EVO or '03 Cobra ???

[PUcKyMoN]

one of my best friends currently owns a 98 Eclipse GS-T and he's ready to move on to a new car. he took the eclipse to mid 12 sec 1/4 mile times. he wants something with more power and a different look.... and isn't too concerned with handling... just the straight line times. he can get a deal on the cobra for pretty much the same price as an evo. what do you suggest? he's leaning towards the cobra...

thanks!

[WillyK]

I'd take the Cobra.

I bet I'm the only one that says that, all the lemmings with say EVO because it's an import.

[GT-S Celica]

if ur friend is only into drag, then i say go with the cobra.

[gts24]

Cobra , all day every single day.

IBeveryoneelsevotesevocuzitsimport

[Jersey Jay]

Originally posted by WillyK
I'd take the Cobra.

I bet I'm the only one that says that, all the lemmings with say EVO because it's an import. I beg to differ with ya Willy, Cobra every day of the week for straight lines;)

[solaryello03]

What year Cobra? Heard some problems with earlier Cobra and over-reported horsepower. I think the new Cobra's are more powerful. Just what I have read. No real experience with the car.

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

sum mag i have, dunno whih cuz i have plenty ones, have the 03 cobra at mid twelves with more than adequate handling when compared to the history of the stangs handling. id say the cobra is da best car for ts price...... and will smoke some cars twice the price...

[Sirk_2]

Cobra...no doubt about it!
Nothing can beat american muscle....plus, have you heard it stock? soo nice

[DnDs00GTS]

Definitely take the cobra!!! I'm not too fond of the way it looks, but then again... i can't stand the EVO! I think it's FUGLY! As for performance is concerned, there's a lot of potential with the EVO. But stock for stock, the Cobra will take it! MITSU needs to design a good looking 4th gen eclipse with the 4g63... AGAIN!

[The Game]

EVO, I see too many Cobras around here plus AWD

[jotan82]

cobra if he wants to drag...

evo if he wants 4 doors... awd, turbo, spacious seating

[skittles13691]

CORBA!!!!

The only American car I would ever drive is a Cobra (as much as I hate mustangs).

I saw one yesterday....he revved his engine, it was like ROAR!!!!!!!

I rev my engine...it was like "mew"

[soceur]

lol

Originally posted by skittles13691
CORBA!!!!

The only American car I would ever drive is a Cobra (as much as I hate mustangs).

I saw one yesterday....he revved his engine, it was like ROAR!!!!!!!

I rev my engine...it was like "mew"

[SC3]

Cobra. That roar and all that power. :drool:


-SC3

[2002GT_Celica]

For pure straight line speed on that kind of a budget, the Cobra is the best way to go. Easier to mod and even more aftermarket than the EVO more than likely, as well as cheaper.

[iDRIVE]

I dont know why you need to ask this, everyone knows cobra for brute straight line.

[Karim]

::::chanting::::

COBRA! COBRA! COBRA!

Karim

[Doctor_Poop]

Neither...

Tell him to save for a Z06

[F35-JSF]

Originally posted by WillyK
I'd take the Cobra.

I bet I'm the only one that says that, all the lemmings with say EVO because it's an import.


:werd:

Depending on whether he like the current version or not their is a new styled mustang on the preparing for release. If he's looking for a new in the current style, he doesn't have long. From what I've seen the new retro mustangs will also have the S/C V-8 power too.

Originally posted by skittles13691
CORBA!!!!

The only American car I would ever drive is a Cobra (as much as I hate mustangs).

I saw one yesterday....he revved his engine, it was like ROAR!!!!!!!

I rev my engine...it was like "mew"


You put a slp LM and some long tubes on any 4th gen F-body or corvette and that roar would be drowned out by rumbling bass. But you won't be doing that combo on the streets with out being on a first name basis with your local PD. :gap:

[gts24]

You could get a used z06 for about the same price as one of these cars new. and typical z06 owners dont' use any of that car anyways .. .so it'd be well worth it.

[SexyCelica]

Evo cuz I said so

[WillyK]

Originally posted by Doctor_Poop
Neither...

Tell him to save for a Z06

The Cobra nearly hangs with a Z06, a couple of cheap mods and it will kill it.

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

i think it even more than hangs willyk..... and yes, a few hundred bux, and you have a car faster than a z06 for what? 15k less?

[Kit99bar]

you are totally wrong.

Originally posted by WillyK

I bet I'm the only one that says that, all the lemmings with say EVO because it's an import.

[F35-JSF]

Originally posted by NoRulzAt140 Mph
i think it even more than hangs willyk..... and yes, a few hundred bux, and you have a car faster than a z06 for what? 15k less?

The z06 is ahead in the straights stock mind you. The cobra can be a z06 destroyer with a few mods. but slap on a S/C on the Z06 and it would be all over.

