Upgraded Tranny Installed: Pro-Torque converter, IPT Valve body, and Monkeygrip

[bloodytiger]

I finally got my upgraded tranny installed(Pro-Torque converter, IPT Valve body, and Monkeygrip), I haven't power launched it yet (have to break in my monkeygrip a couple hundred mile before hard launches) but I cant wait. The shifts are a lot tighter, when I really get on it and my car shifts it feels like my tires spin out a little bit. Even when im driving normally(low rpms) 1st gear gives a hard shift which is kind of annoying but I can live with it. Also im a little disappointed with my pro-torque converter because it only stalls at about 2600-2700rpm's maybe one day in the future ill get a different one.

[CalPencil]

Tell me how much it cost you and the performance you're feeling... because I feel this is the only upgrade that is worth doing for my car.

[bloodytiger]

IPT Valvebody ($600) Pro-torque Converter ($437) MonkeyGrip ($220) Total $1257, but this does not include labor charges, ATF, new gaskets, etc. Also you need to get a tranny cooler because this badboy heats up( IPT sells them), I have one I just havnt installed it yet.

If you like the smooth shifting of you car now dont get the valvebody, every time you switch from 1st to 2nd it gives a little tug. But if you dont think this would bother you then go for it, when you really get on it it feels good when it shift. Like I said at the top when it shifts it feels like the wheels peel out a little.

[jordan71]

pretty sexy bro. i like it alot. gonna have to let us know more when u break it in some.

[CalPencil]

how many labor hours were charged to you just for the torque convertor exhange?

So it would have been $437 + oil cooler + labor hours.

So would that be roughly $600 total? Just for the torque convertor install?

[white02gt-s]

prolly more like 700 or 800. labor is expensive and it takes more than like an hour to take the tranny out and change the tc and put it back in. prolly more like almost three maybe four. and shops generally charge between 85 to 100 per hour for labor.

[youngxlos]

why not just get a manual tranny??

[white02gt-s]

very good question. i mean i know some people prefer auto for drag racing esp since modern autos can shift so fast it doesnt make a difference but i would always prefer to have a manual in my car.

[CalPencil]

Because I want an Auto.... this thread is for people who have Auto's and wish to upgrade
I don't think we need to continue to hear the 'Just switch to manual' debate over and over again.

We already know. It's a route some people just won't decide to take.

[bloodytiger]

Originally Posted by jordan71

pretty sexy bro. i like it alot. gonna have to let us know more when u break it in some.

Trust me, im going to let you guys know

Originally Posted by CalPencil

how many labor hours were charged to you just for the torque convertor exhange?

So it would have been $437 + oil cooler + labor hours.

So would that be roughly $600 total? Just for the torque convertor install?

Yea its going to be more then that im sure, because you have to take out the whole tranny. For a tranny swap here where I work they charge 6.5 Hours labor( according to AllData) and the hour rate is $65 so 6.5hr x $65= about $420 and thats just labor. So your looking at about $870 for the TQ, Tranny Cooler, and Labor.

[Boosted2.0]

You planning on going turbo eventually or just staying NA?

[bloodytiger]

Originally Posted by Boosted2.0

You planning on going turbo eventually or just staying NA?

Hopefully one day but not in the near future.

[white02gt-s]

Originally Posted by CalPencil

It's a route some people just won't decide to take.

yeah the people who dont know how to drive or drive indy cars or super high powered drag cars.

[youngxlos]

Originally Posted by white02gt-s

very good question. i mean i know some people prefer auto for drag racing esp since modern autos can shift so fast it doesnt make a difference but i would always prefer to have a manual in my car.

not really, even with all this mods a manual trans would probably be the better route. the only reason i would spend money on a auto trans is if i had a boosted supra making 1200whp.
ill stop there good luck bro

[white02gt-s]

yeah read the post just one up above yours youngxlos. thats basically what i was saying. but good to know you share the same views

[Toxygene]

Any updates?

I'm curious as my wife drives the Celi and I'm curious just how much harder it tugs for that 1st gear switch? Do you notice it at all speeds or only at full throttle? What does the Stall converter on it's own do for you?

[bloodytiger]

Originally Posted by Toxygene

I'm curious as my wife drives the Celi and I'm curious just how much harder it tugs for that 1st gear switch? Do you notice it at all speeds or only at full throttle? What does the Stall converter on it's own do for you?

Well I would not suggest the valve body for your wife, well I guess I dont know your wife but I still wouldn't suggest it. If you accelerate slowly it will kick harder, but if you give it some gas( not too much) then it shift smoother but still not as smooth as stock. Also when you come to a stop it kind off jerks a little. If someone would drive your car and they didnt know about it they would with out a doubt think there is something wrong with your car. As for the torque converter it stalls at around 2800rpm I wish it was higher but it still launches better then before.

