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SlasherX
11-12-2001, 08:50 PM
that be me :) Last week I was gonna post this, but larry had to go and spill beer on his server or somethign and the board was down ;) Out of all the v6's i've raced, beaten, whatever..there was this one Camaro V6 at CU that kept eluding me. When I was stock and he had I/E we ran even from 50-110 on the highway. Well months later...my bolt on's completed, I put the challenge out. This guy has run a best of 15.1 at 91mph, so I knew it wouldn't be a normal trouncing like I'm accustomed to when I line up next to a GM V6 F-Body at a light. The terms of race were this:

1. Run what you brung
2. Loser buys winner beer.


After our car club meeting we headed out to Denver Downs to line em up. He was running ZR-1 wheels with some 315 width rubber out back. I was running my 15's and my 215/60/15 BFG Touring T/A's (laugh, but these kick teh **** out of my stockers)

I had just installed my Tri-Ax short throw shifter a week before, with an offset preload, teh 2-3 shift is literally a push up, instead of having to angle the shifter and find the gates. Since I wasn't used to this I had missed the 2-3 shift a lot during practicing, so I was pretty nervous about this race.

I had crap in my car from school, and he ran with his sub box in. I left my California Emissions smog pump box plugged in and decided to do smooth quick shifts, instead of powershifting so I don't blow the 2-3.

I bring up my revs to 2k, and pray to the tire gods that I can somehow jump off the line without smoking the rears down. I know this guy can literally drop his car at redline and not get a chirp out of his 315's, so I'm pretty nervous about this holeshot...it may make or break this race. I'd rather not have to rely on my hp reeling him in after a good headstart(if at all), so a lot's riding on this.

Flagger drops, and I slip the clutch out and pound the gas. Only once before have I been able to cut as wicked a launch on the street, but the gods must have been with me on this run. My car's front end jumped off the ground, got a chirp out back and I put a car on him out of the hole. Now its time to shift the 1-2, and I do it alittle bit too early out of excitement over teh launch and shift at 5200rpms instead of the more powerful 5500 rpm shift. I do it quickly, but didn't give it my all cuz i didn't want to find out if my stop bolt settings were just right ;)

to my amazement I kept my lead on him through 2nd, now its time for the make it or break it 3rd gear. You see, my 3rd gear is where I lose to just about everyone with a faster car. I can hang with or beat all my friends 14 second cars just fine til I get above 60mph or so. Hell, I had half a car on foolmonkey's GT-S at 65, so I know that my car falls flat. Now that you guys know this, know that the afternoon before this race I had a H pipe crossover tube welded into my duals..previously I had just straight pipes, with no exhaust equalization. With the H pipe in there..a whole $15 later..my 3rd gear is no longer death above 65..it can carry on the power now.

I hit the 2-3 shift..'good!", I yell out loud as I continue to floor it. What I'm noticing though is my 1 car lead on him off the line has now carried out to 2 cars and pulling more and more slightly. I cross the finish line at 105 and hit the brakes fast.

Get out of the car to my friends Congrats. I had pulled away from a 91 mph trapped car that ran a 15.1 by 2 cars...Wow! was all I coudl think. Brian comes up to me to shake my hand and ask me what beer I want :) And with that my car ascended to the top of the ladder at Clemson, and the surrounding area (as much as anyone knows)

since my bolt-on power mod stage is done, I'm now focusing at my crappy suspension. I'm getting full length subframes weldded in this Wednesday, then saving up for some Bilstein shocks/struts with H&R Race springs. After that I'm going to finish up my stereo, do some tint, and get soem wheels and good rubber..FINALLY.

After that....it starts to get scary at the power mods I'll be doing..but for right now, while I collect my paychecks..Shhhhhhhhhhhhh ;)

Brett
11-13-2001, 10:50 AM
LOL! that was an awsome read!. Good work. What beer did you end up getting? :)

Dave B
11-13-2001, 12:08 PM
Good race, man. Do me a favor a smack the Camaro owner because the idiot is running 17X9 SS/ZR-1 rims and 315 series tires. Doesn't this fool realize he added about 15lbs more unsprung weight (ie .3 second slower et) when he added those wheels. Will riceboys ever learn that big wheels are aweful for racing.

