Ragnorak Racing Thor Body Dyno Test

[Ragnorak Racing]

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[george]

wow..anymore info on this product like pricing and release date?

[Ragnorak Racing]

Originally Posted by george

wow..anymore info on this product like pricing and release date?

Production run is being made at present and I will be shipping in 2 weeks. The price is $375.00 with a core exchange and includes free shipping back to me of your stock piece.

[240MAX]

Great results Brett !!!!
Did you test it on a flow bench (in cfm) before and after the upgrade?
IF yes what where the gains?
Can you post the dyno of the torque graph?

[importfreak8]

nice to see... so this is a completely new tb? with the core exchange, do you need us to send you ours? the reason i ask is because you said

Originally Posted by Ragnorak Racing

This is our modified stock throttle body

which im assuming that you modifyed the stock tb. sorry if these questions seem alittle of, but im just curious. thanks

[gtspaul2zzge]

I had the great pleasure of spending the day at SRM in San Rafael, Ca. with Brett from Ragnorak Racing, and Beau from SRM. I am very impressed with everything.

My car was used for testing the new throttle body. We had great results from such a minor component. As you read in Brett's post we realized 4hp from just installing the TB. After a small amount of tuning, an additional 3hp was made. There are no losses in the entire rpm range. Also worth mentioning, a torque increase of @ 10ftlb at 3500rpm after tuning.

Needless to say, my car feels much stronger. Unfortunatly I sat in the rain in traffic the entire way home, and it's currently raining, so hitting high cam was not going to happen. Driveability in traffic is unaffected, If anything it's better.

Hopefully with Brett's help (after the release of future products) it will be easily possible for any Gt-s to reach the 200whp mark.

Thanks again Brett, it's very much appreciated.
Congrats on the TB

[GT_RyderZ]

can you post some pics?

[jav8or]

great job man, good news for guys like me who are trying to hit the 200whp mark

i have a couple of question
would it be possible for you to ship your unit, i install it on my car, and then give you my old tb. just so i could drive my car while the exchange was going to take place

and lastly is it hard to install
thanx
p.s.
ugh ugh.............cams?.....ugh ugh.
Who said that?

[many]

Great work Brett!!
Paul, now we need to see the dynos!!!!

[Ragnorak Racing]

Hello guys,
Thanks for the kind words. We really are trying to get you guys some nice products that are long overdue for this car. The TB exchange program is once you receive my throttle body you simply remove your stock piece(takes 10-15 minutes) replace it with my throttle body and ship your stock one back to me. You will receive a UPS label with your new Ragnorak Racing throttle body. Simply place your old one in a box, securely wrapping it first of course, and use the label provided to get it back to me. You will have 10 business days to return the stock one back to me, otherwise I assume you want to keep it and will charge a core fee of $300. Better to ship your stock one back! Pictures are on my site at:

http://www.ragnorakracing.com/catalo...46/1889159.htm


Brett.

[Ragnorak Racing]

Originally Posted by many

Great work Brett!!
Paul, now we need to see the dynos!!!!

Thanks Manny!! Could not have done it without your help!

Dyno plots coming.

[narcolepsy12345]

will this also work with the gt???

[danGTS]

Originally Posted by Ragnorak Racing

Thanks Manny!! Could not have done it without youyr help!

Dyno plots coming.

Well, I think it is worth mentioning 240max also here bud ...

Nevertheless, good job but I am also really interested in dyno figures and flowbench numbers (in cfm). Those would show a lot on your design.

Keep the good parts coming out for us!!

[Ragnorak Racing]

Originally Posted by danGTS

Well, I think it is worth mentioning 240max also here bud ...

Nevertheless, good job but I am also really interested in dyno figures and flowbench numbers (in cfm). Those would show a lot on your design.

Keep the good parts coming out for us!!

Manny sent me the email that started me on this path. That's why I thanked him. As for flow numbers I have them but I would rather not release them at this stage as some things have to stay proprietary for the time being. I will release those numbers at a later date. Trying to load up the dyno plots tonight.

