View Full Version : Celica GT-S hits .88 skidpad, does this mean the GT gets the same score?
DrunkenTiger
07-06-2003, 03:19 AM
The GT-S recieved a skidpad score of .88 on car and driver. Does this mean the GT version also handles just as well? I know that they have the exact same suspension but do you think power can be a factor in the skidpad test? Thanks in advance.
vvtlikick
07-06-2003, 04:06 AM
In the official parts list (from this site), the GT-S front springs are a different part number than the GT.
The '00-'02 GT and '00 GT-S share the same part number for the front struts, but the '01 - '02 GT-S gets different part numbers.
In the rear, the only different suspension part I found in the list was a small bracket and bushing, the springs and shocks are the same.
But by far the primary difference is tires, the GT receives crap, while the GT-S tires doesn't. :)
The GT does weigh a little less which should be an advantage, <i>everything else being equal</i>.
As for power, I think a severely underpowered car will have a poor showing on the skidpad, but I don't think GT is <i>that</i> underpowered ;)
FYI: In Japan, the "Super Strut" suspension and a helical LSD ( :drool: ) are available, and I'd expect them to impact any skidpad results.
PUT I/E/H on the GT and it will pull some nice #'s, but tthe chasis in the GT and GT-S are very well sculpted, i love this car!
t2000gts
07-06-2003, 09:08 AM
wtf. i have an '00 GTS, what kind of new front struts came out in '01? :wtf:
toyota :mad:
vvtlikick
07-06-2003, 09:26 AM
According to the part numbers for the front suspension:
In 2000, the GT and GT-S shared the same struts.
In 2000, the GT auto / GT manual / GT-S auto / GT-S each had their own unique springs (presumably small differences to account for engine/tranny weight?).
In 2001-02, the GT-S got different front struts (the GT kept the old shared ones).
In 2001-02, the GT auto / GT manual / GT-S auto / GT-S all got their own unique springs, all different than all the '00 springs.
Here's the relevant section:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid68/p6f2e771e712a121464e5f51836a66f87/fbbf9686.jpg
The only other changes I see elsewhere in the front suspension section:
<ul><li>The '01 -'02 GT got the upsized GT-S front brakes</li><li>In October '99, the front lower control arm changed</li></ul>
t2000gts
07-06-2003, 09:54 AM
i knew i wasn't crazy, i bet the auto springs are softer :wtf: like the motor mounts, car is too bouncy for me around corners.
vvtlikick
07-06-2003, 10:51 AM
I'd expect the automatic to have springs have higher spring rates, to deal with the added weight of the auto tranny, but I'm just guessin' :gap:
As for the mounts, they are different part numbers, but what makes you say the automatic Celica mounts are softer?
t2000gts
07-06-2003, 11:00 AM
someone posted pics once, it looked like the auto has half the motor mount :wtf:
i dont really care, i have TRDs so i am glad i change them
FriedRice
07-06-2003, 12:00 PM
got the hotchkis... i swear they're softer. no joke. but i still can corner like a crazed rabbit. ;)
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