[Karim]

Originally posted by gts24
You could get a used z06 for about the same price as one of these cars new. and typical z06 owners dont' use any of that car anyways .. .so it'd be well worth it.

This is true, I considered a used Z06 while looking at my s2k. I found a used 01 with very low miles listed for 35 grand at a BMW dealer. I could've easily talked them down some but insurance was just gonna be sick on it so I got the s2k.

The z06 may get beat in the straights by a modded cobra but put a set of track tires on a z06 and it'll walk all over him on the road course. Those htings are AWESOME track cars. Awesome handling and gobs of power all in a very well priced package.

Karim

[t2000gts]

i'd get the EVO, cuz i like the steering/handling and AWD

[Jeff Adams]

I would take the Cobra. But like others have said, a used Z-06 would be my choice if i could afford it.

[Jersey Jay]

Originally posted by WillyK
The Cobra nearly hangs with a Z06, a couple of cheap mods and it will kill it. :nono: A couple of cheap mods on the Cobra WILL NOT HANG OR EVEN BE CLOSE WITH MY ZO6!

[Jersey Jay]

Originally posted by F35-JSF
The z06 is ahead in the straights stock mind you. The cobra can be a z06 destroyer with a few mods. but slap on a S/C on the Z06 and it would be all over. :werd: I now this for a fact already......

[Jersey Jay]

Originally posted by Karim
This is true, I considered a used Z06 while looking at my s2k. I found a used 01 with very low miles listed for 35 grand at a BMW dealer. I could've easily talked them down some but insurance was just gonna be sick on it so I got the s2k.

The z06 may get beat in the straights by a modded cobra but put a set of track tires on a z06 and it'll walk all over him on the road course. Those htings are AWESOME track cars. Awesome handling and gobs of power all in a very well priced package.

Karim :werd: My ZO has an upgraded suspension and an LPE S/C package. There isn't a Cobra in my neck of the woods that can hang with me in the twisties or straight line;)

[t2000gts]

if i could afford the Z06, i would actually try and take it to a track. don't waste that phenomenal handling. that thing rides like it's on rails.

i don't know of any car that's a better deal than the cobra for the drag strip. although the STi/EVO do benefit a bit from the AWD for launches.

also, a couple of cheap mods probably means almost 400-500hp on that car, so i don't think a stock Z06 would hold it off in a drag.

[Jersey Jay]

Originally posted by t2000gts
if i could afford the Z06, i would actually try and take it to a track. don't waste that phenomenal handling. that thing rides like it's on rails.

i don't know of any car that's a better deal than the cobra for the drag strip. although the STi/EVO do benefit a bit from the AWD for launches.

also, a couple of cheap mods probably means almost 400-500hp on that car, so i don't think a stock Z06 would hold it off in a drag. :bs: Well if you look at my sig. you can see my sae rwhp and torque on my ZO6. I won't post my dyno or my time slip as I have no need to prove anything. My ZO6 @ E-Town last week on BFG drag radials went 10.88 @ 126.7 enough said on the Moded Cobra Vs. a Moded ZO6. BTY LPE just called me @ the shop and they now have a retro-fit intercooler that will add 88 sae rwhp to my ZO. That's going to put me in the area of 581 sae rwhp and 684 hp to the crank:AF:

[Chui]

Originally posted by WillyK
I'd take the Cobra.

I bet I'm the only one that says that, all the lemmings with say EVO because it's an import.

No you're not. I'd take the Cobra, too, if I was only interested in drag racing.

[LimpMasterJ]

Below is a message from a guy I know that's selling his Cobra because he's hardly in town anymore because of work.
__________________________________________________ __

Sorry guys, time has come to sell it. It has been a LOT of fun, and I will miss it. Listed below is what I have paid for the car, extended warranty, and all my mods. Here's the deal:

2003 Sonic Blue Coupe ($34,200)
75000 mile, 6 year warranty ($1120)
13,xxx miles

533 hp, 476 tq @ 13 psi

Kenne Bell blower w/ 9, 13, 17# pullies ($3800)
KB Boost-a-pump
HP by Hermann KB oil spray fix kit ($331)
Apten tuning ($375)
DSS Halfshafts ($559)
MM Full length subframes ($149)
Magnaflow exhaust ($729)
Steeda IRS bushings ($40)
AR springs ($229)
UPR clutch quadrant w/ firewall adjuster ($59)
315/35/R17 Nittos ($366)

More stuff....can't think of it though.


I am asking $5,000 (obo) plus take over payments of $611.61. There are 49 months remaining. If interested, give me a buzz.

