|
| Install Guides | Parts Catalog | Gallery | Track Times | Dyno Database | Tech Info | Gear | ||
|
|||||||
| Register | FAQ | Members List | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read | |||
| Celicas For Sale | |||||||||
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
|
#1 |
|
Moderator
|
Progress on New flowbench
Since I talk about it a bunch I figured I would share the progress with you guys.
We started of with a design of our own based on a ton of research we did on commercially available benches and DIY benches. This was the first concept for the motor box which is designed to house 16 commercial grade motors from either central vacuum systems or industrial grade high capacity shop vacs. After some more brainstorming and more consideration of the design measurements we decided to change it to reduce the total height and build this instead: This is a pitot tube style bench - it uses a reference pressure and impact pressure in a tube of calibrated diameter to arrive at airflow.
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
#2 |
|
Moderator
|
Now here are some pictures of the flowbench progress. Its exciting to move from the design and fabrication of parts to the actual assembly stage. The frame was sandblasted last weekend and has been painted with 2 coats of rustoleum bare metal primer. The MDF panels will get KILZ oil based primer and then an oil based paint to prevent moisture intrusion.
Early fabrication: Floors and Flapper Panels Installed: Closeup of part of sliding valve assembly in pressure box: Current state - Motor panels installed: The blower box panels will all be held on by liquid nail and screws, or for the serviceable panels, bolts, washers, and silicone.
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
| Sponsored Links | |
|
Google
Support the Forums |
|
|
|
#4 | |
|
Moderator
|
Quote:
It also gives us the flexibility to run just one bank of motors and completely idle the other bank with it sealed out of the equation, which will mostly be useful in finding a dead motor or a leak.
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#5 |
|
Future 2ZZ-GZE member...
|
Cool stuff, I wish I was more of an engineer/calculus type person than a bio type...
You going to start testing on the 2zz head you got soon?
__________________
![]() 03 Celica GT-S, 6 Speed Manual, Carbon Blue >=) Performance Mods: eBay Intake, TWM Short Shifter, Kumosport Shifter Base Bushings |
|
|
|
|
|
#6 |
|
GBOSH!
|
Good news! I know you've been itching to get that thing going.
__________________
![]() Apexi - AEM - ACT - Fidanza - RS*R - Nitrous Express - Hotchkis - TWM - SpeedSource - Tanabe - Koni - Polydyn - Boosted Performance - Cusco - Optima - Autometer - VIS - TYC - Beatrush - Enkei - Nitto - TRD - Streetglow - RJ Autoworks - LEDMod - PIAA - Alpine - MTX - Dynamat |
|
|
|
|
|
#7 | |
|
Moderator
|
Quote:
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#8 |
|
213WHP N/A 2zz
|
be sure to let us know when u get the heads ready for selling to us
i might get a ported one from you after i order my mwr engine.
__________________
![]() Need Denso 440cc injectors for your N/A beast? I'm your man.
Celicasaur wishlist for 2010: Boosted2.0 Race IMBy a new damn front lip!C-One short ratio gearsDirect-Port Nitrous - 100 shot Goals for 2010: 225whp N/A - 400whp with nitrous |
|
|
|
|
|
#11 |
|
Registered User
|
Been wondering when you were going to bring this up agian, and I'm glad you did. I hope your prices for head porting and such will be alongside your great header pricing. I'm so pleased with your header and even the tx7 I got from you I know you wont let us down.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#12 | |
|
Moderator
|
Quote:
![]() It will be fair though - I base everything I do on how long something actually takes plain and simple. If it turns out it only takes 10 hours then its not going to cost very much compared to most places. If its 20 hours per head then I'll be in line with what you've seen out there already. If its 30 hours then I will be more expensive. We'll just have to wait and see. There are other things besides cylinder head porting this can help with though. This bench is a monster - I will be able to flow test CAIs, air filters, intake manifolds, exhaust manifolds, throttle bodies, etc.
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
Last edited by Boosted2.0 : 03-02-2007 at 06:56 AM. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#13 |
|
Newcelica daycare
|
Nice, keep it up.
