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Old 06-11-2010, 08:08 PM   #1
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The Evo’s old rival, Subaru’s Impreza STi, is also set to offer a diesel model in its next generation — but it’s still likely to have a petrol-powered variant too.

Due in 2012, the next-gen STi will get an enhanced version of the 2.0-litre turbodiesel offered in the current Impreza. Its flat four layout should make it easier for Subaru to maintain the STi’s reputation for fine handling, while delivering better fuel economy.

Subaru isn’t about to drop turbocharged petrol engines just yet, though. Insiders say a downsized four-cylinder petrol unit, possibly based on the 1.5-litre flat four that powers base-model Imprezas, is under consideration.

Subaru is one step behind Mitsubishi on the hybrid front, though. Although the company has this technology planned for the hot Impreza, it’s unlikely to appear until at least halfway through the next-gen model’s lifecycle.

As with the Evo, the Impreza’s revisions will mean a shake-up of the car’s motorsport activities. Instead of rallying, the Impreza is likely to switch to circuit racing.

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Considering this info on Subi and the new info on Mitso, WRC needs a new class. Diesel.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:20 AM   #3
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^ they're both out of the WRC constructors title for a couple years already, so it would be pointless.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:00 AM   #4
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diesel is awesome for daily use where you're rarely above 4000 rpm.
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Last month, we brought you the first photos of the next-generation 2013 Subaru Impreza WRX in disguise. It was caught testing in Europe and even though it was covered from nose to tail in black camouflage, the Subaru Impreza prototype revealed a few details about the styling direction of the redesigned hatchback.

Up front, the test mule looks like it had a few design elements borrowed directly from the Hybrid Tourer Concept shown at the 2009 Tokyo Auto Show. The angular lines of the grille and front fascia are certainly different from the current Impreza and they point toward an even more aggressive look for the all-wheel-drive hatchback.

The grille no longer blends cleanly into the hood line, as you can clearly see two notches on each side that sharply define the opening. Separate headlights also appear to be part of the new design along with a new lower airdam and small front quarter windows just ahead of the side mirrors.

The changes out back are less dramatic. New taillights that are a little shorter and wider appear to be the most noticeable change, while the overall shape of the rear window looks much the same as the current WRX hatchback. Hard to tell what's going on with the tailpipes as the test mule had its exhaust tucked tightly under the bodywork. We can only hope that the production WRX gets a proper set of exhaust pipes when it arrives in production form.




It's a start.
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I really dont like this one... so I guess everybody else will.
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Almost all subaru's look ugly when first released. They all have to grow on you.
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Old 10-14-2010, 05:30 PM   #11
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Subaru has always had bad taste in styling...
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How is that more aggressive? It looks 10x softer in the front.
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Yeah looks like someone pulled back on the roof and stretched the front over the hood lol
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ugly.!

i still liked the current model..
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yawn... looks boring.
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Old 10-18-2010, 06:57 PM   #22
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they need to be more aggressive, like the 04-07, my favorite 2 body styles
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You mean you don't like it when the shifter vibrates at about 651612651 ips when going down the highway? lol
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You mean you don't like it when the shifter vibrates at about 651612651 ips when going down the highway? lol
I was more referring to excessive body roll, turbo lag, and numb steering - but yes, they're rattleboxes as well.
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Subaru's gone soft with the styling, I wonder how much of a say Toyota had in that.
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There are a lot of rumors surrounding the next Subaru Impreza WRX STI, with some reports suggesting it will go diesel, while others point to a hybrid version. And while we don’t yet know what the decided powerplant will be, we can guarantee it will include AWD, go like stink and look awesome!

OK, so we don’t know that last one either, but thanks to the creative genius of artist Jon Sibal we can share a creative peak at what the next STI might look like.

Based on the Impreza Design Concept unveiled at the LA Auto Show, the STI model gets the requisite fender flares, top-mount intercooler and, of course, a massive wing on the back. The concept car has actually received a significant level of criticism from the Subaru faithful, although it’s easy to see how the handsome compact car shape works perfectly in a more aggressive form.


