, we'll skool you even harder. Slap on a Hotchkis TVS system and we'll pull 1.04gs and turn 75+MPH through the slalom, all with a full interior and stock engine, screw just the RSX-S, we WILL out handle 99.99999% of ALL CARS on the road. Slap on an LSD on top of that and I would be scared to think what the GT-S is capable of. Don't get started on the braking department either, with a simple AEM big brake kit, yes NO FANCY 4 piston calipers here, just bigger rotors, we'll do 60-0 in 96ft. We will outbrake 99.999 percent of ALL CARS. (oh btw, the Hotchkis Celica shattered SCC's handling records, as if you already didn't know that.)

I'm sure the RSX-S can turn in .1-.2 or so quicker in the 1/4 mile w/ the same amount $$ investing in straight line mods, thats not enough to make the RSX-S better in EVERY way, it looks like thats what you base your argument on. If I wanted a 1/4 mile car, I would have bought a WRX or Mustang GT and with 800 bucks I will smoke 99.9999% of RSX-S's. If you look at the big picture, the GT-S is OVERALL more of a pure performance car. I think the RSX-S is more suited to a wider auidience because of it's more softy interior, cushy ride, and overall bland exterior.

[HilfigerCelica]

Preach on Rev.

[KrazY-2K]

:werd:

Don't get me wrong, the type-s is a great car. Mod for mod suspension wise though, the Celica will probly always be better than the type-s, even though you guys have the straight-line advantage with hondata. Also, you can't forget there's still parts out there for the GT-S that NO ONE has tried (C-One/Kaaz gears which probly will shave at least .5 seconds off our 1/4 mile, Inging cams, etc) despite them being quite expensive. But eh, you get what you pay for. People also whine about the Celica being too slow, get a grip. It wasn't built for the 1/4 mile, but instead for road courses and autocrossing, where the Celica is NOT slow. The Hotchkis celica pretty much eats Z06's for breakfast.

[RevHappyGTS]

Originally posted by KrazY-2K
:werd:

The Hotchkis celica pretty much eats Z06's for breakfast.

Don't forget it likes exotic foods too...:chuckles:

Hotchkis Toyota Celica shatters previous Sport Compact Car 600 ft.
slalom record by two miles per hour - new record 75.2 MPH

2001 Porsche Turbo - 68.6 MPH*
2000 Ferrari 360 - 69.0 MPH*
* As tested by Motor Trend

[APEXiTypes]

Originally posted by RevHappyGTS


Thats Great, I'm sure the RSX-S has the advantage in the straighline because of your guys aftermarket support and easier to drive I'll give you that. But 800 bucks worth of CAI+Hondata doesn't neccesarily give you a 14.0-14.1 RSX-S. It looks like the norm is around 14.4-14.6 on stock tires. To get low low 14s they are running on Falken Azenis on lower pressure, which umm adds to your mod bill, try more like 1200 of total mods. Our stock tires are pretty sticky from the factory, with 1200 bucks we can get Trial Header 700, Injen CAI 200, TRD Kazuma 300. I'm sure we'll be right there with you.:wave:


You're saying a "slightly modded" RSX-S will outhandle 99.999 percent of All GT-S's, sombody didn't have enough caffeine this morning? Do you think 99.999 percent of GT-S owners leave our stock suspension alone? News flash we're not.

Stock vs Stock we will skool you guys in handling just accept it, modified vs modified, we'll skool you even harder. Slap on a Hotchkis TVS system and we'll pull 1.04gs and turn 75+MPH through the slalom, all with a full interior and stock engine, screw just the RSX-S, we WILL out handle 99.99999% of ALL CARS on the road. Slap on an LSD on top of that and I would be scared to think what the GT-S is capable of. Don't get started on the braking department either, with a simple AEM big brake kit, yes NO FANCY 4 piston calipers here, just bigger rotors, we'll do 60-0 in 96ft. We will outbrake 99.999 percent of ALL CARS. (oh btw, the Hotchkis Celica shattered SCC's handling records, as if you already didn't know that.)

I'm sure the RSX-S can turn in .1-.2 or so quicker in the 1/4 mile w/ the same amount $$ investing in straight line mods, thats not enough to make the RSX-S better in EVERY way, it looks like thats what you base your argument on. If I wanted a 1/4 mile car, I would have bought a WRX or Mustang GT and with 800 bucks I will smoke 99.9999% of RSX-S's. If you look at the big picture, the GT-S is OVERALL more of a pure performance car. I think the RSX-S is more suited to a wider auidience because of it's more softy interior, cushy ride, and overall bland exterior.

