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X-EVIL-X
08-21-2003, 02:30 AM
im really thinking of getting this hood but do you think i need hood pins for the fiberglass hood? im sure veilside reinforces the latch and is probally metal. all the veilside hoods ive seen havent had hood pins.
how much would this weigh also? Are there anymore pics of it on an actual car.
its either this or a normal oem cf hood...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid74/p08b57609ba5756201d19f7e402100002/fb643e02.jpg
CelicaGTS6906
08-21-2003, 02:59 PM
Well, since it's fiberglass, I would say that you wouldn't need any hood pins since it wouldn't be as light as CF.
1200TT
08-21-2003, 03:18 PM
it's pretty light. The veilside rsx hood weights 10lbs.
crazyJ
08-21-2003, 03:43 PM
I'll check on the price for you Eli. also I got a price for those RMM Sides, call me.
7THSIGN
08-21-2003, 04:29 PM
i think the hood is around $450
crazyJ
08-21-2003, 05:56 PM
I don't think so man, plus you have to add the shipping from Japan, Is not a cheap hood.
Jesse IL
08-21-2003, 06:00 PM
Oh that is badass. That is exactly the hood I have always wanted.
aZnTrD2k
08-21-2003, 06:35 PM
looks kinda like the c-one cf hood
PhatCellyGT
08-21-2003, 07:13 PM
It's as light as a CF hood guys...CF hoods are fiberglass under the CF layer remember. My cousin's Fiberglass hood on his mustang is lighter than my invader hood
Lark03
08-21-2003, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by PhatCellyGT
It's as light as a CF hood guys...CF hoods are fiberglass under the CF layer remember



:werd:
baNanA_ryCe
08-21-2003, 08:39 PM
is it strong? I'd get it if it was a cf one
RichGT
08-21-2003, 08:58 PM
it really doesnt matter. usually japanese fiberglass is strong but really thin. at high speeds, i would definately recommend hoodpins because you dont want to end up like me. ( CF hood flying off at 90) it also really depends how strong the latches are on your hood. if they are weak, make them stronger..
InEEdBooST
08-21-2003, 09:56 PM
:drool: me want....
satoshi
08-22-2003, 01:54 AM
it is crazy to drive at high speed with FRP hood and without hood pins.
for your safety, hood pins are definitely needed..
00CericaRuss
08-22-2003, 10:20 AM
seriously...
just say yes to hoodpins
http://russ.angrypacket.com/albums/2002-01-01-hood-crap-oh-crap/01010007_G.sized.jpg
TwiST
08-22-2003, 12:02 PM
that happened to ur car? how fast
00CericaRuss
08-22-2003, 12:42 PM
yes... about 70mph i think i was in 3rd gettin on the freeway.. hoodscoop hit wiper arm which hit window... probably wasn't 100% latched properly
DrPaine
08-22-2003, 02:15 PM
where do u get such a sick hood from?
7THSIGN
08-22-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by crazyJ
I don't think so man, plus you have to add the shipping from Japan, Is not a cheap hood.

$480 i was close:)

New Kit Price (http://www.veilside.com/veilsideusa/frames.html)
1200TT
08-22-2003, 04:57 PM
you dont have to add shipping from japan, there is Veilside USA in LA.
7THSIGN
08-22-2003, 09:45 PM
yup
SLOWICA
08-23-2003, 12:15 AM
I'm really liken that hood...
Jesse IL
08-23-2003, 11:36 AM
I'm really liking that whole new bodykit. If I eventually turbo my car and keep it around for a while...that kit might be in order.
SNIPACE
08-23-2003, 11:45 AM
fiberglass hoods might be as light as a CF, but are definately not as strong. Remember CF has a higher tensile strength that the rated capcity of metal with the same dimensions. There is no way that fiberglass can match that. And YES, get some hood pins. Due to the fact that those hoods are lighter, the chance of it lifting and catching air underneath are much greater than that of a stock hood. My $0.02
DrPaine
08-23-2003, 12:08 PM
Group Buy anyone? I've been calling a dealer that carries Veilside in New Jersey to see if they will do a group buy. I hope so, It will cost me $630 shipped to my house. I WANT IT CHEAPER!!!!!
baNanA_ryCe
08-23-2003, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by SNIPACE
fiberglass hoods might be as light as a CF, but are definately not as strong. Remember CF has a higher tensile strength that the rated capcity of metal with the same dimensions. There is no way that fiberglass can match that. And YES, get some hood pins. Due to the fact that those hoods are lighter, the chance of it lifting and catching air underneath are much greater than that of a stock hood. My $0.02