[Ragnorak Racing]

Originally Posted by narcolepsy12345

will this also work with the gt???

I think the GT has a different TB?

[GT_RyderZ]

i'm assuming this TB doesn't works with DBW cars, right?

[gtspaul2zzge]

The TB is only for cars without DBW.

[Speed4TheNeed]

So when can I send out some $$ for this? The sonner the better.

[VladsGTS]

so its 300$ and our stock TB?

[mnbvcxz]

will it match up to the intake manifold, or do we have to port match it?

[itchyvi3t]

"Dyno pruven 7 wheel horsepower gain with tuning!"


just to let you know

[Ragnorak Racing]

Originally Posted by itchyvi3t

"Dyno pruven 7 wheel horsepower gain with tuning!"


just to let you know

Thanks for the spellcheck...I think my spelling is getting worse by the day...

[Ragnorak Racing]

Originally Posted by mnbvcxz

will it match up to the intake manifold, or do we have to port match it?

We ran it today without a ported intake manifold. Next week we will run it again with our ported manifold, and matched gasket. Then our redesigned intake manifold after that!

[Ragnorak Racing]

Originally Posted by VladsGTS

so its 300$ and our stock TB?

$375.00 which includes shipping from you to me of your used stock unit. The core fee of $300 will only be charged if you do not ship me back your stock throttle body within 10 business days of receivng my Thor Body upgrade.

[Kenbx84]

so its 375 if we dont return our throttle body...and if we do return it we get back 300$...so its only 75$ total for the port job?? Just confirimg this...if this is the case when can i purchase this

[Ragnorak Racing]

Originally Posted by Kenbx84

so its 375 if we dont return our throttle body...and if we do return it we get back 300$...so its only 75$ total for the port job?? Just confirimg this...if this is the case when can i purchase this

No. The throttle body is $375.00. If you do not return your stock throttle body to me you will be charged another $300, for $675.00 total. The stock throttle body costs $800.00 from your Toyota dealer.

[rotchcrocket04]

Originally Posted by Ragnorak Racing

No. The throttle body is $375.00. If you do not return your stock throttle body to me you will be charged another $300, for $675.00 total. The stock throttle body costs $800.00 from your Toyota dealer.

wait so you want $800? lol im kidding sorry guys....

this is def. some exciting news... im interested most in what paul had to say about...

Originally Posted by gtspaul2zzge

Also worth mentioning, a torque increase of @ 10ftlb at 3500rpm after tuning.

so after a quick tune you were producing +7whp and +10tq?!
any idea of what tq numbers you were producing before the tune?

as most of you know, these cars would be so much nicer with a few extra ftlbs of tq... thats got my attention! awesome work guys, def something to be excited about

[Sylver1]

Now my questions are:
What kind of power will it give on a stock ecu?
My intake is smaller than the stock throttle body, will this kill the effect of the bigger throttle body?
What is expected to be next, header or cams?

[Ragnorak Racing]

Originally Posted by Sylver1

Now my questions are:
What kind of power will it give on a stock ecu?
My intake is smaller than the stock throttle body, will this kill the effect of the bigger throttle body?
What is expected to be next, header or cams?

We have not tested it on a stock ecu to see how it reacts. I would expect similar gains (4whp) without any tuning. Which intake do you have that is smaller than the stock throttle body?

[Sylver1]

K&N 57i-9000 SRI. Its only sold in Europe, and its for the gt, thats why its smaller, but I also have no bogging cuz it keeps the air velocity up.

[Sylver1]

Its also as loud as a kazuma cat-back.

[SeeULater]

Does it come with the IAC motor on the bottom of the throttle body or do we need to swap that too??

[ninegts]

i think it'd be pretty close to 200whp with a TPR intake and ported header. very interesting.

