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Old 04-30-2012, 09:12 PM   #1
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Holy sh*t look what i found!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I almost SH*T myself when i saw this!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRD-supercha...#ht_500wt_1156

I WISH I COULD USE PAYPAL!!!!!!!!! I WOULD HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT IT!!!
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:19 PM   #2
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wish i had the money, to bad we have to get a whole new hood
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:41 PM   #3
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i would want if the gains didnt suckkkkkkk
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i would want if the gains didnt suckkkkkkk
I'd buy it if I didn't have to install that ugly TRD hood for it.
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I'd buy it if I didn't have to install that ugly TRD hood for it.
Angle grinder.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:25 PM   #6
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I'd buy it if I didn't have to install that ugly TRD hood for it.
ahem...AIT hood =P
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I think it would be pretty kewl to maybe cut a hole in the hood so that the charger stuck up threw the hood! Be pretty sick to have people look over and see that thing sticking up threw the hood! That guy is insane for selling it so cheap!!!!
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:54 AM   #8
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It will close over 2 grand I bet,

It's a nice piece though, makes for a REALLY fun daily driver. Wish I had the money :\

Maybe put some sort of window on the hood?

PS: If anybody wants to buy this for me, I'll pay you back with a high five
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:08 AM   #9
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Well it has a buy it now for 1600. I bet that it will go quick.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:43 PM   #10
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not worth it IMO
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^Why do you say that? It is an entire kit for $1600 vs $2500+ for a turbo kit. I think it would be well worth it. I HIGHLY prefer SC over T. More power all the way threw the rev range and more torque all the way threw the revs.
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^Why do you say that? It is an entire kit for $1600 vs $2500+ for a turbo kit. I think it would be well worth it. I HIGHLY prefer SC over T. More power all the way threw the rev range and more torque all the way threw the revs.
For the most part, a turbo will always make more power in the end. SC generally has more consistency and little to no lag.
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well no more buy it now. i just put the 1st bid on it. great find to the OP. let the bidding wars begin
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:59 AM   #14
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Wasn't there one in NC on craigslist for like $600 a couple weeks ago?....Guess I should have drove over there, grabbed it then hawked it on eBay for a profit.

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I think it would be pretty kewl to maybe cut a hole in the hood so that the charger stuck up threw the hood!
There is a picture floating around of a red celica with just this......it looks all kinds of retarded.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:02 AM   #15
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Wasn't there one in NC on craigslist for like $600 a couple weeks ago?....Guess I should have drove over there, grabbed it then hawked it on eBay for a profit
YUP!!!!!

it was on craigslist near NC. i shouldve bought it then sold it! lmao!


i dont see the point of putting a supercharger in a 1zzfe lol. prolly still make same or less power than the 2zz.
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^Why do you say that? It is an entire kit for $1600 vs $2500+ for a turbo kit. I think it would be well worth it. I HIGHLY prefer SC over T. More power all the way threw the rev range and more torque all the way threw the revs.
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because the w/ TRD supercharger, the gains are not worth it and you need to purchase the AIT hood or cut a hole in your stock one.

to my knowledge, no GT with the TRD supercharger has never broken 200whp. its rated at 200hp crank and 170hp at the wheels. plus the supercharger is belt driven and not intercooled. going over 8psi on the s/c will produce a lot of heat.
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For the most part, a turbo will always make more power in the end. SC generally has more consistency and little to no lag.
MR2 spyder with stock 1ZZ and GT2871R on minimum (spring) pressure compared to stock 1ZZ w/ header, high flow cat and magnaflow



What lag?

And thats a GT2871R. You can bolt on a GT25, spool even faster still and still make more power than that SC ever will.
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what lag?

And thats a gt2871r. You can bolt on a gt25, spool even faster still and still make more power than that sc ever will.
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I just prefer supercharged cars over turbo. I have owned 2 SC cars. Currently own Grand Prix GTP. Have owned Monte Carlo SS Supercharged. Just recently sold my Passat 1.8 Turbo. And i use to have a Chevy Cruse RS Turbo. All FUN and FAST cars but i will ALWAYS love SC cars
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Wasn't there one in NC on craigslist for like $600 a couple weeks ago?....Guess I should have drove over there, grabbed it then hawked it on eBay for a profit.
What city was this in? I check craigslist pretty regular and never came across that.
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MR2 spyder with stock 1ZZ and GT2871R on minimum (spring) pressure compared to stock 1ZZ w/ header, high flow cat and magnaflow



What lag?

And thats a GT2871R. You can bolt on a GT25, spool even faster still and still make more power than that SC ever will.
If he was going with the stock 1zz im surprised that he didnt use the 28rs versus the 2871R...either way great curve, and that would be a real fun little MR-2.
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^ Eh, the 2871R leaves some room to "grow into" if he wants to build later on.
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Stock 1zz with gt2860rs


Stock 1zz with I/H/E


Same dyno.......what lag indeed.
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Those are great numbers.
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What city was this in? I check craigslist pretty regular and never came across that.
It was in Charlotte.
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Be careful if any of you guys plan on buying that TRD SC.
Cause his Trader feedback is low and ONLY 2 out of 12 has left him a trader feeback comment.
If you're an ebaY person, you'll know having a high feedback and a positive customer comments is very important.
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be careful if any of you guys plan on buying that trd sc.
Cause his trader feedback is low and only 2 out of 12 has left him a trader feeback comment.
If you're an ebay person, you'll know having a high feedback and a positive customer comments is very important.
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A TRD S/C would be ideal for daily driving IMO. It'd give the car a lot more pep and less maintenance/things to worry about.

