Transmission Upgrade

[Darkside]

k i've looked high and low all over the net and I still can't find a damn thing about transmission parts for my auto GT.....can someone tell me exactly WHAT parts (names please) need to be reinforced in order to support more boost and WHP and where in the heck to get them?

[LaW]

your not going to be able to reinforce the auto tranny enough to make a heck of a lot of whp...... Your best and least expensive choice would be to either 1) trade your auto gt for a standard gt or 2) swap in a standard tranny

[LaW]

Worth a mention is a company like level10... they do tranny upgrades and you can talk to them and see what they can do for you. however the comany has come down in quality over the past few years


Ok man, from all the posts I have seen from you... there isn't much knowledge there which is alright.... however i think its best for you to just lay out your plans for your car to me once, I am curious what YOU think your going to be able to do to an autogt so I can perhaps analyze what you actually CAN do... not to be mean

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

honestly bro... your goals are too high unless you want to shell over 10g's out.

[Darkside]

so i wouldnt need to reinforce it for big turbos since it's an auto? or does that just mean that i cant go as high in terms of whp as a manual could?

[LaW]

what are you talking about here? you plan to go with an even BIGGER turbo after you get a kit? what the hell are you planning? The auto will not take as much power as the manual could..... not without some upgrades (that wont guarantee anthign either...) Do it right the first time so you don't have to spend twice as much later

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

[Darkside]

"however i think its best for you to just lay out your plans for your car to me once, I am curious what YOU think your going to be able to do to an autogt so I can perhaps analyze what you actually CAN do... not to be mean"

well for one, i want to turbo it, preferably with DD's kit.....second, i want to up the whp from about 230-240 to something around 275 or higher IF it is possible for my car to pull off...now please imbue me with your great knowledge of turbo celicas

[Darkside]

you're right i DO want to do it right the first time - thats why im asking so many questions so i know what i can and cant do with my car and yes, i do have 10 g's to pull it off if necessary

[LaW]

if you have the money swap the tranny to a manual, why must you insist on having an auto? Its going to be slower, more problems in my opinion.... Anyhow, contact levelten and see what they can do to beef up your tranny... that is pretty much your only bet if your staying with the auto. You are never goign to be able to run more then 240 hp reliably on an auto in myopinion...... You can do so much more with 10g's then turbo an auto.....

Basically whatever teh kit comes with thats what your going to have to run.... dont go out buying a mbc and upping boost, that will just cause many problems, dont go putting on a bigger turbo or anything unless you want more problems..... run it how you bought it....

[Darkside]

cool. does level 10 have a web site?

[LaW]

must I serve it to you on a silver platter too?

http://levelten.com/


with all that money though buy a manly car thats what us girls like

[Darkside]

LOL well in my dreams i will have the ultimate in "manly" cars:

http://www.sandersonsales.com/images...supersnake.htm

800 HP with 125 shot of nitrous to boot? YES PLEASE.


but seriously wtf kind of manly car can i buy with 10 g's? i have already put way too much money into this car to sell it.....i could swap the tranny but i live in traffic light hell and that would just be plain annoying.....i dont want the fastest car in the world, just a fast auto that looks bad ass so all i wanted to do was be able to boost like 9 or 10 psi on DDs kit without my car falling apart

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

I put a lot into my celica... parted it out and started over!

[LaW]

Originally posted by Darkside
LOL well in my dreams i will have the ultimate in "manly" cars:

http://www.sandersonsales.com/images...supersnake.htm

800 HP with 125 shot of nitrous to boot? YES PLEASE.


but seriously wtf kind of manly car can i buy with 10 g's? i have already put way too much money into this car to sell it.....i could swap the tranny but i live in traffic light hell and that would just be plain annoying.....i dont want the fastest car in the world, just a fast auto that looks bad ass so all i wanted to do was be able to boost like 9 or 10 psi on DDs kit without my car falling apart

well honestly, with just DD's kit and the auto you should be pushing 14's possible... that is a fast auto imho... your not going to get that 9-10psi very easily............ definately not with the auto...

you could part your car out, sell yoru car and use that 10g's for a dp on something nice in the 30k range..... that would turn us ladies on

[Darkside]

why'd u start over???


also, i found this on Level 10 - do you think that would be enough reinforcement to support over 300 whp?

http://levelten.com/store/import/ite...ansmission.htm

also, this might even the odds a bit between me and the manual people:

http://levelten.com/store/import/ite...shiftronic.htm

[Darkside]

well here's the list:

Reinforced Tranny: 3250
Rods: 750
Pistons: 500
Fuel System: 500

So 5 G's exactly to up the boost a sh1tload? Anything else i'm missing? Valves/gaskets maybe???

oh yeh: powerFC is another G......also, from the impression I got from DD, celis can run just fine with just pistons&rods at 10 psi

if i only have to spend 5 or 6 Gs to be able up the boost to like 15 psi any time I want though, i'm definately going to do it...dont worry about labor and install, i got a LOT of really good friends who work at speed shops who would do it for free....i've had the Celi since the end of 1999 and i just couldn't bring myself to sell it, especially since i've put so many non-performance mods on it

[dennis]

what did u put onto your celica? you have some pics?

[LaW]

Originally posted by Darkside
well here's the list:

Reinforced Tranny: 3250
Rods: 750
Pistons: 500
Fuel System: 500

So 5 G's exactly to up the boost a sh1tload? Anything else i'm missing? Valves/gaskets maybe???

oh yeh: powerFC is another G......also, from the impression I got from DD, celis can run just fine with just pistons&rods at 10 psi

if i only have to spend 5 or 6 Gs to be able up the boost to like 15 psi any time I want though, i'm definately going to do it...dont worry about labor and install, i got a LOT of really good friends who work at speed shops who would do it for free....i've had the Celi since the end of 1999 and i just couldn't bring myself to sell it, especially since i've put so many non-performance mods on it

LOL 15psi, factor in another 5k dollars for tuning and problems you will surely run into even with the upgrades. I dont think the crank will be able to take it either, you might want to get that cryogenically treated....