[rotchcrocket04]

Originally Posted by Ragnorak Racing

We have not tested it on a stock ecu to see how it reacts. I would expect similar gains (4whp) without any tuning. Which intake do you have that is smaller than the stock throttle body?

since im not planning on running a PFC anytime soon i would be interested in dyno gains with possibly just i/e and stock ECU of course.

[ZBoyce]

Oh, I WILL be getting one of these.

[gerteix]

Any special consideration for other countries celica owners? i mean, it will be very difficult and expensive for me to ship my TB to you.
Any future group buys on this? or are you going to do only one at a time?
Are you going to accept payment through paypal?

Thanks.

[Kenbx84]

Originally Posted by rotchcrocket04

since im not planning on running a PFC anytime soon i would be interested in dyno gains with possibly just i/e and stock ECU of course.

I'd hop on this also after they test it on a stock ecu

[gtspaul2zzge]

Originally Posted by rotchcrocket04

wait so you want $800? lol im kidding sorry guys....

this is def. some exciting news... im interested most in what paul had to say about...



so after a quick tune you were producing +7whp and +10tq?!
any idea of what tq numbers you were producing before the tune?

as most of you know, these cars would be so much nicer with a few extra ftlbs of tq... thats got my attention! awesome work guys, def something to be excited about

Yeah, keep in mind that's not peak torque numbers. That's at @ 3500rpm, which really makes the car feel a lot better. IMO that's where the car needs it most. Also keep in mind that was after tuning a little bit. Without tuning, it was pretty much the same as hp figures. . . @4 in the same rpm ranges, for torque and hp.

[gtspaul2zzge]

The butt dyno says yes!

RPMs seem to climb much quicker.

Seriously guys, jump on this. . . Brett has more tricks up his sleeve, and this is like testing the waters. So much more to come.

He proves there is hope for us NA 2zz lovers.

[danGTS]

Not that I am interested for my car on performances w/o a tunable pfc but .. I would not assume this mod is an instant 3-4 whp with stock ecu unless dyno prooven .. The stock ecu adjusts itself a lot, so we never know how it will react exactly..

You should make the test if you have a chance, the ecu takes 2 minutes to swap so it is really easy test ..

I am also interested in the effect on A/F ratio of your mod ..

[Speed4TheNeed]

Just how modified is the original throttle body? I'm interested in buying it but I'm going to be PO'd if i send out over $300 and it winds up being something I could have easily done myself without special equipment/tools.

I don't mind paying for labor and of course everyone should make a profit on their investment, but I'd feel much better if it was something I couldn't easily do myself VS something that's a no-brainer.

[SteveO000000001]

what MM is it bored out too?

[Sylver1]

I think it 68mm.

[Speed4TheNeed]

Originally Posted by danGTS

I am also interested in the effect on A/F ratio of your mod ..

[6speedGTS]

Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed

Just how modified is the original throttle body? I'm interested in buying it but I'm going to be PO'd if i send out over $300 and it winds up being something I could have easily done myself without special equipment/tools.

From the looks of it you just need a lathe and a milling machine. With the trade in, I would spend the $300. Less of a hassle.

[gtspaul2zzge]

From what Brett told me, the TB is CNC machined. Also a Butterfly valve needed to be constructed for the larger bore.

[vegeta4ss]

i want one

[YoG628]

this really needs to be dynoed on a stock celica as mentioned in the above post. if the gains are the same then im definetly interested

[Ragnorak Racing]

Originally Posted by YoG628

this really needs to be dynoed on a stock celica as mentioned in the above post. if the gains are the same then im definetly interested

Don't expect the same gains on a stock Celica. If the car has the same mods as Paul's then I would hope for the same gains, untuned as we got which was 4whp. I would not do the throttle body without already having at least an upgraded intake.

Brett.

[SteveO000000001]

SOunds like you guys found out that a bored out tb will make gains on the 2zz..i kno my h23 honda had some pretty good gains.

I definately plan on getting the stock one bored out at some point..