Also it's a really simple installation compared to a full blown turbo, and it's TRD designed for the stock motor, which means you're not likely to take the 1zz beyond its limits and blow something up.
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MR2 spyder with stock 1ZZ and GT2871R on minimum (spring) pressure compared to stock 1ZZ w/ header, high flow cat and magnaflow



What lag?

And thats a GT2871R. You can bolt on a GT25, spool even faster still and still make more power than that SC ever will.
I am sure it still has a miniscule lag. It HAS to spool.

Also, maybe you missed "for the most part"
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Hmm so would the reliability be just as good or nearly as good as just a stock engine with the TRD S/C?
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I am sure it still has a miniscule lag. It HAS to spool.

Also, maybe you missed "for the most part"
you're talking lag until ~2000 rpm? I am running just the simple T28 from tk.com and it is fully spooled by 3000rpm.
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Hmm so would the reliability be just as good or nearly as good as just a stock engine with the TRD S/C?
I would also like to know the answer to this. Seems how you can use the TRD ECU and the Air/Fuel crap is already taken care of for you by Toyota Racing Department.
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I'm running a CT20b and have no lag whatsoever. It's like boost is on tap.




I'll stop.
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I'm running a CT20b and have no lag whatsoever. It's like boost is on tap.




I'll stop.
Exploding turbos say what?
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I'm running a CT20b and have no lag whatsoever. It's like boost is on tap.




I'll stop.
Lucky bastard. My ktt1 takes FOOORREEVVVEERRRR to spool
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Exploding turbos say what?
not ceramic bro.
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Damn thing sold for over $1500......Man I should have driven up to NC and bought that one for $600
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I was watching the SC but the bidding went up after a while. At 1600 hundred and factoring in the cost of the hood, injectors, piggyback, throttle body and tune, it wouldnt be worth it to a celica gt. I guess if you were a matrix or corrolla owner its fine, just bolt and go, no tune, modding or custom work required.
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not ceramic bro.
I thought all the ct20b's were ceramic? I may very well be wrong
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Hmm so would the reliability be just as good or nearly as good as just a stock engine with the TRD S/C?
A properly done intercooled and tuned turbocharger is every bit as reliable as a properly done intercooled and tuned supercharger. The TRD supercharger is NOT intercooled, so I would venture to say that a nice GT25R kit would outperform it, and be even MORE reliable.
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I am sure it still has a miniscule lag. It HAS to spool.

Also, maybe you missed "for the most part"

It has spoolup time, but at no point does it make less power than N/A, and I would venture to guess it beats the supercharger out just as handily.
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I am sure it still has a miniscule lag. It HAS to spool.

Also, maybe you missed "for the most part"
sure it lags for 200 rpm from 1300 to 1500 rpm.

at 1500 rpm in 3rd gear on a c-60 6spd it makes 1.5-2.0 psi with a full throttle stab. You can get off throttle for about 2-3 seconds with the gt bb center cartridge on the 2871r and still have the turbo spinning fast enough for instantaneous boost response.
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A properly done intercooled and tuned turbocharger is every bit as reliable as a properly done intercooled and tuned supercharger. The TRD supercharger is NOT intercooled, so I would venture to say that a nice GT25R kit would outperform it, and be even MORE reliable.
Could more power be made by intercooling the TRD SC? And would it make it more reliable? (This being done while using the TRD ECU)
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Fabricating a custom intercooler setup for that supercharger puts you into turbo kit price range, still with less power.
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^WTF is this!

But even though you wouldn't be making as much power you would be making more power than factory....safer.
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Old 05-09-2012, 07:30 AM   #48
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It has spoolup time, but at no point does it make less power than N/A, and I would venture to guess it beats the supercharger out just as handily.
This IS lag. under 2500 or whatever you said you aren't making any less power than the car would at the same point N/A correct? So if the car makes 300 HP at 8 PSI (Random number obviously), but 2 PSI at 2000 RPM then That IS lag.

No lag would be that the car runs 9 lbs and when you hit the gas you get 9 lbs, not build 9 lbs. Now I am sure with your know how you guys have chosen the right turbo for faster spools and such but it will always spool which IS lag.

Now, in the same respect, I understand that if the throttle response is there, there TECHNICALLY is no such thing as lag because if it makes ANY positive gain in boost then there was no lag. Which is usually the case.

So, lag should be replaced with 'spool time'.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:45 AM   #49
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Old 05-09-2012, 05:14 PM   #50
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I noticed. LOL.

Can the TRD ECU even be used on the Celica???? since it was actually designed for the Corolla. (which has a lower redline) So would it cause any problems using the TRD???
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