:werd: if an apple falls from a tree...ur screwed. just kidding..i dont know..but that's what i mean. It won't be as strong as the cf hood will it? maybe i gotta feel a cf hood to see
Jesse IL
08-23-2003, 01:09 PM
The carbon fiber used in hoods adds little if any strength to the hood. Other than Benen, which is true carbon fiber, you are dealing with a fiberglass hood, with a thin layer (most likely single ply) of carbon fiber over the top. I have a single ply CF chain guard on my bike. I can take the thing and twist it all around if I want to. Carbon fiber, like any composite material, is strong in some directions but not in other. Where carbon fiber excels is tensile strength, so if something hits your hood, it will most likely stay in one piece.
SLOWICA
08-25-2003, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Jesse IL
The carbon fiber used in hoods adds little if any strength to the hood. Other than Benen, which is true carbon fiber, you are dealing with a fiberglass hood, with a thin layer (most likely single ply) of carbon fiber over the top. I have a single ply CF chain guard on my bike. I can take the thing and twist it all around if I want to. Carbon fiber, like any composite material, is strong in some directions but not in other. Where carbon fiber excels is tensile strength, so if something hits your hood, it will most likely stay in one piece.

I'm willing to bet that the Veilside frp hood is stronger than any VIS, Fiber Images, OE Tuning, etc. hood out there... as said in the above post the carbon fiber on these aftermarket hoods does absoulutely nothing for strength as it is there for mere asthetics. If you want a strong carbon fiber hood it would have to be done in a dry weve lamination process; but expect to pay at least $1-2K.
nexceli216
08-25-2003, 12:41 PM
for those whose cf hood unlatched and fuged up the windshield,
who installed your hood? i had my invader installed by the shop who did my bodykit and up to 102 mph w/o hoodpins, still ok. if your guys' hood were professionally installed than i better get some pins!!
Nooch
08-25-2003, 12:52 PM
It has nothing to do with who installed it. It doesn't matter than the latch is metal, it matters more that the material holding the latch to the hood is sufficient. If there's little fiberglass holding the latch to the hood, it will likely crack and come up at speed; I guess you could have a bodyshop add material around the latch and reinforce it. The Veilside is just as light as any carbon fiber hood anyone here has. The Veilside is not gonna crack if an apple falls on it or crack under any less pressure than a carbon fiber hood would. The carbon fiber on VIS and everyone elses hoods is for aesthetics alone, it adds no (noticable) strength, flexibility, nothing.

Use hood pins if you don't wanna wreck your ride. Your hood may not have come up yet, but it might, do you really wanna risk it? Eventually it will.
Radi0active Man
08-26-2003, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by Nooch

Use hood pins if you don't wanna wreck your ride. Your hood may not have come up yet, but it might, do you really wanna risk it? Eventually it will.

I dunno, every case I've heard about with a CF hood coming open was due to improper latching. I have yet to hear someone claim that their hood flew open because the latch broke off the latch piece on the hood. I mean, it is weaker than stock, but I don't think you can say "eventually it will."

Oh well, either way, I think I'm gonna cave in and get some hoopins. That flexing the hood makes at 80-90 make me pretty nervous... :)
SLOWICA
08-26-2003, 10:50 AM
just got off the phone with Veilside... the entire kit including the hood is not going to be available for a couple of months... :wtc: