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djTOY_2000
11-12-2001, 02:20 AM
THIS IS NOT A FLAME ON BO STUDIOS !!! this is my own idea thanks to them.......


well... i just got to thinking that i should post this considering that those modena hoods seem to have been a big hype.....

but my .02 cents say not worth it

after those hoods made their apperance here on the boards, my lil' mind got ta thinking and decided to go talk to my bodyshop about it

i told them that it'd be cool if my hood matched that of a TRD supra hood

i showed him pics and told him about rollin over the cuts and meshing it from the backside and all the other details.....

his response was....Not a Problem, when do you want it done?

i asked how much and the approx cost was 'round $300 he said

i just thought i'd share this idea with others in case that $800 and 25 only turned you away from the other hood

if this shop could do it then any other good body/custom shop could

as soon as this mod gets done i'll post the pics

djTOY_2000
11-12-2001, 02:48 AM
well.....

whats your guys' .02 on this idea ??

good or bad ?

AssFauLt
11-12-2001, 03:02 AM
well, i think you bring up a good point, but im pretty sure these hoods will be of extreme high quality. not saying that you couldnt get high quality copies made, but these are guaranteed.

id like to have the same style vented hood on my car, but i dont want a cf hood, so id probably either wait for someone to come out with it, or opt for your suggestion and get a bodyshop to custom do it for me. as long as the vents were function but also prevented water from soaking in, id be down.

djTOY_2000
11-12-2001, 03:16 AM
well...

i know that when this mod gets done i'll be using it only for shows and on nice sunny days

then i'll have another hood for ****tAY days (in the N.W. it is basically mid oct. 'till late april)

i think definatly worth it ($300)

Maelfyn
11-12-2001, 04:17 AM
I think I missed something. What's all this hype I heard about a full Modena body kit too? Lemme see pics.

djTOY_2000
11-12-2001, 04:34 AM
this would be the hood that is being talked about..... and also the front bumper of the kit

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p28734614f1f2935229b77a95554d188b/fe21ed31.jpg.orig.jpg

djTOY_2000
11-12-2001, 04:43 AM
i do have to say that by the looks of the front bumper for this kit (if it ever gets produced) will be one helluva phat kit !!

cbr600drm
11-12-2001, 04:45 AM
I think the hood looks kind of stupid. The kit would be prety cool though. There was a picture a couple years back of a toyota modena concept and it had the scoops on the side also. Is that part of this kit? Who has the kit? The hood just looks weird though. The modena hood doesn't look anything like that either.

Celicapexi
11-12-2001, 06:13 AM
I don't like that hood. dosen't look right

lafaygts
11-12-2001, 06:21 AM
That is definitly a bad a$$ hood. Definitly not worth the 800 $ though. I would opt for the custom work also because I dont like the carbon fiber look anyway. Hey dustin, ask the bodyshop if they will lower the price if they do 2 hoods.

djTOY_2000
11-12-2001, 06:28 AM
no problem.... i'll talk to 'em later totay after i sleep for a few hours

yeah... i do agree kinda on the ideas for the hood..... kinda looks a lil' off but the way i told the shop i go through to do it, it'll look more like the TRD hood for the supras

Bo
11-12-2001, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by djTOY_2000
well... i just got to thinking that i should post this considering that those modena hoods seem to have been a big hype.....

but my .02 cents say not worth it

after those hoods made their apperance here on the boards, my lil' mind got ta thinking and decided to go talk to my bodyshop about it

i told them that it'd be cool if my hood matched that of a TRD supra hood

i showed him pics and told him about rollin over the cuts and meshing it from the backside and all the other details.....

his response was....Not a Problem, when do you want it done?

i asked how much and the approx cost was 'round $300 he said

i just thought i'd share this idea with others in case that $800 and 25 only turned you away from the other hood

if this shop could do it then any other good body/custom shop could

as soon as this mod gets done i'll post the pics

Let's go out, spend $400- $500+ on a carbon fiber hood with a structure that's designed for a full and closed hood. Then spend $300 to have a bodyshop mimic my designs. Hopefully, the fibers won't look to ragged hanging out from the cutting. Hopefully the uncooked carbon won't flop from the shop job. Next we can all cut the tops off our roofs and make targas? It will look sick until we open the doors and the car buckles becaus it's not designed to support the extra stress. I'm not saying that the your version of my idea won't work, but I like to do it right the first time. You can buy VOLK Rays, or you can buy knock offs. You get what you pay for. The real thing is designed for real tuners, the knock offs are designed for those that want to look like real tuners.