(314) 409-6731

[WillyK]

Originally posted by Jersey Jay
:bs: Well if you look at my sig. you can see my sae rwhp and torque on my ZO6. I won't post my dyno or my time slip as I have no need to prove anything. My ZO6 @ E-Town last week on BFG drag radials went 10.88 @ 126.7 enough said on the Moded Cobra Vs. a Moded ZO6. BTY LPE just called me @ the shop and they now have a retro-fit intercooler that will add 88 sae rwhp to my ZO. That's going to put me in the area of 581 sae rwhp and 684 hp to the crank:AF:

You certainly are a cocky prick. I like the Z06, but I like your attitude even more that no modded Cobra will ever touch your beloved car. http://members.cox.net/willyk/Smilies/jerkit.gif

[Jersey Jay]

Originally posted by WillyK
You certainly are a cocky prick. I like the Z06, but I like your attitude even more that no modded Cobra will ever touch your beloved car. http://members.cox.net/willyk/Smilies/jerkit.gif Hey Willie I was waiting for your reply, cocky.......... no confident that a Modded Cobra will not touch my Vette. If at one point that should happen all that I will do is put it in the bay on the lift and mod some more. It's wonderfull that I have a shop with a vested monetary investment in a to do what I choose. Beloved Vette is some ways yes:chuckles: but the GTS is loved in other ways in Vette isn't. I always wait with baited breath to your cherished input and positive comments. I look foward to hearing from you more in the near future.:wave:

[Xracer729]

EVO

[skittles13691]

Originally posted by soceur
lol

Well, it was obviously stock vs. stock as he still had the dealer sticker in the window. Anybody can make their exhaust loud (Geo Metro, etc.) but it's kinda ricery when you don't have the power to back it up. It's like shooting flames outta you tails at idle.


Anyway, I doubt you had alot of nice mods in your car when you were 16. If you would like to prevent me from driving the celi stock, I accept paypal. ^_~

I can now afford tint!!!

[ArchangelX]

Originally posted by Jersey Jay
:bs: Well if you look at my sig. you can see my sae rwhp and torque on my ZO6. I won't post my dyno or my time slip as I have no need to prove anything. My ZO6 @ E-Town last week on BFG drag radials went 10.88 @ 126.7 enough said on the Moded Cobra Vs. a Moded ZO6. BTY LPE just called me @ the shop and they now have a retro-fit intercooler that will add 88 sae rwhp to my ZO. That's going to put me in the area of 581 sae rwhp and 684 hp to the crank:AF:

Uh..didn't he say STOCK vette?

I hate it when people get cocky. :chuckles:

Won't do you a bit o' good when you're in a hole in the ground..heheh.

[jotan82]

modding an evo is not a bad option also...

i would buy the evo, simply because i would never pay money for a domestic car... call me bias

[Illusive]

Originally posted by skittles13691
CORBA!!!!

The only American car I would ever drive is a Cobra (as much as I hate mustangs).

I saw one yesterday....he revved his engine, it was like ROAR!!!!!!!

I rev my engine...it was like "mew"


LOL!!!!!!! hahahaha That was a good one! I laughed so hard at I startled some people next to me!

[MrSpiffy]

I think the EVOs are ugly. Def go with the Cobra if you want fast. It handles pretty good too, but if you want drag then def get the Cobra. Stock for stock it will eat the evo alive. Plus, with barely any mods you'd be in 10's. I've talked to a few guys that have done it. Fun stuff even if the looks could be better.

~Jeron

[PUcKyMoN]

thanks for everyones replies! i think my friend is leaning alot more towards the cobra now.

[Brett]

Jorge is getting a new Car? Whats wrong with the eclipse? Btw I am not going back to Ringling Pucky. I am transfering to AIB in Boston. IM me on AIM sometime. Ieditor. Peace

[csulbkid]

stock for stock, cobras and vette's are not that far off in performance. however when getting the cobra, you dont get the vette's handling. plus you have to remember that the cobra is already SC'ed. throw the same amount of $$ in a vette that you would at a cobra and the vette would be #1

[YOshi31]

how about a mach 1 or is the cobra still better?

[F35-JSF]

Originally posted by YOshi31
how about a mach 1 or is the cobra still better?

Yes the cobra is alot better.

[PUcKyMoN]

Brett ... whoa dood ur movin to boston?? that sux! theres snow there and stuff! hahaha! good luck there though! but yea jorge is leaning towards selling the eclipse. hes goin for the cobra but the evo is still a top choice because he can use most of the parts from the eclipse in it. he just put a bigger turbo in it again but he's has no wheels right now so he hasnt run it around yet. and he still has HKS cams and camshafts to put in so the whole setup needs to be tuned again.

[GTSROLL]

Who says you can use most the parts?

[Chui]

"better" is relative. Most Mustang Engineers would state that the Mach 1 is "better". Most Vehicle Dynamics guys would state that the Bullitt is "better." The smart man would buy the Mach1 and replace the stock anti-roll bars with the ones off of the Bullitt............

[Brett]

You can interchange parts because its the same engine. Other then the fact that its put in different, and ofcourse some few changes, most should be interchangeable. Ofcourse I could be wrong.