time for a is300 engine swap?

[Nu Concept]

i was seriously considering the 3sgte swap but i heard there would be wayy to much fabrication involved since the engine is rwd based. now, i was thinking about the is300 engine swap with- a xs turbo in the future. why you ask? b/c the is300 engine with the xs turbo is dynoed at more than 600 whp (from what i have seen). and since the engine is a lexus/toyota it would not be that complicated. whaT are your guys' input on this?

[pokgai]

isnt the IS300 also RWD? so that would mean the motor is RWD based as well.

[uansari]

It will take a lot of modding for it to fit in the Celica engine bay. Also, it'll totally throw of the weight balance of the car.

Let's say a turbo kit comes out, and you have somehow shoehorned the motor into the Celica... how do you know there will be room for a turbo, intercooler, and all necessary piping?

I think you're better off trading the Celi on an IS300, then building up the motor and boosting it... it'll probably be cheaper in the long run.

Usman

[The Game]

2JZ wont fit in a Celica, we've been over this millions of times

[2002GT_Celica]

Well, there was a shop that had a Celica and had a 3SGTE in the Celica...they said it cost a lot of money, a lot compared to the money you are going to pay for nearly any other swap for any other car, but it worked.

[Vroom_Vroom]

if the 3sgte has a hard enough time fitting in there what more with a v6!

[The Game]

its an I6 not V6

[Redline]

how about the v8 tundra engine! :thumbup:

[Nu Concept]

well, ididnt think about the fact that it was RWD or that it was a 6 cylinder engine. it just looks so small. oh well, time to look for a smaller more economical engine.

[Vroom_Vroom]

Originally posted by The Game
its an I6 not V6

i stand corrected

[F22-Raptor]

The 3SGTE engine is probably the best you are going to get to fit in there. Plus there are plenty of people that have that engine over 400Hp which I think would be more than enough..

[djm221]

The 3SGTE is usually mounted transversly, either in an front/AWD setup, or mid/rear drive setup - so it would not be an issue to adapt it to FWD in the Celica.

[The Game]

Id like to see a 4AGE and keep it all motor :drool:

[autxr]

Originally posted by The Game
Id like to see a 4AGE and keep it all motor :drool:

Except the ZZ engines are the replacement for the A series of engines, and the ZZ engines are superior in pretty much every way shape and form.

A 100% race prepped 4AG is still only about 220-240 hp, and that is when revved to 10,000+ rpm. All of that and you will have no low end torque.

I've spoken with quite a few racers who have test the 4AG head and the 1ZZ head on a flow bench and the 1ZZ outflows the 4AG.

Imagine how good the 2ZZ head must be (since it out flows the 1ZZ).

A 3SGTE or Camry V6 are the most reasonable engine swaps for a Celica, *maybe* even a tuned RAV 4 motor (at least you get some torque that way). All of those options will cost more than the current turbo/supercharger options for the Celica.

Scott

[The Game]

I stand corrected!

[Toy Yoda]

I wonder if you could swap a B18C into the Celi engine bay

As said before, not only will the 2JZ not fit, but it will throw off weight distribution a lot... The iron block 2JZ weighs only slightly less than the aluminum 1UZ V8.

[GregO]

Originally posted by Redline
how about the v8 tundra engine! :thumbup:

[Xracer729]

NO...you would be better off with the 3SGTE the IS300 is RWD I6 first of all its an Iron block and 6 cylinders and it will require more fabrication then teh 3S...i dont think u kno wat your u getting yourself into...if your going to put a 1Jz just put a 2JZ in and you better have moer then enough time and an extremely fat wallet.

[Toy Yoda]

Import a BEAMS, dual-VVTi 3S-Ge... 220ps/215hp from 2.0L of naturally-aspirated, four banger.

[Xracer729]

he would be better off building up the internals and getting an XS kit. im assuming he wants to go fast...if he is "seriously" considering a engine swap the he has enough money to build of the 2zz block and get an XS kit and crank the boost up to 1 bar. the car will be much lighter then having an iron 6 or 4 and u willl have jsut as much power.