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Old 02-10-2015, 09:14 AM   #201
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There are not that many transmissions to choice from. Especially when you have to consider something that will hold power. Not many choices
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:50 AM   #202
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He owns that car in the video? Lol. What a troll!!! TROLOLOL!!!
Yes, just ask sc2jz T23 RWD he has it well presented. not too much detail but the general idea, and a goal set in mind. I think he has moved on to a custom tube frame, so I commend him on both. Enjoy.


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The only mystery left is fitting the transfer case and the engine and a manifold and a turbo in that tight spot
Turbo should locate behind accessories belt. I think you mean down pipe is in the way. follow Jason*GTS and flip down pipe, dig a new tunnel. raise turbo with v-band manifold, but I can't conclude that theory.

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There are not that many transmissions to choice from. Especially when you have to consider something that will hold power. Not many choices
Will someone please find me a U (f) series bell for the (zz) other than u341f >?

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Old 02-10-2015, 12:56 PM   #203
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I have builded this car for myself. Not for you, not for him, not for whole world.
I understand. We were just hoping you would share your knowledge. I know I will be sharing my knowledge on my build.

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If you think that joining the engine with awd trans is the most difficult thing then you are very wrong about this.
That is most of the challenge, from what I see. The axles, suspension, exhaust, driveshaft, and rear diff are all things that are not a challenge, because the info for that is out there. The only info we don't have is what transmission to use, and how to get the transfer case to clear.

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Hahaha, too funny. Your english is fine. Better than many of the illiterate Americans here.
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Old 02-11-2015, 11:24 AM   #204
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are there any details about T23 with 2JZ and RWD ?
are there any details about T23 with EJ2xx and AWD ?
but these cars exists...
are there any details about T23 with 4G63T ? I have driven t23 with 4g63t
The guy who did the 2JZ swap will tell what parts he used, hes commented in this thread.

The guy who did the EJ2xx, which wasnt really a swap, he basiclly put a celica body on a subaru chasis had a full on build thread.

I dont see why you would whore the info on what parts were used. No one is looking for a detailed build spec but some info to help not have to buy multiple parts over and over could sure do some good.
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I understand. We were just hoping you would share your knowledge. I know I will be sharing my knowledge on my build.
as you wish )

I'm glad to talk with you, you seems to be a good man.

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Hahaha, too funny. Your english is fine. Better than many of the illiterate Americans here.
do you know what are a balalaika and taiga ?

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Hard proof about AWD Celica. From Russia with love.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:47 AM   #207
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what your proofs? ))
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Pics of the AWD system itself. Trans, modified floors and rear diff and subframe assemblies. It's not that hard to take 5 photos of essential components.
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what your proofs? ))
Whats your proof its real? the burden is proving its real
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Could be hybrid awd with electric motors on the back wheels
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Old 02-13-2015, 01:48 PM   #212
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Could be hybrid awd with electric motors on the back wheels
That would be cool as well. But his is mechanical. You can see his rear drivetrain. However, that's not a big deal. Rear drivetrain is easy, the cluster-fuck of engine block, steering rack, subframe, turbo, downpipe, and transfer case is the biggest problem.
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I was thinking about the idea of engine in the front and electric wheels in the back. But then 1 month later Nissan did that with their new LMP1 car.
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Could do a motor to the rear diff that only activates from zero to 30 mph or something to help get the car off the line, that would avoid the rest of the driveline issues. However the weight of the rear diff, axles, motor, cabling, battery, etc would likely negate any gains other than in the snow.
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Tell me about it. The electric FSAE Car we are building is 100% electric and batteries and motors are heavy as hell even with our carbon fiber monocoque.
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I wonder if you could bolt on an extra alternator to the engine that could run the motors in the back and just put an electric clutch on it so its not dragging all the time...
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Tell me about it. The electric FSAE Car we are building is 100% electric and batteries and motors are heavy as hell even with our carbon fiber monocoque.
Are you using lead acid batteries or banks of LIFE-PO4? The LiMn2O4 cells have a higher discharge rate but lower overall capacity. Have you considered a bank of super/ultra capacitors as a buffer for burst acceleration between the batteries and motor? The caps would be able to dump massive amps to the motor and help prevent wear on the batteries and could readily accept large charges from a regenerative system very quickly. Several auto makers are looking into using them for exactly this purpose, to reduce battery wear and increase performance.
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I'm confused is the person that has the awd celica in Russia on here or is someone just speaking for him?
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Old 11-13-2015, 03:32 PM   #219
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I'm confused is the person that has the awd celica in Russia on here or is someone just speaking for him?
He was speaking, not very well, for okopok. If I can use this transfer gear with stock axles, e153 kit, I stand corrected on the automatic. I only know the engine and gearbox is e352f 1az-fe. 5 speed manual without viscous coupling if not mistaken. I apologize for one last attempt at this topic but if I could fashion the cap of transfer case with oil girdle (one piece design) it might be enough for clearance. Edit: It would seem they have asymmetric Celica in Russia which is why they can launch it in snow weather conditions.
http://autopartsrecyclers.net.au/pro...-2az-fe-03-05/

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Dont ever apologize for trying to make something fucking awesome happen. So this would solve the block clearance issues?

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Old 11-13-2015, 06:50 PM   #221
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Check out the 2009 Matrix New car features and it talks about it.

They were viscous couplings from 04-08 so I guess one of them would work as long as you use a trans that doesn't have a viscous coupling in the center diff, which the Celica GT4/alltrac/Caldina transmissions all do.