That looks damn good.
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Jon Sibal has bad ass skills. Also has a sweet M3.
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Looks like they chopped a rear end pic of the old STI's with a front end pic of the new one's (the hatchback).

I like it.
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With the launch of the fourth generation Subaru Impreza, the Japanese company will separate the Impreza model from the WRX and STI variants. Whilst the new 2012 Subaru Impreza naturally aspirated models will go on sale as soon as supply production from Japan is sorted, the WRX and STI variants will continue to be sold in the third generation shape for the forceable future.



We believe the main reason is to create differentiation between the two models so that the WRX and STI variants can earn their status as unique sport models and not just halo models for the Impreza.

[/img]http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/2012-Subaru-Impreza-Show-35-625x416.jpg[/img]

The other reason is the new 2.0-litre boxer engine (pictured above), which Subaru currently has no plans to turbocharge. This means the EJ25 turbocharged engine (pictured below) currently in the WRX, STI, Forester XT/S-Edition and Liberty, is going to last a while longer before a replacement is found. The EJ design architecture is now over 20 years old but has been extensively modernised over the years and can still keep up and even outdo its competitors.



Speaking to CarAdvice in New York, Subaru’s Impreza Product General Manager, Mr Akihide Takeuchi, said work on the replacement turbocharged engine has commenced but would not give any further details. He did confirm that it will not be based on the EJ25 and will not simply be a turbocharged version of the new boxer engine.

He said that the new boxer engine was designed with fuel efficiency and performance in naturally-aspirated application as top priority, making its design architecture less suitable for a turbocharger.

Mr Takeuchi said that a decision on the future platform of the WRX and STI was due very soon. Talk of separation between the Impreza and its sport derivatives makes us wonder if we might see a two-door WRX/STI model in the future.



On the surface this may sound like bad news for WRX/STI fans but it can indeed mean that future models will be built from the ground up to be sports cars as oppose to just being an Impreza with performance bits.



In related news, talk of a hybrid Impreza is still on-going with Mr Takeuchi admitting that “hybrid is very important” as his company continues to study the technology for viability.

Perhaps the next generation Impreza WRX/STI models will be turbocharged hybrids? Only time will tell. Let us know if you’d love to own a two-door WRX/STI!
An all new engine, all new car built from the ground up. The next WRX/STi is going to be epic!!

Who thinks the new NA boxer engine will be the engine for the FT-86?
It says its been optimised for NA performance and fuel efficiency. I am 95% sure it will be the engine.
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Damn...Subaru should've done that a long time ago.
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Damn...Subaru should've done that a long time ago.
This. It would have been able to compete with the evo if they did this from the start.
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The product general manager of the Impreza, Akihide Takeuchi, said that although he can’t comment on the progress of the car, it would be safe for all of us to have very high expectations.

The STI’s launch is still about a year away—we hear that it’s scheduled to reach dealer showrooms in the summer of 2012. The car will first appear as a 5-door hatchback, with perhaps a sedan version to follow. It seems that Subaru has plans to compete in various motorsports events with the WRX STI, so expect to see the hatchback at rally events, with the sedan competing in touring-car races.

We’re still unsure how the U.S.-spec WRX STI will differ from the home-market version, but we do know that both will produce more than 300 bhp. The Japanese model will come powered by a new version of the FB flat-4 with a turbocharger. Our sources say that the 2.0-liter engine will produce 330 bhp and 324 lb.-ft. of torque, which is 8 bhp and 12 lb.-ft. more than the current domestic model. Despite the additional power, we expect fuel economy to improve.

The price is expected to be around $35,000, but we’re hoping Subaru will be able to bring that down to the $30,000 mark. With the high value of the Japanese yen to the American dollar, however, that might prove impossible. But we do know that the car will be one potent machine. The product general manager of the Impreza, Akihide Takeuchi, said that although he can’t comment on the progress of the car, it would be safe for all of us to have very high expectations.
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Subaru to separate WRX / STI performance models from Impreza

Subaru separates WRX / STI performance models from Impreza, Get Own Platform by 2013
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Later this year, Subaru will officially remove the "Impreza" name from the WRX and STI. The thought process here is that focusing the Impreza line on fuel economy (30 mpg combined) and interior space (2 inches more leg room) is more important these days than associating the newly redesigned sedan with the high-performance WRX and STI versions.