My hoods are designed from the inside out, not the outside in. The vents are placed in the areas they are in for a reason, not just to look pretty. So you can jump in ever post about the hood and hate on the price. This board is open and I expect nothing less, but to ask a body shop to copy the design for $300 + the cost of a hood and take your chances instead of buying the real deal... um, ok. My requirement for 25 hoods to be made... this number is not for hype, but for manufacturing reasons. However, I do agree with you that it seems to have hyped it a bit. The modena bodykit goes into production as soon as the hoods are delivered. Those 37 people that are on wait for that product will be delivered to first. As for your hood... Good luck in your ventures. ;)

PS, can you do me a favor, and take the smoke effect out of my picture that you posted? You are covering up my bostudios.com trademark. I don't mind you posting it only if you don't hide the credit. Thanks.

Bo
Bo Studios Inc.

CloNeGTS
11-12-2001, 06:54 PM
You tell em Bo....nicely put.

Chaos Engine
11-12-2001, 08:07 PM
Hey! Doesn't anyone else here know that the main air intake for the A/C and the RADIATOR is behind the port that that kit's bumper completely closes off?

If you live in Alaska, or only drive in the winter, it might not matter, but on a hot day in AZ I would want to have an air intake for my radiator!

Just my .02

*plink plink*

DJ_GLITCH_OS
11-12-2001, 08:22 PM
Like I have said before it will be worth it.
If we where to ever meet at a car show and the judges had to pick from an ORIGINAL Bo Studios hood and a Bill and Teds most excellent hood, more than likely they are going to go with the BO Hood.
Partially do to the rarity and also the Name behind it.
I am #6 on the list and I am sure it is going to be a wise investment on my part.
But I still want to see what your hood looks like.
Not trying to discourage you, just explaining why I find it to be worth it.
:)

Bo
11-12-2001, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Chaos Engine
Hey! Doesn't anyone else here know that the main air intake for the A/C and the RADIATOR is behind the port that that kit's bumper completely closes off?

If you live in Alaska, or only drive in the winter, it might not matter, but on a hot day in AZ I would want to have an air intake for my radiator!

Just my .02

*plink plink*

I'll go ahead and repost this AGAIN. There are alluminum scallups that pull air from under the small, front, middle portion of the bumper cover. I'll be posting the final designs next month.


Glitch, you have made a wise purchase. It's just one of those things that some like to imitate, and some like to inovate. I'll be sending out a new news letter later this week on the hood and kit.

djTOY_2000
11-12-2001, 10:38 PM
settle down there gtsNut.... i was just putting my two cents in on the matter concidering that SINCE there are only 25 hoods being released i was giving the suggestion of what i thought on it -

no, it will not be a replica of your hood - it'll look different by far !!

this shop that i'd go through has done such extensive work on older hotrods and other custom cars in the northwest (two years ago one of their projects -forget exactly what type of car- was and still is one of the hottest hotrods in the US)

now... this is not going to be a carbonfibre hood- it will be the original stock hood and it will be basically "remanufactured" to support any offsets of stress - like how the hood is designed stock of course (the cut edges would be rolled and what ever else they will do to it - i am not a professional at doing these let alone do i know the terms)

the hood would be resprayed to factory color and wolla - you know have a strong hood with a twist (kinda like yours but not the SAME !!)

do you understand what i am saying now ? customizing of hotrods has been being done for years upon years, now our imports are the new generation of hotrods

how many hotrods have you seen that have been modified all upon a vision of the owner? whether it be a chop-top studebaker or whatever, all hand-done (not pre-designed) is more recognizable than a premaid item - IMO

yeah the rarity of these hoods will boost the opinion on them and will score more points possibly in shows but what the hell.... it's all in what the owner likes and dislikes about their car !!

if i had the knowledge and experience and tools needed in modifying the visual enhancements of my car i would do it all myself

so..... basically your hood is gonna be a great hood and i posted this topic based mainly on the fact to let an idea float around into others heads because duh- i do believe there are more than 25 people out there that like the hood and to not release more than that number is and was a bad idea.... and to pay $800 for it - blah, i'd rather spend it or put it towards something more worth the money

also... i'll just delete that picture then if you want

Chumpchiggy
11-13-2001, 11:48 AM
So basically, you're modifying the stock hood right?

Which means your just a cosmetic guy... these hoods from Bo Studios are not about cosmetics at all... Function before Fashion my friend...

They might be expensive but, the functionality of the airflow along with it being aproximately 25 lbs lighter than a stock hood = a few tenths in the 1/4 mile...

Your "custom" hood = looks original

I think I would opt for the Bo Studios hood....

GTS LAID
11-13-2001, 12:26 PM
Hey dude toyota would love to recruit your dis-"functional" hood for their looks fast campaign...

