Black Eyed Peas Monkey Business Review

IrCGTS · 06-14-2005, 08:21 PM

Great CD.

I can play the whole thing without skiping a track.

My hump .. my hump .. my lovely lady lumps.

tool462 · 06-14-2005, 08:26 PM

BEP sucks.

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IrCGTS · 06-14-2005, 08:37 PM

What do you like, Barney?

tool462 · 06-14-2005, 08:45 PM

Are you calling me Barney, or asking me if I like Barney?

I generally prefer rock, a bit on the harder side, but listen to almost everything to some extent (except for country). It's a tough sell to get me to listen to pop music though. My fiance has one of the BEP albums (the one with Hey Mama on it) and I couldn't stand it.

JaCelica2k · 06-14-2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IrCGTS

Great CD.

I can play the whole thing without skiping a track.

My hump .. my hump .. my lovely lady lumps.

Wait till you listen to it for a month or so. I loved all of it at first, but now there are a lot of them I can not listen to "My Humps" being one of them. My favorite is still Gone Going.

hollidaysun · 06-14-2005, 09:27 PM

Is that the CD that has that song that samples the old Lisa Lisa Cult Jam song "I Wonder if I Take you Home" and that song "Sally, That Girl"? I LOVE that song! I was riding to work the other day and when it came on the radio I started dancing in my car and a truck full of black guys started honking and waving at me!

IrCGTS · 06-14-2005, 09:38 PM

Did you proceed to give them all bj's and have them gangbang you and video tape it to put it on blacksonblonds.com ?

JaCelica2k · 06-14-2005, 09:44 PM

Oh and repost........

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=174549

marc · 06-14-2005, 10:06 PM

too bad they used to be credible underground rap, but totally changed their sound and picked up that skank whore in order to make more money at the sacrifice of their artistry - the definition of sellout.

ArchangelX · 06-14-2005, 10:07 PM

They're rich though.

hollidaysun · 06-15-2005, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IrCGTS

Did you proceed to give them all bj's and have them gangbang you and video tape it to put it on blacksonblonds.com ?

Hmmm. You know, I didn't even think of that! You must be a marketing genius!

By the way smartass - I'm a brunette.

MarkyMark · 06-15-2005, 07:56 AM

commercialized garbage.

MarkyMark · 06-15-2005, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hollidaysun

and that song "Sally, That Girl"?

ugh...that must be a ripoff then, since that song was a hiphop track from the mid 80s.

Chumpchiggy · 06-15-2005, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark

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Originally Posted by hollidaysun

and that song "Sally, That Girl"?

ugh...that must be a ripoff then, since that song was a hiphop track from the mid 80s.

Apparently, 75% of their album is cover songs.

MarkyMark · 06-15-2005, 07:59 AM

I dont get it though, wouldnt they be LOSING money after having to pay royalties for all of that??

hollidaysun · 06-15-2005, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chumpchiggy

Apparently, 75% of their album is cover songs.

It's not a cover song. They just sampled part of "Sally, That Girl" and added it to this song.

Chumpchiggy · 06-15-2005, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark

I dont get it though, wouldnt they be LOSING money after having to pay royalties for all of that??

Depends on the copyright holder. You have to pay a lump sum for the copyright, and then you pay rolyalities through the "Harry Fox Agency" which surmounts to about $.08 per album sold. So if they sell a 5 million copies, that's $400,000 to each person they sampled from.

Assuming they're on "full artist status" because of their last albums success, they (the entire group) is likely receiving anywhere from $1.60 - $2.00 per album. No more than that... 50 Cent and Eminem only make $1.90 per album...

So doing the math, if they used samples in 10 songs, and sold 5 million copies, that's $4 million that they'll pay out in royalties, which comes out of the Artists share, not the Record Label share. If they're making $2 per album, they've already cut their return from $10 Mil, to $6 Mil. That doesn't include production fees, recording fees, mastering fees, and lawyer fees....

When it comes down to it, the 4 members will likely split $2-$3 Mil between them, and be broke.

MarkyMark · 06-15-2005, 08:12 AM

hah...that really sucks

Now I know why these band members wind up making stupidity like their own clothing line or vodka.

hollidaysun · 06-15-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chumpchiggy

Depends on the copyright holder. You have to pay a lump sum for the copyright, and then you pay rolyalities through the "Harry Fox Agency" which surmounts to about $.08 per album sold. So if they sell a 5 million copies, that's $400,000 to each person they sampled from.

Assuming they're on "full artist status" because of their last albums success, they (the entire group) is likely receiving anywhere from $1.60 - $2.00 per album. No more than that... 50 Cent and Eminem only make $1.90 per album...

So doing the math, if they used samples in 10 songs, and sold 5 million copies, that's $4 million that they'll pay out in royalties, which comes out of the Artists share, not the Record Label share. If they're making $2 per album, they've already cut their return from $10 Mil, to $6 Mil. That doesn't include production fees, recording fees, mastering fees, and lawyer fees....

When it comes down to it, the 4 members will likely split $2-$3 Mil between them, and be broke.

But don't you have to use a certain percentage of a song before you have to pay for it? They only use very small parts of these songs.

Chumpchiggy · 06-15-2005, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hollidaysun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chumpchiggy

Depends on the copyright holder. You have to pay a lump sum for the copyright, and then you pay rolyalities through the "Harry Fox Agency" which surmounts to about $.08 per album sold. So if they sell a 5 million copies, that's $400,000 to each person they sampled from.