BTW, when are you gonna take that thing to the track......or are you chicken, Colonel Sanders? :D


Dave

SlasherX
11-13-2001, 01:17 PM
I ended up getting a case of Budweiser. My friend kinda bumped into the convo when i was trying to decide upon teh beer and shouts out Bud! before I could say anything, so.. :D

Dave:

I've taken my car to the track several times but have never been able to beat the 15.4 i hit stock. Commerce as a track is very slippery, and guys running DR's and slicks have trouble cracking below 2.0 60 foots there. It's hell on my radials, and my best 60 there is a 2.29 pratically stalling the car so i wouldn't spin. The track has been closed since late October, so I have to wait until it reopens again in February, but local guys around the atlanta area who've ran at Commerce can verify for me how bad that track is. Currently the guys in teh club ehre are trying to find a viable alternative thats not too far away..Comerce is only 50 minutes from campus, so we've been kinda spoiled. Our best bets so far are Charlotte, or Jackson? in SC. By the time Commerce reopens I'll have more rubber out back, unfortunately on a 17 inch rim, so the tire won't flex enough, but with the larger contact patch and superior rubber that I'll put on the rim, I'm hoping for some consistent 2.2's instead of my 2.3-2.4's spinning thru first.

Blk00SS
11-13-2001, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by SlasherX
that be me :) Last week I was gonna post this, but larry had to go and spill beer on his server or somethign and the board was down ;) Out of all the v6's i've raced, beaten, whatever..there was this one Camaro V6 at CU that kept eluding me. When I was stock and he had I/E we ran even from 50-110 on the highway. Well months later...my bolt on's completed, I put the challenge out. This guy has run a best of 15.1 at 91mph, so I knew it wouldn't be a normal trouncing like I'm accustomed to when I line up next to a GM V6 F-Body at a light. The terms of race were this:

1. Run what you brung
2. Loser buys winner beer.


After our car club meeting we headed out to Denver Downs to line em up. He was running ZR-1 wheels with some 315 width rubber out back. I was running my 15's and my 215/60/15 BFG Touring T/A's (laugh, but these kick teh **** out of my stockers)

I had just installed my Tri-Ax short throw shifter a week before, with an offset preload, teh 2-3 shift is literally a push up, instead of having to angle the shifter and find the gates. Since I wasn't used to this I had missed the 2-3 shift a lot during practicing, so I was pretty nervous about this race.

I had crap in my car from school, and he ran with his sub box in. I left my California Emissions smog pump box plugged in and decided to do smooth quick shifts, instead of powershifting so I don't blow the 2-3.

I bring up my revs to 2k, and pray to the tire gods that I can somehow jump off the line without smoking the rears down. I know this guy can literally drop his car at redline and not get a chirp out of his 315's, so I'm pretty nervous about this holeshot...it may make or break this race. I'd rather not have to rely on my hp reeling him in after a good headstart(if at all), so a lot's riding on this.

Flagger drops, and I slip the clutch out and pound the gas. Only once before have I been able to cut as wicked a launch on the street, but the gods must have been with me on this run. My car's front end jumped off the ground, got a chirp out back and I put a car on him out of the hole. Now its time to shift the 1-2, and I do it alittle bit too early out of excitement over teh launch and shift at 5200rpms instead of the more powerful 5500 rpm shift. I do it quickly, but didn't give it my all cuz i didn't want to find out if my stop bolt settings were just right ;)

to my amazement I kept my lead on him through 2nd, now its time for the make it or break it 3rd gear. You see, my 3rd gear is where I lose to just about everyone with a faster car. I can hang with or beat all my friends 14 second cars just fine til I get above 60mph or so. Hell, I had half a car on foolmonkey's GT-S at 65, so I know that my car falls flat. Now that you guys know this, know that the afternoon before this race I had a H pipe crossover tube welded into my duals..previously I had just straight pipes, with no exhaust equalization. With the H pipe in there..a whole $15 later..my 3rd gear is no longer death above 65..it can carry on the power now.

I hit the 2-3 shift..'good!", I yell out loud as I continue to floor it. What I'm noticing though is my 1 car lead on him off the line has now carried out to 2 cars and pulling more and more slightly. I cross the finish line at 105 and hit the brakes fast.