Me, I prefer to go with IS FAST... and now with the new hood cooler than ever

forgive the pun

djTOY_2000
11-13-2001, 12:46 PM
basically yes.... the idea i have is a cosmetic mod.

i don't see why doing a cosmetic mod would be a "looks fast" issue.

if i wanted to drive a faster car i would've went over and got something that would - (too many to list but use your imagination)

but, since i bought my celica not only because it is a quick and sporty car little number - i like the way it looks.... that's what drew my attention most

and so.... basically this "looks fast" concept is disfunctional in your opinion GTS LAID

based on that reply are you saying that custom paint job is a "looks fast" campaign thingy you say ? whatta 'bout hyper white headlights? those can stay stock right ? --but if you moddifying them then what - "looks fast" again concept ? how about a bodykit ?.... get my opinion on your statement ?

here check out these -

http://imagep.webphotos.iwon.com/1000013060/1000013060_1113200133930AM0.3936884.jpg
http://imagep.webphotos.iwon.com/1000013060/1000013060_1113200133931AM0.2468487.jpg

anyhow..... my opinion on this subject has now changed - i think i should get rid if this car because of the fact there can be such inconciderate people out there that will flame on any "mod" done to these cars if it is not "functional or cool in there ideas" in this import scene (if i wanted to shave the doorhandles is that wrong too?)- too much B.S. and not worth the time !!!

i'm wanting to be one helluva custom car and not an "all about speed" import - that's what i like and that's what i'll do

do these "not look functional" ??

djTOY_2000
11-13-2001, 01:25 PM
GTS nut -

i give you props on your hood for it is what those who wanna go fast want

i guess i am just a cosmetic guy and wished you could put out more hoods and possibly just a fiberglass hood - so it could be painted to match (not a fan of carbonfiber)

Chumpchiggy
11-13-2001, 01:31 PM
You wouldn't have gotten flamed if you hadn't hated on the Bo Studios hood.

You compared your fashion Mod and Price to a Mod that was all about functionality... you created the flame.

If you had posted saying "Bo Studios hood inspired my own modification, what do you think?" you would have been received much better.

You shouldn't have said Bo's hood wasn't worth the money... maybe it's not worth the money "cosmetically" speaking... but, functionality wise, it's well worth the money...

Chiggy

djTOY_2000
11-13-2001, 01:35 PM
you put me check chiggy..... that's how i should've stated it (now how do i rewrite the topic?)

FROM NOW ON WHO EVER READS THIS THREAD IT IS CALLED>> WHAT BO STUDIOS INSPIRED ME TO DO !!!

RexPokinghorn
11-13-2001, 01:38 PM
Hey Bo, I went to your web-site link. I was clicking on the links going "wtf" until I realized it was all just a background... :D

GTS LAID
11-13-2001, 02:05 PM
OH OK I see where you think i've been flaming all your posts.. hehe...

ok well i swear to you that i didint even know you were the same person thats doing the lambo doors... by the way i said that your hood is "dis"functional meaning that its worse in structural quality than the stock... And yes the only thing this does is makes it look fast and "cool" ... I dont particularily like the design of it either... to each his own but i think i have the right to post my opinion on an ugly and less functional modification on our car...

and yes .. you asked when you posted this thread so dont say no one asked my opinion.

I appreciate your last post to chiggy changing the heading of your thread... personally i think there might be lots of people who would like to spend less money and get your hood b/c to them looks matter more and they dont wanna spend lots of money... this is the equivalent of dropping your car for performance reasons vs dropping the car for show reasons... or even for both... difference though is 1500 vs. 250 dollars... it all depends on what you want... most people in the MODS / PERFORMANCE forum would like to see functional pieces.. this is only said by gauging all the posts out there on trubos, s/c, pulleys, cais, exhausts, hoses, replacement kits, etc.

thats all.. if you'd like to get the last word in or feel you have something to say you an PM message me b/c it doesnt belong here anymore and would only get this thread closed.

djTOY_2000
11-13-2001, 02:37 PM
maybe we should suggest to LarryD to make a different section for each....

like one section for " PERFORMANCE MOD's" (all tech/speed/suspension/exhaust stuff)

and one for ....... " VISUAL MOD's" (all bodykit/lighting/ext.)

GTS LAID
11-13-2001, 02:42 PM
that is a very good idea

phaqgm
11-13-2001, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Chumpchiggy
So basically, you're modifying the stock hood right?

Which means your just a cosmetic guy... these hoods from Bo Studios are not about cosmetics at all... Function before Fashion my friend...

They might be expensive but, the functionality of the airflow along with it being aproximately 25 lbs lighter than a stock hood = a few tenths in the 1/4 mile...

Your "custom" hood = looks original

I think I would opt for the Bo Studios hood....

Sorry, but better airflow, and -25lbs from the car WILL not give you a few tenths in the 1/4 mile. That is actually really funny. Sorry.