It's a good thing you know so much about the rsx.....Thanks for the Info......I would LOVE to see a celica with 800 in mods (No tires are NOT needed to run low 14's) keep up with me on the straits. There is maybe a handful of celica's running low 14's, and no the norm is not 14.4-14.6...People are running those times there first time at the track.

Did I mention 90% peek tq from 2000 to 8000rpm.....That offically makes the rsx a much easier car to drive for daily driving. IMO more fun too.......No more VTEC dip, no more waiting for the 6000rpms to start moving, did I mention 8600rpm rev limiter?

As for handling, the celica does indeed handle very well, but lets not forget about what tires it comes with stock, compared to the rsx. Thats funny, the rsx stock is right behind the celica stock, yet it has the worst tires in the world for performance. I have read the SCC article on the Hotchkis celica, very impressive......The Progress rsx holds the number two spot with 1g on the skid pad and 73.4 threw the slalom.

Did I mention braking, NO You can't beat a car that weighs 2500lbs with good brakes.....

Lets not make this a flame war no....The guy is asking what car is better, and frankly, they are both great car, but from what I have seeing you can make the rsx better for less, all around.

[KrazY-2K]

Although I agree the Celica's parts are a bit more expensive, there's no doubt that it has more corner-carving potential than the Type-S even if it isn't as cheap. As for the straights, well you guys have the advantage (for much cheaper anyways... :evil: ) :)

[All_MTR_GTS]

both cars are bomb, case closed!!

[TW00Si]

You are telling me a modded RSX will handle better than a stock GT-S? Wow...what a concept. FYI, just because suspension mods are thrown on it doesn't mean it will handle better. You can seriously upset the car's handling if done wrong. And no, just because you are modded doesn't mean you can out handle a stock celica. Trust me on that. At the autoxes I've been to, there's modded RSX-S with JIC Magic FLT-A2 coils, sway bars, azenis tires and tie bars, strut bars...you can go on and on...you know what, I still run a faster time. My celica is STOCK!!!

When it comes to handling, it's up to the driver to tap out all the potential of the car's suspension. Just because you have it doesn't mean anything.

For a daily driver, I'd opt for the RSX too because it's more spacious and seems more refined. But for a car that you buying to mod and race with and also be a daily driver, get the celica.

This discussion is getting old. And I realize a lot of people just care about the straightline performance and the mods you throw on and then compare it to a stock celica. Learn how to compare please.

[KrazY-2K]

Originally posted by TW00Si

This discussion is getting old. And I realize a lot of people just care about the straightline performance and the mods you throw on and then compare it to a stock celica. Learn how to compare please.

:werd:

There's a lot more to a performance car than going in a straight line. Most of the people who whine that the Celica is too slow usually just race in a straight line. Instead of whining, go out to a curvy deserted road and learn to appreciate how well the car handles.

[PoweredbyRICE]

i like apexi's rsx:) hondata:drool: lol god damn almost at s2k range for revvin..scary hehe

[APEXiTypes]

Originally posted by TW00Si
You are telling me a modded RSX will handle better than a stock GT-S? Wow...what a concept. FYI, just because suspension mods are thrown on it doesn't mean it will handle better. You can seriously upset the car's handling if done wrong. And no, just because you are modded doesn't mean you can out handle a stock celica. Trust me on that. At the autoxes I've been to, there's modded RSX-S with JIC Magic FLT-A2 coils, sway bars, azenis tires and tie bars, strut bars...you can go on and on...you know what, I still run a faster time. My celica is STOCK!!!

When it comes to handling, it's up to the driver to tap out all the potential of the car's suspension. Just because you have it doesn't mean anything.

For a daily driver, I'd opt for the RSX too because it's more spacious and seems more refined. But for a car that you buying to mod and race with and also be a daily driver, get the celica.

This discussion is getting old. And I realize a lot of people just care about the straightline performance and the mods you throw on and then compare it to a stock celica. Learn how to compare please.

You know what, as soon as I posted my last post I was thinking not too many people can drive well enough to reach the cars full potential. I never said just because you have this and this you will be faster, in any kind of racing the driver plays the biggest roll.