[celicancer]

law, you're a female?

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

Here is my list of Mods:
* 2001 Toyota Celica GT
* DA Sports Turbocharger Kit
* DA Sports Front Mount Intercooler
* Split Second Fuel Controller
* Hotchis Sway Bars and Endlinks
* Hotchkis Front Strut/Camber Bar
* TRD Rear Strut Bar
* KN Style CAI Intake
* TurboXS HRFL Blow Off Valve
* Apex-i Super Damper Series Coilovers (only set in America)
* Veilside Full Titanium Exhaust
* BRS Tuning Prototype Front Bumper
* TRD Action Package Side Rocker Panels
* TRD Action Package Rear Valence
* Kaminari Carbon Fiber Race Wing
* MBautosports Prototype Hood Scoop
* Shaved Corners
* Stripped Trunk
* Rays Engineering Gram Lights

Post Ricer

[LaW]

Originally posted by celicancer
law, you're a female?

I try to keep that one the down low so the guys don't treat me like ****.... dont tell anyone...

[Darkside]

Originally posted by dennis
what did u put onto your celica? you have some pics?

i dont have a cam yet, but I originally had TRD body kit, then I got Veilside front, sides, and rear, then I got black tails, chrome corners, TRD springs, 18" chrome primax rims, VIS invader hood, full sound system (deck, subs, and amp), black aluminum pedals, and soon some black leather sparco seats and blacked out headlights

as for law, okay maybe 15 psi was overly exaggerated but if I got all the crap on that list, what PSI do u think I could run safely? am i missing anything important to up the PSI in the range of 10-12?

[LaW]

What is your goal here? Be fast? or Be quick for a cheap auto?


Want to be fast?

Get rid of the show parts, go all out on the Go parts, manual tranny, rods, pistons, cryo treated crank, stronger manual gear set You'll be able to maybe do 15psi with that.....

With all the crap on your car and your system even with that 14's are very questionable

[Darkside]

be quick for an auto

u still didnt answer my question - with just the mods i listed, will i be able to boost 10-12 psi?

[SexyCelica]

Get the kit when it comes out, I'd love my celica to have 400hp and all that fun stuff, but in reality I think i'd be happy for something over 200ish horsepower and I bet you'll be happy with the power you'll get from that turbo too. If you still want more power after experiencing the turbo then we'll talk

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

That Veilside kit will be dragging you quite a bit, get some 17" forged rims, and drop the sounds if you want to be fast. As for my car gutted trunk, light 17" wheels... gotta conserve when you have a slushbox

[LaW]

Originally posted by Darkside
be quick for an auto

u still didnt answer my question - with just the mods i listed, will i be able to boost 10-12 psi?

yes I did answer your question but whatever.


If you want to you could gut a big turbo and boost 20psi lol reliably and without a lot of maintenance is another story. Like said get the turbo, and if your not satisfied then look into doing more to it, your jumping way ahead of yourself... I don't think you really understand what the **** your getting into

[dennis]

what did you do to your tails to have them blacked out? is there a picture online of somebody who has tails that look like yours? as soon as you find a place to black out your head lights, please pm me. o, and do ur tails look like these? http://www.everythingcelica.com/gal2/20020525/DCP_0056
ps. sorry for hijacking a F/I post with apperance questions, but im interested in F/I anyways....

[Darkside]

These are the taillights I have Dennis.

Alright I'm just going to call Dave and ask him about my situation because this thread is gettin nowhere fast. All I'm getting is a bunch of crap about how stupid and slow my auto is and that I shouldn't go for more power and noone is answering my damn questions. If someone wants to answer the question without flaming my car or telling me i'm wasting my money/time, then here it is plain and simple: Pretend my car was completely stock with racing rims/tires on it. Now, if I got reinforced transmission, pistons, rods, standalone fuel system, and powerFC, what would be the highest boost I could do SAFELY on my auto GT? Also, what kind of whp do you think I could pull off with that amount of boost? NOTE: I wont use this boost level all the time, just while racing so dont worry about long term effects of the high boost

[LaW]

WE DONT KNOW!!! NOONE HAS DONE IT! QUIT YA BITCHIN, I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS MAN TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE!!!


See you made me yell. You need to learn some things on your own too man. If you get a turbo your going to break something because you have NO idea about whats going on even after its explained to you.

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

j000 yell'd at t3h n00b....

[celicancer]

cool, you like cars and u know stuff about them...will you marry me law? yer my dream girl

[LaW]

I don't think you could handle this ****

[SexyCelica]

law is a girl??? Post pics! lmao

If you did do all the to your car, I'm guessing you'll get the HP numbers you want (not sure though, lets see what the experts will have to say). Expect to probably pay the cost of your car to get there though. Do a search and you'll find all your answers, this question has been TONS of times, I've only been here a year and I see these questions posted once a week and it could irritating for people to answer the same qustions over and over, but like I said go with some tranny reinforcment for now and get David Draper's kit when it comes out. If you're not happy with performance then start working on the internals.

[Jas]

is it safe to boost my camry up to 25 psi?

[Oo DaRk StAr oO]

Originally posted by Jas
is it safe to boost my camry up to 25 psi?

of course!!! for about 3 seconds!

[LaW]

Originally posted by SexyCelica
law is a girl??? Post pics! lmao

Only if you post pictures first