Regarding Vision HIDs

[celicagt01]

Just the other day i had my passenger-side bulb blow out.. (this was a 450 dollar kit... they're not supposed to blow out!) it seems that little oval inside the bulb (seems to hold the gas) overheated or something as the gas was leaking inside the bulb... well the guy who i bought it from/installed it told me he'd check it out.. but i guess my question is, did anyone else have their bulb blow out on them? the guy i got it from will probably get me a replacement bulb since the kit was only 4 months old... if he doesn't, i'm so screwed (those replacements cost 100-150 i hear) anyway, anyone wanna share their (bad/good) experiences with this kit i'd love to hear them

[RADR1732]

I've had mine for about a months now with no problems (knock on wood) except for the fact that I have so many people thinking that it is just a bulb replacement. Who did you get it from? My friend told me that I should get replacement capsules just in case I need new ones and I need to replace them. He said I should have them saved up so that if something happend I wouldn't run into the problem of the kit and capsules being discontinued. Good luck with your problem and sorry you're having problems.

Richard

[2K1BLKCELGTS]

What causes HID lamps envelope to burn through is because oil from fingers heats up and burns through.
Tell your installer to get you new lamps.

[RADR1732]

What 2K1BLKCELGTS is very true. I can't believe I didn't think of it. Now the installation really requires the removal of the headlight assembly. If they did not remove them for the installation then they more than likely touched the capsules which is really bad cause, as 2K1BLKCELGTS said, the oil from their fingers would head up and burn. I would say ask your installed if they removed the assembly or not. If they didn't they they owe you a new capsule. If they claim they did, have them prove it by asking the person who did the install to point out where the three screws are that they took off to remove the assebly. You can find location from here. (http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/rdelros787/lst?&.dir=/My+Photo+Album/HID+Install&.src=bc&.view=t&.begin=1&.order=&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/rdelros787/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bPhoto%2bAlbum/HID%2bInstall%26.src=bc%26.view=t) Again, good luck.

Richard

[celicagt01]

Hmm.. I really don't think its because of fingerprints on the capsule... because the housing or the glass enclosure isn't cracked/damaged.. there is a small greyish oval INSIDE the capsule that is leaking... not from the fingers touching the glass itself..

[ToyoGT]

Mine hasn't blown up or died. I've had it for a while now. If it does decided to go up(IT BETTER NOT!) i would look into getting the 8000k kit that just came out. it's not purple but it will do :)

i hope you resolve this problem. let us all know what happens

[celicagt01]

Since the vision 4200k kit was discontinued (or hard to find) the guy said he is gonna replace them with k2 6000k burners... he claims the vision ballasts are the same as the k2 ballasts, (makes sense, they draw the same amount of power), so he is going to take both of my vision 4200k burners, while replacing them with a 6000k kit... so all in all, a good resolution to the problem.. gonna go over to his place on thursday or something to get the lights fixed...

one more question - what is the difference between a 4200/6000/8000k kit? (in terms of color) thanks ..

[2K1BLKCELGTS]

Sounds good. The 4K/6K/8K are terms of color in degrees Kelvin.
This is really not a true measure of color but it is a comparison.
(More info than you asked for)
Kelvin color temperture is a comparison black body radiator heated to temperture.
The color temperture is not an actual measure of light, but is the temperture of the reference black body radiator when the appearance is the same.
A standard incandescent lamp is about 3K degrees Kelvin.
8K degrees Kelvin is near the ultra violet end of the spectrum, very very blue. From here, the lower the temp, the more yellow is being introduced.
Those yellow street lights are low pressure sodium and are roughly 2500 K. Daylight is roughly 3500 degree K.
4200 K is simular to the Metal halide used in parking lots (like at a car dealer.)
Hope that helps.

[celicagt01]

Hmm.. so are you saying the higher the kelvin rating, the light is less bright? (assuming since the 8000k kit is near the uv side of the spectrum, there is less visible light)

do you know what kind of difference there will be between.. lets say a 4200k kit vs. a 6000k kit? differences in brightness, color?

thanks for the help

[2K1BLKCELGTS]

No, Lumen output is not related to color. 4200k will be less blue and more yellow, your perception of the light reflected will appear darker at 8000k.
8000k would most likely be to blue for me, even though I really like the blue when lookin at the source, I want a little better color rendition. I like a yellow car to look yellow instead of green.
Actually, now that I think about it, color corrected (3000k-4500k) lamps are not that old. Used to be that all HID were in the 7000k range.
Brightness or intensity, in comparison is measured in footcandles or candlepower or candella. Find out what the mfgr. says the candlepower is for the lamp you are using. It should be rughly the same for any xxxxk temp, given 100watts in minus efficency=output. Be aware though that 100,000 candlepower in blue will be perceived darker at 8000k than at 4200k.

(I've been a consulting electrical engineer and lighting designer for 27 years) Glad I can help.

[2K1BLKCELGTS]

Oh. maybe I didn't answer the question.
4200k is more yellow and will appear brighter (on objects) than 6000k given the same power.
6000k should still give ample color rendition and still have that 'blue' look.

[Blue Lucifer]

just to let you konw, I also have those grey oval things inside the capusles. They didn't do anything to my headlamps, and they came like that.