Get out of the car to my friends Congrats. I had pulled away from a 91 mph trapped car that ran a 15.1 by 2 cars...Wow! was all I coudl think. Brian comes up to me to shake my hand and ask me what beer I want :) And with that my car ascended to the top of the ladder at Clemson, and the surrounding area (as much as anyone knows)

since my bolt-on power mod stage is done, I'm now focusing at my crappy suspension. I'm getting full length subframes weldded in this Wednesday, then saving up for some Bilstein shocks/struts with H&R Race springs. After that I'm going to finish up my stereo, do some tint, and get soem wheels and good rubber..FINALLY.

After that....it starts to get scary at the power mods I'll be doing..but for right now, while I collect my paychecks..Shhhhhhhhhhhhh ;)

"Claps" Now get some DR's and get some low 14's :)

oldster
11-13-2001, 03:43 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SlasherX
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Flagger drops, and I slip the clutch out and pound the gas. Only once before have I been able to cut as wicked a launch on the street, but the gods must have been with me on this run. My car's front end jumped off the ground, got a chirp out back and I put a car on him out of the hole. Now its time to shift the 1-2, and I do it alittle bit too early out of excitement over teh launch and shift at 5200rpms instead of the more powerful 5500 rpm shift. I do it quickly, but didn't give it my all cuz i didn't want to find out if my stop bolt settings were just right ;)



Nice run. Did you mean that your car's front end rose considerably or a 15 second car on street tires popped the front wheels off the ground? :rolleyes:

SlasherX
11-13-2001, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by oldster
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SlasherX
Nice run. Did you mean that your car's front end rose considerably or a 15 second car on street tires popped the front wheels off the ground? :rolleyes:


My front end rose considerably. I'm riding on stock springs. They're terrible with lots of roll in them.

O2BQIK
11-13-2001, 07:08 PM
Race me dammit! I've only got 2.5 times your HP these days... :D

oldster
11-13-2001, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by SlasherX



My front end rose considerably. I'm riding on stock springs. They're terrible with lots of roll in them.

Unless you have a very sophisticated rear suspension it is a good thing to have your front end loose. Allows a faster rise and thus weight transfer to the rear (obviously rear drives only need apply). :)

SlasherX
11-13-2001, 08:25 PM
I agree..you want the quick weight transfer to teh rear..im picking up full length subframes tomorrow to help speed up teh transfer as well. (stiffen teh chasis)

the mustang rear suspension IS very sophisticated....*cough* for 1970's technology *cough*

:)

SlasherX
11-13-2001, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by O2BQIK
Race me dammit! I've only got 2.5 times your HP these days... :D

heh, not THAT much more, sorry :)

iwantaferrari
11-13-2001, 09:27 PM
heheh that was a good race dave

for any doubters on the front end thing....

that V6 has the softest springs ive ever felt on a car ever. imagine a caddilac, then make that twice as soft. im shure he didnt do a "wheelstand" or anything close, but im shure that wheelgap doubled....

FastDriver
11-13-2001, 10:17 PM
O2BQIK,

Just curious. What kind of times do you expect with that much RWHP? What mods do you have?

Thanks

Chris

Blk00SS
11-13-2001, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by FastDriver
O2BQIK,

Just curious. What kind of times do you expect with that much RWHP? What mods do you have?

Thanks

Chris

High 11's/Low 12's with Traction

Brett
11-14-2001, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by Blk00SS


High 11's/Low 12's with Traction

Remind me to never mess with your car!

O2BQIK
11-14-2001, 07:31 PM
Well, judging by other people's cars with similar mods and power, it should be fully capable of 11's. The question will be the driver...i will need lots of practice to do anything too useful with the HP :) I've got heads and cam work plus bolt-ons. With tuning hopefully i'll see 410-ish at the wheels.

Hey dave, have you dynoed?

SlasherX
11-14-2001, 09:25 PM
im going Dec. 1st to get dynoed..I've been told to expect 180-190 at the wheels. :)

iwantaferrari
11-14-2001, 11:37 PM
if you out dyno me you *** im going to beat you with a wiffle bat!!!! dont think i wont either :)

Blk00SS
11-15-2001, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by iwantaferrari
if you out dyno me you *** im going to beat you with a wiffle bat!!!! dont think i wont either :)

You have him in the Torque department but i dunno about HP

VZV21
11-16-2001, 06:32 PM
SlasherX

does clemson still sell those god-aweful orange overalls?

SlasherX
11-16-2001, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by VZV21
SlasherX

does clemson still sell those god-aweful orange overalls?

yeah :(