On the other side of the equation, this will allow Subaru to add features and tailor marketing more appropriately for a car in this price range.

The division of Impreza and WRX/STI will grow in 2013 when the WRX/STI will split off from the Impreza platform onto one designed for the performance variants.


HA! BMW won't even allow their ///M division to do this.
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I guess they are selling so well that they can actually split the WRX from the impreza line-up.

People think that this way we will get the STi coupe again. I just hope that they make it smaller in size It makes me sad how cars get bigger by the year. Even the miata is not small anymore....
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To bring back the Sti coupe would be awesome news.
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Next-Gen Subaru WRX to Get Turbo 2.0-Liter Targeting 270 hp
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Why the downsizing? We can only assume fuel economy has something to do with it. The current WRX manages 19 mpg city and 25 mpg highway on the EPA cycle. Subaru recently announced the naturally aspirated FA20 should achieve 30 mpg highway.

The announcement of this new engine is also in line with statements the company made at the launch of the 2012 Impreza sedan and 5-door, the vehicle upon which the WRX should be based. At that time, Subaru said that it was planning for greater separation between Impreza and WRX models. Currently the Impreza uses a 2.0-liter flat four from the FB family of engines found in the Forester SUV and other models. This engine does not feature the same compact dimensions, 86 mm x 86 mm bore and stroke, or complex D4S port/direct injection technology as the FA20 engine.
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Good move, was the logical step to take after the extra work that went into the shared engine.
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I cant believe it.... the STI will be based on this model impreza.... which is even taller, and has a longer wheelbase......

WTF......
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Who the **** designed the new gen. Because it looks like ****.
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I cant believe it.... the STI will be based on this model impreza.... which is even taller, and has a longer wheelbase......

WTF......
Well, it's their direction since they really do not want the car to "market-wise" compete with the BR-Z.

I, for one, concur with you and want a freaken 22B back. If subaru bring out a wrx sti coupe, I'd rather buy that than the BR-Z since I already own 2 RWD sport cars.
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Ahh. So Subie went into the deal with Toyota not for the BRZ but for the D4S port/direct injection tech for the new WRX. No wonder Subie isn't planning on selling many BRZ's. And also why they won't turbo the BRZ. The WRX gets the turbo. Smart. Toyota gets a new sports car and Subie gets an new economical mill for their sports car (WRX). It all comes clear.
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We already know that Subaru plans to market the next generation of the WRX and WRX STI as standalone vehicles, allowing the go-fast models to move upmarket. We are now back on the subject, as Subaru is deciding the fate of the models these days.

As for what’s under the hood, the vehicles could use a refreshed, turbocharged version of the naturally-aspirated 2.5-liter engine, with earlier reports indicating a hp rating of 300. Subaru could also introduce a CVT gearbox - a less than desirable move, if you ask us - as the carmaker’s CVT has recently been adapted to handle the torque of diesel engines, so it could face this challenge.
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lol cvt in a sports car? Terrible.
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Subaru’s performance hero could pioneer ground-breaking turbo technology.

A ground-breaking new electrically-powered turbocharger could feature on the next edition of Subaru's hero performance car, the WRX, when it finally arrives towards the end of next year.

Respected US website motortrend.com says Subaru took out a patent on an electrically-operated turbo in 2007. An unnamed source has told the website that Subaru's parent company, Fuji Heavy Industries, is working to trap heat energy from exhaust gases, generating electricity to power the turbo.

It is believed this would eradicate complicated piping traditionally associated with turbocharging and create power more efficiently with less turbo lag.

Subaru Australia spokesman David Rowley says it is the latest of many rumours swirling around the company's much-anticipated hero cars, the WRX and WRX STi.
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If true, very cool. Would reduce the heat damage to the engine as well. Love the R&D car companies are doing these days. MPG laws finally got them off their azzes and thinking.
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