[Funke]

did you know about the IPT A/T Boost controller?

allows you to adjust the shift feel. I'll definately be inquiring about it when i get my VB done.

[jlitman]

Originally Posted by Funke

did you know about the IPT A/T Boost controller?

allows you to adjust the shift feel. I'll definately be inquiring about it when i get my VB done.

Never heard of this -- does it let you adjust how fast line pressure builds?

[bloodytiger]

Originally Posted by Funke

did you know about the IPT A/T Boost controller?

allows you to adjust the shift feel. I'll definately be inquiring about it when i get my VB done.

I havn't heard of it, but i'll look into it

[bloodytiger]

I looked on there website but all I could find was IPT Electro-Matic Manual Controller, but thats so you can manually shift your auto. Can manually shifting your auto really help all that much?

[b1m3x8]

I used to have a manual valve body in my neon years ago. It made my auto so much fun. You couldn't go back to auto with it though. With the manual valve body you can let off the gas before you shift and it won't shift as hard. If you can get that controller, do it.

[x310gtsx]

any n drops yet? haha

ps: cant u adjust the shift feel by tightening the tranny cable next to the throttle cable? i had a maxima that had a rebuilt tranny and i tightened that cable(was right next to the throttle cable) and it would chirp tires in the 1-2 shift, i doubt its the same for the celi tho....

[bloodytiger]

Originally Posted by x310gtsx

any n drops yet? haha

neutral bombing is a no no

[Toxygene]

Originally Posted by bloodytiger

Well I would not suggest the valve body for your wife, well I guess I dont know your wife but I still wouldn't suggest it. If you accelerate slowly it will kick harder, but if you give it some gas( not too much) then it shift smoother but still not as smooth as stock. Also when you come to a stop it kind off jerks a little. If someone would drive your car and they didnt know about it they would with out a doubt think there is something wrong with your car. As for the torque converter it stalls at around 2800rpm I wish it was higher but it still launches better then before.

So maybe just the MonkeyGrip and the torque converter for her. What does the stock convert stall at? Also, Funke do you have to ask about the Boost controller to get it or is it listed on their site? Who makes that?

[FITGT]

Originally Posted by bloodytiger

I looked on there website but all I could find was IPT Electro-Matic Manual Controller, but thats so you can manually shift your auto. Can manually shifting your auto really help all that much?

Yup. I thought the main problem with auto is the fact you only have 4 gears! and a little bit more power loss.

[Funke]

It is for the Mitsubishi line of auto trans but worth inquiring about....


September 2005

IPT Performance Transmissions announces the new A/T Boost Controller
Vary shift firmness instantly with the turn of a dial!

After over one year of testing, IPT is now releasing The A/T Boost Controller.

The A/T Boost Controller works by intercepting the signal between the TCU and transmission, thereby giving the driver the ability to select the shift quality that is appropriate for the given driving conditions.

This 3” X 4” black box can be mounted in the cockpit or under the hood and provides the user with four different levels of shift feel.

1. OFF- stock TCU signal (pass through mode)
2. Moderate- extra shift feel for daily driving
3. Heavy Duty- firm shifts for racing or 'spirited' street use
4. Race Only- max pressure- not recommended for continuous street driving


The A/T Boost Controller works in conjunction with a shift kit, a performance transmission or as a stand alone unit with no other modifications.

IPT Automatic Transmission Boost Controller


More details are available here:
http://www.importperformancetrans.co...ishiauto.shtml

[Funke]

Originally Posted by bloodytiger

I looked on there website but all I could find was IPT Electro-Matic Manual Controller, but thats so you can manually shift your auto. Can manually shifting your auto really help all that much?

I'm in Oz and the Celica here only has the 2zz ge and either 6 spd manual or 4 spd SMT - Sequential manual transmission.

Do you guys have that?....basically a manual shift option for the auto.

[bloodytiger]

Originally Posted by Funke

It is for the Mitsubishi line of auto trans but worth inquiring about....

That sound interesting, im going to email them and see if they have it for our celicas

Originally Posted by Funke

I'm in Oz and the Celica here only has the 2zz ge and either 6 spd manual or 4 spd SMT - Sequential manual transmission.

Do you guys have that?....basically a manual shift option for the auto.

Yea the GT-S(2zz) automatic has it but not the GT(1zz) automatic

[jlitman]

Originally Posted by Funke

It is for the Mitsubishi line of auto trans but worth inquiring about....