Anyway, it's clear where I stand. The rsx is a better car to play with if it's going to be your daily driver with some track time here and there. Now if it was race only, I would take the celica becuase of the lighter weight and the potential I know it has. Too bad for you guys the aftermarket companies don't see a big profit from celica owners.

[APEXiTypes]

Originally posted by PoweredbyRICE
i like apexi's rsx:) hondata:drool: lol god damn almost at s2k range for revvin..scary hehe

Thank you:thumbup: Like my sig? I need to get one at the top of 4th...It will be some where around 123mph at 8600rpm:chuckles:

[larryd]

Hey APEXiTypes, Im just curious but what did you have done to your Type S to run the 14.183 @ 97.27 and can you show me the full slip??

Im actually looking into a Type S as my next car in the coming months but Id like more info.

Whats the fastest n/a time so far for the S?

[APEXiTypes]

Intake/exhaust (crush bent)/Hondata #4

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p8d6bd399258f87938a847c70f545efdd/fc487ca4.jpg


It is kind of hard to see, so ill write it too.

60ft - 2.190
330 - 6.009
1/8 - 9.155
mph - 78.82
1000 - 11.867
1/4 - 14.183
mph - 97.27

I should mention that this was done on a hot humid night here in south florida....Reason why my trap speed is so slow. I should also mention this was not done on stock tires but the tires I was using were not much better.

Heres the 1/4 mile list for clubrsx. Fastest n/a time being 13.1@105 with bolt ons and type r cams:D

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47794

Also check the racing forum, I just beat my buddy in his s2000.......Twice:D

Hope you like what you see...You will LOVE the rsx.

[bLaH1031]

13.1?! Jesus Christ..

Damn Celica :mad:

[Tikked Again]

LarryD...do not go Honda!!! I mean how many ships can you jump? :gap:

-Come back to Toyota-
You know you want an MR2 Spyder. Just think...you could throw a 2zz in and it will be just like old times. Well, except for the engine in the rear, rear wheel drive, weighing only 2200 pounds, and did I meantion RWD :). By the way...are you mobile yet?

As for the GTS vs. RSX
Based on the discussion so far, if the price was fair, I would purchase the RSX as a daily driver.

[larryd]

I can jump as many ships as I want, Im just testing the waters of all the different companies :)

Id go back to another Celica but I know Id kick myself in the butt because of all the problems I had with the car back in the day. Id love to get the MR2 and turbo it but thats just more work that I dont want to get invovled with.

I really want to get an n/a car that I can put i/e on and run low 14s and be happy. I actually want to build another show car as I believe thats when I was the happiest in my life :)

BTW.. Im not doin too bad.. Im on crutches and will be walkin hopefully in the next couple months.

[freshNcLean]

what kind of answer do u expect? ur asking a celica site?

as an ex-celica owner (2000 GT), id have to say that the RSX is much better car all around...i have one now and as far as overall quality goes...the rsx wins hands down. its a much classier car and its not as high strung as the celi

i still like the front of the celica more, but the rear of the rsx looks better...and if u ask me...the rsx looks better all around...but thats all subjective.

get the rsx -- it rocks~

[freshNcLean]

Originally posted by insunan
Here's something else to keep in mind:

I've never had to deal with any Acura dealerships, but Toyota customer service isn't exactly fabulous. If you go the GT-S route, you might end up with customer service from Toyota dealerships that's just as bad as Nissan.

Who has experience with Acura dealerships?

one of the main reasons why i got rid of my celica was cuz the cs from toyota sux...

i think acura has better cs

[sO mAnY mOdS]

i think the celica has more comfortable seats

id probably pick a type S over it if all things were even, but there were no RSX type S's in 2000 so i got a GT-S

lol sorry for diggin up an oldie

[ICU2COP]

Originally posted by dchan8
who really thinks that the rs-x interior looks better? i think it looks alright. more attractive than american cars, but not as nice as the celica ****pit. the vents in the rs-x look like they were slapped in place, and ther stereo looks like any other set up, while the celica looks more ergonomic and smooth. at least that what i think.

the celica interior doesnt compare to the rsx-s assuming you get the black interior. Tan looks like **** IMHO.

i've had both cars, driven a gts 6 speed and my friend has driven my car as well. The type s with aem cai is louder in ivtech then a celica in lift.

Ppl say that the rsx has ****ty suspension but i've taken it into corners i used to take my celica and had the same positive results as the celica did.

