Mazda Screws Up again... [Archive]

CeLuKaGT

08-24-2003, 10:49 PM

Surprise Surprise!

If they keep pushing down the HP that thing will be a highly modified four-wheeler :D

Free service for four years sounds good though, and $500 is a good start on mods :)

Oo DaRk StAr oO

08-24-2003, 10:50 PM

i think id do the buy back.

larryd

08-24-2003, 10:53 PM

wow, that blows.

Oo DaRk StAr oO

08-24-2003, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by larryd
wow, that blows.

No its N/A :D

Sorry bad joke, but would you expect anything less from For... Mazda

CelicaLicious

08-25-2003, 12:50 AM

what i want to know is.. how do you screw up the Hp numbers?!?!?!

F35-JSF

08-25-2003, 06:25 AM

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO
i think id do the buy back.

:stupid:

Originally posted by CelicaLicious
what i want to know is.. how do you screw up the Hp numbers?!?!?!

They probably had one or two maybe more ringers/Factory freaks that they can't duplicate now. Every body is in to dyno their car so they can't hide the fact that there cars aren't making the numbers the earlier pre production models were making.

WillyK

08-25-2003, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO
i think id do the buy back.

As would I. That's bs.

SLOWICA

08-25-2003, 07:04 AM

what was mazda originally claiming horsepower to be???

Keyshawn

08-25-2003, 07:16 AM

Mazda needs to try to get those HP numbers back up to their original projections. Power isn't everything, but it's all about perception, and Mazda's definitely losing that battle against the 350Z right now.

Burrcold

08-25-2003, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by SLOWICA
what was mazda originally claiming horsepower to be???

250hp then they changed it to 247hp and now 238hp

veilsideceli

08-25-2003, 08:45 AM

damn that sux....not sure if i still wanna buy one now.....too bad it's such a sweet car and extremely fun to drive

cool2miketlu

08-25-2003, 08:47 AM

but if that 238HP is to the wheels thats still higher than a brand spanking new 350Z I saw dynoed at a shop. I guess they tried to pull a Hyundai misquote HP on us :D

larryd

08-25-2003, 09:06 AM

Its not 238 to the wheels, thats crank hp.

Burrcold

08-25-2003, 09:09 AM

it's like 180 to the wheels :(

Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con

08-25-2003, 09:47 AM

Even 238hp is high. The S2000 has 240hp and puts down ~200whp. So either the RX8's drivetrain is pure sh*t, or power is more like 210 crank hp.

Mistrimeat

08-25-2003, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by Burrcold
it's like 180 to the wheels :(

D'oh! buhahaha

static

08-25-2003, 10:25 AM

Like I said.. the car isn't as fast as people thought... I still like it though.. but thats some bad press.

WillyK

08-25-2003, 10:34 AM

350Z > RX-8

TeeAREdee

08-25-2003, 11:13 AM

Well, Mazda of Japan still has the power rated at 250PS, (248HP).

There was also a hold up at the ports because of emmissions. The problem most likely is a hanidcapped ECU cuz of the U.S.'s gay emissions policy.

In any event, the RX8 6spd is dynoing anywhere from 172-182whp :chuckles:

And the fastest 1/4 mile times by actual people are ranging from 15.2 - 16.5 :rofl:

Lower the cars price by $5000.00 and it would be a good car.

Burrcold

08-25-2003, 11:20 AM

I think it's funny that Mazda is still sticking by their 0-60 in 5.9 even with their admitted hp discrepensy

csulbkid

08-25-2003, 11:39 AM

kind of saw this coming from ford, er, i mean mazda

Oo DaRk StAr oO

08-25-2003, 12:07 PM

Its a sweet looking car but at that price... why not buy a GTS, or RSX Type S, or an SRT4 even. I mean there is a lot of competition out there.

F35-JSF

08-25-2003, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by TeeAREdee
Well, Mazda of Japan still has the power rated at 250PS, (248HP).

There was also a hold up at the ports because of emmissions. The problem most likely is a hanidcapped ECU cuz of the U.S.'s gay emissions policy.

In any event, the RX8 6spd is dynoing anywhere from 172-182whp :chuckles:

And the fastest 1/4 mile times by actual people are ranging from 15.2 - 16.5 :rofl:

Lower the cars price by $5000.00 and it would be a good car.

ouch suddenly the 350z is looking so much better. I'm sure archangel will not like this thread :chuckles:

t2000gts

08-25-2003, 12:55 PM

that's a killer blow for a n/a car. i'd buy-back and wait for a rumored turbo rX-7, at least you can just pump up the boost on that to make up for misrated power :)

btw, i know fwd dynoes better than rwd and everything. but 180 to the wheels from 240hp is horrible.

Oo DaRk StAr oO

08-25-2003, 01:33 PM

Actually Mike is in the hospital bro.

csulbkid

08-25-2003, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO
Actually Mike is in the hospital bro.
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97134

SC3

08-25-2003, 01:56 PM

How does the buy-back offer work? Does Mazda give a refund and then try to sell the used RX-8 at a used car price?