__________________
![]() 2000 GT-S: SRI, Ported IM & Head, MWR Valves, ARP Studs, ES inserts, Ported Header, Custom Exhaust, 215/45R17. 1998 Camry: 2.2L of plain vanilla grocery getting fury. 1984 Toyota Crown: 6M-GE swap in progress. 3" Intake, Ported TB, P&P Head, Pacesetter Header, Custom Exhaust. 2010 Yaris sedan: Work dog (emphasis on dog) that is a rat favorite. |
|
|
|
|
|
#16 |
|
Registered User
|
wow very nice
but you better hurry becuase June is coming and then there will be no time it will be hard especially at night when you have to wake up every 3hr LOL
__________________
05 Matrix XRS Indigo Ink Pearl Progress RSB, TRD STB, Custom Borla 2.5" Exhaust, PPE header, Tein SS, TWM SS, Injen CAI, JDM helical LSD from spyder, RPS Max/Street, C-One Type R Flywheel, ES Motor Mounts, 18" Volks GT-S, HYDRA EMS
|
|
|
|
|
|
#17 |
|
Moderator
|
It will be done very soon - hopefully after this weekend all that will be left is to let the paint dry and then hook up all the pressure ports to the computer
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
#19 |
|
Moderator
|
Well the primer is on and the paint is on but DAMN oil based paint takes a long time to dry. Had to use it to seal against moisture though.
we designed and built the settling box last weekend (no steel frame - just MDF and 2x4s) Hopefully this weekend we will be able to assemble it and get the plumbing finished. I have to go to the dyno with Swingfixer on Saturday though to tune his car.
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
#20 |
|
Project #1 All Motor
|
Will this thing be ready for when lilrocket finishes my engine?
__________________
Engine: MWR Stroker kit [Crower rods, Wiseco 12.5:1 pistons, Darton dry sleeves, Toyota 1zz crank], Piper stage II camshafts, Supertech valves, Eibach valve springs, Circuitworx O/P gear, Moroso oil pan, TRD RACE header, AEM CAI, TRD Kazuma exhaust, MWR main & rod bearing sets, ES motor mount inserts, Hondata IMG, UR crank, water pump, and alternator pullies, APEX'i PFC, TRD thermostat, Koyo Racing radiator, Blitz radiator hose, ARP 2ZZ complete stud set |
|
|
|
|
|
#21 | |
|
Moderator
|
Quote:
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#22 |
|
Project #1 All Motor
|
Awesome
__________________
Engine: MWR Stroker kit [Crower rods, Wiseco 12.5:1 pistons, Darton dry sleeves, Toyota 1zz crank], Piper stage II camshafts, Supertech valves, Eibach valve springs, Circuitworx O/P gear, Moroso oil pan, TRD RACE header, AEM CAI, TRD Kazuma exhaust, MWR main & rod bearing sets, ES motor mount inserts, Hondata IMG, UR crank, water pump, and alternator pullies, APEX'i PFC, TRD thermostat, Koyo Racing radiator, Blitz radiator hose, ARP 2ZZ complete stud set |
|
|
|
|
|
#23 |
|
Moderator
|
Here are some updated pictures of the motor box with a bunch of motors hung on it. We have made more progress since this - 5 of the valves are fully installed and the other 4 are ready to go. The flappers are all installed and a couple more permanant panels have been mounted.
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
#24 | |
|
Witegts
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#25 | |
|
Moderator
|
Quote:
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#26 |
|
Future 2ZZ-GZE member...
|
Awesome progress! With everything that you're doing, you really do need more hours in your day!
That's a waste of a skateboard though...mine got ravaged up by the elements when my little sister left it outside...I wish I didn't stop practicing after I got the kickflip down .
__________________
![]() 03 Celica GT-S, 6 Speed Manual, Carbon Blue >=) Performance Mods: eBay Intake, TWM Short Shifter, Kumosport Shifter Base Bushings |
|
|
|
|
|
#27 |
|
Moderator
|
Here are some more pics of the current state of affairs:
Motor box propression pics: [img]http:/www.controlledinertia.com/Portals/0/396/More%20motors%20-%20three%20to%20go.JPG[/img]
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
#28 |
|
Moderator
|
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
#30 | |
|
Moderator
|
Quote:
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#31 |
|
Registered User
|
nice.
so what is the first part that you going to flow bench? header/intake manifold?
__________________
05 Matrix XRS Indigo Ink Pearl Progress RSB, TRD STB, Custom Borla 2.5" Exhaust, PPE header, Tein SS, TWM SS, Injen CAI, JDM helical LSD from spyder, RPS Max/Street, C-One Type R Flywheel, ES Motor Mounts, 18" Volks GT-S, HYDRA EMS
|
|
|
|
|
|
#32 | |
|
Moderator
|
Quote:
After that a head
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#35 |
|
Future 2ZZ-GZE member...
|
Hows this coming along? I know you would like to use this for that NA built Elise on elisetalk.com.