As far as aftermarket, Honda is the only way to go.

Braking I think is also better in the rsx-s. stops quicker and smoother I think.

Keep in mind i've driven both as well. The outside looks better on the celica, but not much else on the car is better.

my .02

[ICU2COP]

Originally posted by sO mAnY mOdS
i think the celica has more comfortable seats



rsx-s seats > celica

they keep ur ass from sweating unlike the celicas seats
PM TRD GT-S and ask him which seats he likes better.

[Zensoku]

I like the braking and handling on the celica better. I also like the seats on the celica better for some reason. They aren't better in quality, they just feel good and the seat height is really low.

Other than that the rsx is better or about equal.

[EasyC]

I'm seriously gonna love these debates come spring time/summer time. Half you guys won't be able to use the aftermarket support claim ;). As for 800 dollars in mods. Apexi, I'll gladly keep up with you after I spend 800 dollars ;). However, I would be greatly interested to see how you managed a 14.1, with a Full interior and I/E/Hondata. Btw, I know some of you are goin to attack this, but again, the people around here average high 14's with RSX-S and I/E/HD.

Mike ran a 13.7 with just PFC and Intake, race him, he has less mods ;).

Stock for stock....equal straight line, GTS better for handling, GTS better for braking, and IMO GTS better for styling.

As a side comment, while on my trip to cali this year i drove a Type S, and honestly (Maybe its just this one i drove) It felt weak as hell. My celi felt like it had more torque. But thats probbly how the torque is distributed thruout the RPM band.

All in all, Celica aftermarket IS GETTING CONSIDERABLY BETTER. And before we know it, the Acura guys are really gonna have to try to compete :). Continue!

[po9i]

apexi runs on the sh!ttiest track in FL....i know a couple of rsx guys personally that have run 14.5 with just a CAI...on a different track here in FL


and you say that the celi aftermarket is getting better? i dont see any major comapnies coming out with products for the car..and TPR is still unproven...

[CeliCar]

Did anyone notice that this thread is over a year old?

[TRD GT-S]

Originally posted by CeliCar
Did anyone notice that this thread is over a year old?

:rofl: werd. Hey Eric, I do like the seats in RSX better but only b/c my ass doesn't sweat in them. I'm sure the new celica seats w/the perforated (sp?) holes make it much nicer. I think the celica braking is better but then again i never braked in your rsx? Remember the gt you had only had front disc brakes.

[EasyC]

Originally posted by po9i
apexi runs on the sh!ttiest track in FL....i know a couple of rsx guys personally that have run 14.5 with just a CAI...on a different track here in FL


and you say that the celi aftermarket is getting better? i dont see any major comapnies coming out with products for the car..and TPR is still unproven...

14.5 wit a cai is very attainable with a celi too.

TPR unproven? What else can i give you guys besides dynos?????

[2ZZ-GE_cBnBLu]

Originally posted by EasyC
I'm seriously gonna love these debates come spring time/summer time. Half you guys won't be able to use the aftermarket support claim ;). As for 800 dollars in mods. Apexi, I'll gladly keep up with you after I spend 800 dollars ;). However, I would be greatly interested to see how you managed a 14.1, with a Full interior and I/E/Hondata. Btw, I know some of you are goin to attack this, but again, the people around here average high 14's with RSX-S and I/E/HD.

Mike ran a 13.7 with just PFC and Intake, race him, he has less mods ;).

Stock for stock....equal straight line, GTS better for handling, GTS better for braking, and IMO GTS better for styling.

As a side comment, while on my trip to cali this year i drove a Type S, and honestly (Maybe its just this one i drove) It felt weak as hell. My celi felt like it had more torque. But thats probbly how the torque is distributed thruout the RPM band.

All in all, Celica aftermarket IS GETTING CONSIDERABLY BETTER. And before we know it, the Acura guys are really gonna have to try to compete :). Continue!

Amen to that!!! I believe the interior of the celica is wWAYYY better than the RSX. The inside of the RSX looked just too plain to me,kind of like riding in a civic Si the only thing that was cool is at night the leds light red in the interior but thats really all I can say for the interior. As for the celi I love how the center console is designed as well as the vents. If we had the euro version it would look even better with the navigation screen and digital climate controls and it does feel like im sitting in a ****pit.

Your right I can't wait till next year rolls around.

[branizzle]

this thread started over a year ago. thats funny.