Assuming they're on "full artist status" because of their last albums success, they (the entire group) is likely receiving anywhere from $1.60 - $2.00 per album. No more than that... 50 Cent and Eminem only make $1.90 per album...

So doing the math, if they used samples in 10 songs, and sold 5 million copies, that's $4 million that they'll pay out in royalties, which comes out of the Artists share, not the Record Label share. If they're making $2 per album, they've already cut their return from $10 Mil, to $6 Mil. That doesn't include production fees, recording fees, mastering fees, and lawyer fees....

When it comes down to it, the 4 members will likely split $2-$3 Mil between them, and be broke.

But don't you have to use a certain percentage of a song before you have to pay for it? They only use very small parts of these songs.

No, you can file copyright on a single note of a composition. Length or time of the sample has no bearings on the royalties. That's why Dr. Dre and Puffy get sued all the time.

Artists like myself, don't make enough noise on the soundscan charts to warrant licensing... I sampled Jim Croce, It's a Wonderful Life, Singin' in the Rain, and a few obscure recordings on my album. But I don't sell enough to even warrant the lawsuit, they'd pay more in lawyer fees than they'd get from the royalties.

hollidaysun · 06-15-2005, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chumpchiggy

No, you can file copyright on a single note of a composition. Length or time of the sample has no bearings on the royalties. That's why Dr. Dre and Puffy get sued all the time.

Artists like myself, don't make enough noise on the soundscan charts to warrant licensing... I sampled Jim Croce, It's a Wonderful Life, Singin' in the Rain, and a few obscure recordings on my album. But I don't sell enough to even warrant the lawsuit, they'd pay more in lawyer fees than they'd get from the royalties.

Yeah. I caught on to a few samples in your album. Clever use of the songs.

marc · 06-15-2005, 09:07 AM

I wanna have doggy style sex with the chick from the band.

JaCelica2k · 06-15-2005, 09:47 AM

Who doesn't

Mistrimeat · 06-15-2005, 10:17 AM

God I hate that fvcking band. I think their Worst Buy commercial was the final straw for me.

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06-14-2005, 08:21 PM	#1
IrCGTS 07 4 door Si Join Date: May 2001 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 3,395 iTrader: (0)	Black Eyed Peas Monkey Business Review Great CD. I can play the whole thing without skiping a track. My hump .. my hump .. my lovely lady lumps.

06-14-2005, 08:26 PM	#2
tool462 Prinipple Skipster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Asgård Posts: 1,453 iTrader: (0)	BEP sucks. : :

06-14-2005, 09:44 PM	#8
JaCelica2k ********* Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Richmond Va...can I call you a whambulance? Posts: 1,314 iTrader: (0)	Oh and repost........ http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=174549 __________________

06-14-2005, 08:37 PM	#3
IrCGTS 07 4 door Si Join Date: May 2001 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 3,395 iTrader: (0)	What do you like, Barney?

06-14-2005, 08:45 PM	#4
tool462 Prinipple Skipster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Asgård Posts: 1,453 iTrader: (0)	Are you calling me Barney, or asking me if I like Barney? I generally prefer rock, a bit on the harder side, but listen to almost everything to some extent (except for country). It's a tough sell to get me to listen to pop music though. My fiance has one of the BEP albums (the one with Hey Mama on it) and I couldn't stand it.

06-14-2005, 09:27 PM	#6
hollidaysun Wannabe Rock Star Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 3,346 iTrader: (0)	Is that the CD that has that song that samples the old Lisa Lisa Cult Jam song "I Wonder if I Take you Home" and that song "Sally, That Girl"? I LOVE that song! I was riding to work the other day and when it came on the radio I started dancing in my car and a truck full of black guys started honking and waving at me!

06-14-2005, 09:38 PM	#7
IrCGTS 07 4 door Si Join Date: May 2001 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 3,395 iTrader: (0)	Did you proceed to give them all bj's and have them gangbang you and video tape it to put it on blacksonblonds.com ?

06-14-2005, 10:07 PM	#10
ArchangelX Building a racetrack... Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oahu, Hawaii Posts: 4,967 iTrader: (0)	They're rich though. __________________

06-15-2005, 07:56 AM	#12
MarkyMark punch the keys Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NYC metro, again Posts: 3,395 iTrader: (0)	commercialized garbage.

06-15-2005, 07:59 AM	#15
MarkyMark punch the keys Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NYC metro, again Posts: 3,395 iTrader: (0)	I dont get it though, wouldnt they be LOSING money after having to pay royalties for all of that??

06-15-2005, 08:12 AM	#18
MarkyMark punch the keys Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NYC metro, again Posts: 3,395 iTrader: (0)	hah...that really sucks Now I know why these band members wind up making stupidity like their own clothing line or vodka.

06-15-2005, 09:47 AM	#23
JaCelica2k ********* Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Richmond Va...can I call you a whambulance? Posts: 1,314 iTrader: (0)	Who doesn't __________________

06-15-2005, 10:17 AM	#24
Mistrimeat I f*cked the Judds. Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Youstain, Texace Posts: 8,942 iTrader: (0)	God I hate that fvcking band. I think their Worst Buy commercial was the final straw for me. __________________

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