__________________
![]() 03 Celica GT-S, 6 Speed Manual, Carbon Blue >=) Performance Mods: eBay Intake, TWM Short Shifter, Kumosport Shifter Base Bushings |
|
|
|
|
|
#36 | |
|
Moderator
|
Quote:
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#38 |
|
Moderator
|
Its Finished!!!
We still have to mess with the hoses from the pitots to the FP1 a bit and troubleshoot a leak on the 3" range, but it works and works well! Here are the final pictures: Control valves for the pitots and static pickups The flow ranges with the self averaging pitots and static pickups in them The computer thats hooked to the FP1 The whole shootin match
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
#40 |
|
Boosted Duo!!
|
^^That is why he has those dinky little computer speakers so he can listen to music
__________________
Kept up the philosophy of nice balance between Aesthetic and Power mods Sold the 2000 Black Veilside GT-Turbo + 1991 Panda MR2 turbo now drives 2007 Subaru Impreza
|
|
|
|
|
|
#42 |
|
Registered User
|
Very short explaination. It monitors how much air flows through various parts, head, TB, intake and exhaust manifolds. It helps determine where and how much material to remove for better flow (CFM). You may ruin the first few heads or manifolds till you see where to remove the metal, but you will learn where to remove the metal. You can't just hog out metal. You have to keep a good, smooth flow. An engine is a big air pump. The more air it flows, the more fuel you can add, the more power the engine will produce. Hope this helps, if you get real interested Google flow bench and read up on the art of using one.
__________________
Worlds first Rotrexed 2zz Spyder. Thanks Bill (WEB3.0) 311 RWHP 198 RWTQ It's great being blown. |
|
|
|
|
|
#43 |
|
1ZZ-FTE
|
An air flow bench is a device used for testing the internal aerodynamic qualities of an engine component and is related to the more familiar wind tunnel.
Used primarily for testing the intake and exhaust ports of cylinder heads of internal combustion engines. It is also used to test the flow capabilities of any component such as air filters, carburetors, manifolds or any other part that is required to flow gas. It is one of the primary tools of high performance engine builders and porting cylinder heads would be strictly hit or miss without it. Wikipedia -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_flow_bench
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
|
#44 |
|
Moderator
|
^^^^^
What they said ![]() In its most simplified sense its a giant air pump with a computereized metering device that monitors airflow. The one we built can suck or flow in excess of 1000 CFM (Cubic feet of air per minute). To give you an idea, a 3" tube flows a bit over 700 CFM at 28" of vacuum (standard test pressure). So I can test CAIs, exhaust components, manifolds, throttle bodies, etc. The way it works is you set the pressure you want to test at and measure flow through a component (I have a computer controlled pressure regulator). Then you modify that component (port it, or replace it with one of another hopefully superior design) and you test it under the same pressure, which will let you know how much the flow has increased. You also have to pay attention to air speed as well as flow, which means using the flowbench in conjunction with a device called a pitot tube that is inserted into various areas of the item you are flow testing to test flow in a specific area. Since air is compressible it doesn't flow around bends evenly, and this data is very important for mapping where the bulk of the air is going through a component so you can pay attention to that area, as well as for the reason that if you kill airspeed off too much on at least the inlet to a head, you can wind up with poor fuel mixture with the air in the cylidner.
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
#45 | |
|
Moderator
|
Quote:
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#47 | ||
|
1ZZ-FTE
|
Quote:
__________________
|
||
|
|
|
|
|
#48 | |||
|
Moderator
|
Quote:
__________________
Now offering: 2ZZ Performance Intake Manifold | 2ZZ Ported Headers | 2ZZ Ported Cylinder Heads | PowerFC Harnesses for DBW and Auto 2ZZ | MR2 Spyder 2ZZ Swap Kits | Engine Builds | Turbo / Supercharger installation | Tuning Sales Inquiries: Sales@DDPerformanceResearch.com Technical Inquiries: Technical@DDPerformanceResearch.com
|
|||
|
|
|
|
|
#49 |
|
Boosted Duo!!
|
^^Just remember to put a copyright logo on it just as a precaution.
__________________
Kept up the philosophy of nice balance between Aesthetic and Power mods Sold the 2000 Black Veilside GT-Turbo + 1991 Panda MR2 turbo now drives 2007 Subaru Impreza
|
|
|
|
![]() |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
||||||
|
|