September 2005

IPT Performance Transmissions announces the new A/T Boost Controller
Vary shift firmness instantly with the turn of a dial!

After over one year of testing, IPT is now releasing The A/T Boost Controller.

The A/T Boost Controller works by intercepting the signal between the TCU and transmission, thereby giving the driver the ability to select the shift quality that is appropriate for the given driving conditions.

This 3” X 4” black box can be mounted in the cockpit or under the hood and provides the user with four different levels of shift feel.

1. OFF- stock TCU signal (pass through mode)
2. Moderate- extra shift feel for daily driving
3. Heavy Duty- firm shifts for racing or 'spirited' street use
4. Race Only- max pressure- not recommended for continuous street driving


The A/T Boost Controller works in conjunction with a shift kit, a performance transmission or as a stand alone unit with no other modifications.

IPT Automatic Transmission Boost Controller


More details are available here:
http://www.importperformancetrans.co...ishiauto.shtml

That's cool, but not sure if the ECU would give a CEL.

[bloodytiger]

Originally Posted by jlitman

That's cool, but not sure if the ECU would give a CEL.

Yea, that is true. Stock ECU is a whinny little b!tch

[Funke]

What do you reckon TCU is? Traction Control?

[reguile]

Not trying to jack your thread, but is that monkeygrip install the same as a lsd?

[bloodytiger]

Originally Posted by Funke

What do you reckon TCU is? Traction Control?

Originally Posted by reguile

Not trying to jack your thread, but is that monkeygrip install the same as a lsd?

Yea something like that, its the only alternative for celica automatics as of right now. A true LSD is better im sure, because it transfers 50% of power to each wheel.

[reguile]

Cause I plan to be getting that too when I get a new clutch/flywheel. Yes, I've been saying that I've been needing a clutch for sometime now, keep running into other problems though. Well, I don't really plan on turbo'ing my car or anything within the next 3 years but I still want somewhat of an LSD performance in my car.

[x310gtsx]

is anything else needed to do the monkeygrip install? do u need a tranny cooler or need to do up the valve body to make it safe to run on an otherwise stock auto tranny?

[bloodytiger]

Originally Posted by reguile

Cause I plan to be getting that too when I get a new clutch/flywheel. Yes, I've been saying that I've been needing a clutch for sometime now, keep running into other problems though. Well, I don't really plan on turbo'ing my car or anything within the next 3 years but I still want somewhat of an LSD performance in my car.

If I where you I would look into a true LSD, the only reason I didn't was because I couldn't.

Originally Posted by x310gtsx

is anything else needed to do the monkeygrip install? do u need a tranny cooler or need to do up the valve body to make it safe to run on an otherwise stock auto tranny?

No, you can just install the monkeygrip by itself. But you do have to pull out the tranny and take apart the tranny case to get to the differential. If your going to go threw all that trouble you might as well get a higher stall torque converter and the valvebody installed at the same time since the tranny is already out.

[akeem_da_dream]

how come you didnt get the MWR torque converter?

[bloodytiger]

Originally Posted by akeem_da_dream

how come you didnt get the MWR torque converter?

I wasn't sure how high it would stall, I just decided to go with IPT.

[dannysgtcel]

wow you spent over 1400 on a auto trans,I hope your trans last a long time.

[CalPencil]

Originally Posted by dannysgtcel

wow you spent over 1400 on a auto trans,I hope your trans last a long time.

Because you have a manual, that's why you can't really think of the reason why.

[dannysgtcel]

^^no its cause its crazy to spend that much on a auto celica trans.

[bloodytiger]

Yea I did spend quite a bit of money, but at least now I have a tranny built to handle forced induction(Which is my main goal) plus I didn't just withdraw all of the cash at once, I bought everything over a long period of time so it didn't seem to be that much.

[c3ll]

Originally Posted by bloodytiger

Yea something like that, its the only alternative for celica automatics as of right now. A true LSD is better im sure, because it transfers 50% of power to each wheel.

not exactly... quoting from MWR about Quaife Diff: The Quaife Differential powers both drive wheels under nearly all conditions, instead of just one. With an ordinary open differential, standard on most cars, a lot of precious power is wasted during wheelspin under acceleration. This happens because the open differential shifts power to the wheel with less grip (along the path of least resistance). The Quaife, however, does just the opposite. It senses which wheel has the better grip, and biases the power to that wheel. It does this smoothly and constantly, and without ever completely removing power from the other wheel.

In drag-race style, straight-line acceleration runs, this results in a close to ideal 50/50 power split to both drive wheels, resulting in essentially twice the grip of an ordinary differential (they don't call open diffs "peglegs" for nothing).