Personally I would rather just use a Caldina diff since they are a straightforward mechanical diff.
Depends, for what application. caldina st215 had a viscous coupler but some had rear torsen lsd. If both were fitted to the rear it does nothing for performance. with the open front differential it would be same as awd, matrix, rav4, rx300. Edit: would the monkey grip lsd patch this for automatic gts?

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Old 11-21-2015, 08:27 AM   #222
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Depends, for what application. caldina st215 had a viscous coupler but some had rear torsen lsd.
You are not quite right

Caldina ST215W MT had rear diff with torsen.
Caldina ST215W AT had open rear diff.
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You are not quite right

Caldina ST215W MT had rear diff with torsen.
Caldina ST215W AT had open rear diff.
Thanks, sir. check post #23 #27 #40 information on caldina was not found.
my question was about st246w st215w automatic. was this a 50/50 'normal' torque split or just 100/0 'normal' split and uses 1.8 axles or 2.0 (E) series axles?
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Good try, but I wrote about st246w with reason for Edit:

The facelift model 2005 Toyota Caldina ZT
As a tribute to Toyota motor sport development guru and the creator of the first GT-Four, Hiromu Naruse, a special edition Caldina GT-Four was produced. The Caldina GT-Four “N” edition. (N for Naruse).

This model was equipped with several performance enhancements specified by Hiromu Naruse:

Sport ABS
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You wrote about st215 )))
Yes, 246 had rear Torsen as option.

What do you mean when saying "1.8 axles or 2.0 (e)" ?
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I mean possible axle/hubs c60, u140 u240 u250, into T23, but not e153, e352
E-series bolt onto st215 'K'frame possibility?
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I don't know what about u250, e352
But I can say that c60 and u240 have similar axle's hub
U240, u140, e153 have different hubs
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Get another 2ZZ and put it in the trunk.
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Get another 2ZZ and put it in the trunk.
Before you do that, get a MR-S half-cut and join with a celica half-cut. maybe stretch it out like a limousine, with extra doors ,weld together and you're in business.
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It'd be like a Supra, too long.
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This may or may not contribute much as we've discussed it in the earlier pages already but I figured I'd post it anyway. Was browsing some cars the other day and came across this from an NCP85G Sienta (it's pretty much the same setup as the Matrix/Vibe/Corolla awd):



The interesting part is that when I looked up the part number (41110-73010) for the rear differential it is listed as a Venza V6 AWD rear diff too, so at least it's supposed to hold a little bit more power than just the 1NZ/1ZZ engines.

If there is a way to mate the front subframe of any of these cars to the Celica chassis it might give some needed clearance up front. Of course the transmission and mounts would still be an issue.
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Thanks for the info. The main hurdle is the transmission clearance on the engine block. Need to find a transmission that clears the ZZ block
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Someone with a trashed 2ZZ block should experiment with grinding down the area where the transfer cases would interfere.
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Someone with a trashed 2ZZ block should experiment with grinding down the area where the transfer cases would interfere.

I got this.


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I have a trash 2ZZ block. Just need some transfer cases to try?
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Look at the previous matrix diagrams. It appears to mount the same raised steering rack, and the chassis mounts are very close to a celica.
http://www.fensport.co.uk/images/gen...derside_06.jpg
The problem I had was sourcing the matrix awd, I just need to confirm fitment. probably a hybrid of rav4\venza subframes.

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Confirmed: the correct subframe used by fensport, found in many FF awd toyota's of same generation. but they fail to show the modified engine cradle or how to attach it.

It has only one of the under stamps cut out of the four, if you can match xxxx cradle to any of those stamps, plus xxxx engine mounts.
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Confirmed: the correct subframe used by fensport, found in many FF awd toyota's of same generation. but they fail to show the modified engine cradle or how to attach it.

It has only one of the under stamps cut out of the four, if you can match xxxx cradle to any of those stamps, plus xxxx engine mounts.
Are you talking front or rear subframe I know what they both are it's not very difficult the problem is the transfer case clearing the block on the transmission

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Are you talking front or rear subframe I know what they both are it's not very difficult the problem is the transfer case clearing the block on the transmission
Can you source them both at reasonable prices? That is the burden I am faced with.

The matrix isn't really an option at $500 each for a blown rear diff and tranny (I have proof)

The rear subframes rotted from winters and the rear diff develops slop inside the mount.

I just wanted a known solution. If you were so sure why did you not post info #159?
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Will someone please find me a U (f) series bell for the (zz) other than u341f >?
I found what I was looking for. All-trac system 4spd with mechanical diff lock.

4a-fe All-tracs didn't have a starter hole on intake side. 2wd has starter holes on both sides Edit: (at 90 degree angle). No viscous coupling, so for that reason no adapter plate was made.

Moving on to the 3s-fe I found an All-trac in the Camry/Rav4 and the Edit: (front differential case) bolts up where the rear engine mount would go rather the output shaft. No visous coupling either, that is the mystery. It takes up way too much clearance.

2wd comes in 4a-fe and other bolt pattern Edit: (at 45 degree angle) listed under 99' corolla.?? Tcm controller and traction control could be an issue without a good standalone system.

http://www.usedpartsmiami.com/wp-con...-0306-0031.jpg
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http://www.usedpartsmiami.com/wp-con...COROLLA-99.jpg
Edit: 7A-FE 4wd both starter holes
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