Here is a general rule of thumb for you. Every 100lbs you can take off of the car you lose about a tenth in the 1/4. And every 10 degrees you can reduce your air intake temperature you gain about 1% increase in HP.

So unless that hood actually funnels air directly into the intake (doubtful) or RAM air, you will not see a time that is a few tenths quicker than without the hood.

-Tim

djTOY_2000
11-13-2001, 04:02 PM
Tim.... your a newbie all over again !!! lol

i have more posts than you now

Bo
11-13-2001, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by phaqgm


Sorry, but better airflow, and -25lbs from the car WILL not give you a few tenths in the 1/4 mile. That is actually really funny. Sorry.

Here is a general rule of thumb for you. Every 100lbs you can take off of the car you lose about a tenth in the 1/4. And every 10 degrees you can reduce your air intake temperature you gain about 1% increase in HP.

So unless that hood actually funnels air directly into the intake (doubtful) or RAM air, you will not see a time that is a few tenths quicker than without the hood.

-Tim

That's good to know. I was wondering if there was an equation for weight. I guess I better hit the gym after my hood get's thrown on.

The hood doesn't funnel air into the intake, it vents the hot engine bay air out, thus helping colder air to flow to the intake. This in turn will increase horsepower. A few tenths? Probably not that much, but for those with a ram air intake, they might feel a much bigger difference than those of us with CAI. Best way to describe it? Stock hood: turn on your fresh air vents and crack a window. Modena hood: roll down all your windows pop the sunroof. That's some serious airflow.

DJ Toy, I think I understand where you're coming from, but saying that your not flaming in the (new edited) post, but calling out our hoods and if they are "worth it?" Expect to be flamed back for flaming.

As for posting the pic, I will allow the posting of the original with the Bo Studios insignia showing. Thanks.

Thanks to everyone else for the support. I'm not just talking about this post, but just in general with the designs and products. It's great to see so many support my ambitions. I really appreciate it.

djTOY_2000
11-13-2001, 05:08 PM
all over it - changing back to your original pic

Youngen
11-13-2001, 05:57 PM
but yes, I like the cleaner look, LOOKS FAST is not the fast, and who wants to be a BIG bag of rice anways! But if you wana make your car stand out and grap some of that 1 sec attention this would be the way to go.

yakkosmurf
11-13-2001, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by djTOY_2000
this would be the hood that is being talked about..... and also the front bumper of the kit

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p28734614f1f2935229b77a95554d188b/fe21ed31.jpg.orig.jpg
This looks terrible. Yuck!

Kry
11-13-2001, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by djTOY_2000
basically yes.... the idea i have is a cosmetic mod.

i don't see why doing a cosmetic mod would be a "looks fast" issue.

if i wanted to drive a faster car i would've went over and got something that would - (too many to list but use your imagination)

but, since i bought my celica not only because it is a quick and sporty car little number - i like the way it looks.... that's what drew my attention most

and so.... basically this "looks fast" concept is disfunctional in your opin
ion GTS LAID

based on that reply are you saying that custom paint job is a "looks fast" campaign thingy you say ? whatta 'bout hyper white headlights? those can stay stock right ? --but if you moddifying them then what - "looks fast" again concept ? how about a bodykit ?.... get my opinion on your statement ?

here check out these -

http://imagep.webphotos.iwon.com/1000013060/1000013060_1113200133930AM0.3936884.jpg
http://imagep.webphotos.iwon.com/1000013060/1000013060_1113200133931AM0.2468487.jpg

anyhow..... my opinion on this subject has now changed - i think i should get rid if this car because of the fact there can be such inconciderate people out there that will flame on any "mod" done to these cars if it is not "functional or cool in there ideas" in this import scene (if i wanted to shave the doorhandles is that wrong too?)- too much B.S. and not worth the time !!!

i'm wanting to be one helluva custom car and not an "all about speed" import - that's what i like and that's what i'll do

do these "not look functional" ??



i like those...



by the way if i gonna modifiy my stock hood what can i do to cut the metal?

DJ_GLITCH_OS
11-13-2001, 07:54 PM
Well I think the BO hood looks bad azz!!
To each there own I guess.
Any ways this argument is getting no where fast.
To rice or not to Rice is allways the question and every one in the end picks a lil rice no matter which side of the argument they are on.
I love the look of the Bo hood and also the fact that it is ment to be more than just a show peice and judges will notice that.
You can have a custom hood and thats cool, while others have an original Bo hood and that will be cool too. Two difrent hoods for two difrent reasons.
At least thats the way I see it.DIKK (http://www.mp3.com/dikk)

Lord Banshee
11-13-2001, 08:16 PM
I like the hood if it is the color of the car. i am not that much into carbon fiber. but hey i overall i think the hood is bad ass indeed and rice or not it will be a kick ass mod. :)