Hmmm... Maybe I can pick up an RX-8 for a good price. :D

-SC3

Fiero

08-25-2003, 06:17 PM

Looks Fast ;)

Mike00

08-25-2003, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by TeeAREdee

Well, Mazda of Japan still has the power rated at 250PS, (248HP).
There was also a hold up at the ports because of emmissions. The problem most likely is a hanidcapped ECU cuz of the U.S.'s gay emissions policy.

\

Oh yes I forgot worry about our planet is gay. Sorry but seems like a good thing to me.

The Game

08-25-2003, 08:34 PM

Who cares?? Its only 12 hp at the crank?? BFD!!

Oo DaRk StAr oO

08-26-2003, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by The Game
Who cares?? Its only 12 hp at the crank?? BFD!!

Take 12chp away from your GTS and you'll have the same HP as a Rav4. Think about that. :gap:

F35-JSF

08-26-2003, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO
Actually Mike is in the hospital bro.

Yeah i heard. Just another reason for him to get well soon.........

TeeAREdee

08-26-2003, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by Mike00
Oh yes I forgot worry about our planet is gay. Sorry but seems like a good thing to me.

Go buy an echo, don't use aerosol cans and don't eat meat.

Bobbeh

08-26-2003, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by t2000gts
that's a killer blow for a n/a car. i'd buy-back and wait for a rumored turbo rX-7, at least you can just pump up the boost on that to make up for misrated power :)

btw, i know fwd dynoes better than rwd and everything. but 180 to the wheels from 240hp is horrible.

My m8s stock S2000 dyno'd 193 at the wheels.. and that was 237bhp. So 180 does sound a little low.. not too far off though.

Keyshawn

08-26-2003, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by TeeAREdee
Go buy an echo, don't use aerosol cans and don't eat meat.

That's a bit harsh. Hehe, I always keep my catalytic converter on every car I've modded because I don't want to be too fuked up to the environment. That doesn't make me a tree-hugging hippie.:D

TeeAREdee

08-26-2003, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Keyshawn
That's a bit harsh. Hehe, I always keep my catalytic converter on every car I've modded because I don't want to be too fuked up to the environment. That doesn't make me a tree-hugging hippie.:D

LIES!, you have your catalytic on because you don't want to get a ticket. :gap:

Oo DaRk StAr oO

08-26-2003, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by TeeAREdee
LIES!, you have your catalytic on because you don't want to get a ticket. :gap:

You got caught bro!!! :D

Keyshawn

08-26-2003, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by TeeAREdee
LIES!, you have your catalytic on because you don't want to get a ticket. :gap:

Hehe, then I guess I have two reasons for keeping the cat on then.;)

Aracheon

08-26-2003, 12:49 PM

BRAK

08-27-2003, 06:25 AM

I would sell the car back.
BUT I think Mazda should give the RX-8 peeps an Mazdaspeed exhaust, and intake system to make up for the loss in power .... wouldnt giving each of them this cheaper option make sense?

gilboman

08-27-2003, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by Mike00
Oh yes I forgot worry about our planet is gay. Sorry but seems like a good thing to me. .

if they actually gave a fvck about the planet...US wouldnt have backed out of kyoto

ringthree

08-27-2003, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by gilboman
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if they actually gave a fvck about the planet...US wouldnt have backed out of kyoto

:werd:

4CyLSiLvACeLi

08-27-2003, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by ringthree
:werd:

BadTOYO

08-27-2003, 03:03 PM

i always wondered how in hell mazda squeezed as much N/A power from the same motor as the twin turbo version in the previous gen rx7
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Oo DaRk StAr oO

08-27-2003, 03:03 PM

Planet Earth aside, the bottom line is this.

RX-8 = new Renesis Rotary Engine putting out 260hp Naturally aspirated using a new intake timing system developed by Mazda. This was the most anticipated car of the year because of the revival of the rotary, the gorgeous looks, and the return of Mazda to the super car world

Then Reality hit

RX-8 = Another Over claimed Mazda victim, not once, not twice, but three times over rated with the horsepower, numerous intake timing problems during pre-release of engine, still gorgeous, over hyped, under powered, and extremely expensive for what you get.

Conclusion:
Mazda needs to get there act together or they might see there futures with the tuner world dim slowly.

csulbkid

08-27-2003, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO
Planet Earth aside, the bottom line is this.

RX-8 = new Renesis Rotary Engine putting out 260hp Naturally aspirated using a new intake timing system developed by Mazda. This was the most anticipated car of the year because of the revival of the rotary, the gorgeous looks, and the return of Mazda to the super car world

Then Reality hit

RX-8 = Another Over claimed Mazda victim, not once, not twice, but three times over rated with the horsepower, numerous intake timing problems during pre-release of engine, still gorgeous, over hyped, under powered, and extremely expensive for what you get.

Conclusion:
Mazda needs to get there act together or they might see there futures with the tuner world dim slowly.
:bowdown: preach on brotha!

Keyshawn

08-27-2003, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by gilboman
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if they actually gave a fvck about the planet...US wouldnt have backed out of kyoto

Depends on who's in charge of the US at the time. An environmentalist like Gore might not have made the same decision.