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Old 10-27-2011, 01:42 AM   #1
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Velocity stack air filter

Hey guys!!

Anyone ever used or currently using a velocity stack without or (preferably) with filter?This is an example of what I am talking about:

http://www.bpinitiatives.com/filterkits.php


http://k-tuned.3dcartstores.com/Velo...mbo_p_225.html


Everyone claims for noticeable gains and dynos show increase of 3-4 to 7-8 whp!

The first site has dynos,too.

Hundah guys seem to use this velocity stack for some years...

What do you think?Does it worth trying?
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:40 AM   #2
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I have one, Blox stack and K&N filter (I also modded the AEM intake), butt dyno says there was a gain but its one of those things that could be all in your head too.




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^^So you are almost certain that it worked?Did you felt it through out the whole powerband?Can you swap it with your regular filter to test the difference?

Everybody says that Blox's stack is a copy of BPI's one,so it must work...
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It works. Fujita also has a version of their filter with a velocity stack.
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Old 10-27-2011, 05:25 AM   #5
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It works. Fujita also has a version of their filter with a velocity stack.
Yes but if I am not mistaken,Fujita's filter isn't designed to inhale air from "infinite",opposed to the design I am talking about...You have any pics?
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^^So you are almost certain that it worked?Did you felt it through out the whole powerband?Can you swap it with your regular filter to test the difference?

Everybody says that Blox's stack is a copy of BPI's one,so it must work...
It worked, but Im not sure if it was just the stack/huge filter combo or stack/filter/intake mod that did it.

I felt the biggest difference in the mid range actually, the lift cross over point is alot smoother than before, where as it was lag lag lag then vvtli kick.

No I cant put the 2.75" filter back on because I cut the AEM intake in half. The lower part of it is now 3" so that I could run the stack.
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^^Too bad...

Hell,I am almost convinced in buying one!!
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:52 AM   #8
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K&N X-Stream series filters have velocity stacks built in. I just replaced my original Injen filter on my Injen RD CAI. My butt notices a slight difference.
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:57 AM   #9
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^^Too bad...

Hell,I am almost convinced in buying one!!
It dosent bother me, I dont plan on running the 2.75" filter.


Do it.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:10 AM   #10
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cobb tuning intakes have a velocity stack built in. currently have one on the car
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Old 10-27-2011, 09:36 AM   #11
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I know a few honda guys who run it. They say it helps a few whp. Never tried it myself but is also another little modification I've thought about doing.
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Old 10-27-2011, 11:02 AM   #12
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Nice finding John! I think that I might fit one of these babies to my supercharged setup in order to further reduce intake pressure drop. Maybe now that I am installing a 2.6" pulley, I should consider a 3.5" intake...
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:06 PM   #13
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Thanks for the info,all you guys!

Goat,are you going for it man?Shipping costs $34 to me,with lower posted price for customs free charge!
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:12 PM   #14
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I have a lot of Honda buddies who snake the CAI into their fog light, use a vstack to suck up air and just use mesh screens as their air filter.



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Old 10-27-2011, 02:20 PM   #15
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hmm I have the K&N SRI, would it be good to upgrade since I will change filter for next season anyway?
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hmm I have the K&N SRI, would it be good to upgrade since I will change filter for next season anyway?
Certainly couldnt hurt. Youll need a 3" to 2.75" coupler too and make sure theres space, these things are kinda big.

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Old 10-27-2011, 02:30 PM   #17
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maybe get the compact kit instead of the standard one hehe, hmm where to find coupler maybe on K&N website?
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:35 PM   #18
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The compact kit has a shorter filter, I dont think the length is the issue. The width is what Id be concerned about and the compact filter is just as wide as the regular filter.


Ive gotten couplers from them and they are built tough.
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/produ...b2e5a6b4518606
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:42 PM   #19
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Well just have to measure then if it would fit, would be great if it did =)
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K&N has the specs of the filters size on their site, check it out. I think itll clear the intake manifold but might touch the radiator.
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will have to check it out later, hope I find it =D, thx
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Here are the specs of the BPI kit filter.

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=RF-1048
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What do you also think about this?It's a Venturi involved through the intake.


http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=79003
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:35 PM   #24
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John, I am really into getting the FSK35601 velocity stack from the BP initiatives as I am a fan of the AEM Dryflow filters and will be installing the 21-209DK AEM Dryflow filter on top of it. If you are into it, let's do a group buy dude!
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do you have CAI or SRI?^^ hmm I would be up for a GB ;D
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I am SRI with a 3.5" intake...
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G.,can you please tell me why you like AEM dryflows?I haven't read many good things about them vs K&N...People say they flow less and don't filter htat good.

Now,I am in a research for converting my 3" PPE intake to stepped,which means 3.5" filter and tubing until about the midst of the intake and then transit with a coupler to the normal 3" tube till the TB...
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I have the Cobb intake specifically made for the WRX it has a built in Velocity Stack as well. I felt it gains compared to my previous intakes.. Its loud as hell also. May be the audible gains messing with the butt dyno but its definitely worth it
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:03 AM   #29
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To be honest, I really don't like oiling my air filter, hence my preference to the AEM Dryflow. Oiled filters tend to gunk up the MAF, throttle body and for my case, the supercharger internals, especially if you over-oil them. This problem tends to be more severe when suction is high like in turbo or supercharged applications.
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I have the Cobb intake specifically made for the WRX it has a built in Velocity Stack as well. I felt it gains compared to my previous intakes.. Its loud as hell also. May be the audible gains messing with the butt dyno but its definitely worth it
Let's say that the velocity stack works,in your occasion!Maybe the loudness has to do with the horn like design of the stack,amplifying some internal engine sound frequencies...I like this!!
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To be honest, I really don't like oiling my air filter, hence my preference to the AEM Dryflow. Oiled filters tend to gunk up the MAF, throttle body and for my case, the supercharger internals, especially if you over-oil them. This problem tends to be more severe when suction is high like in turbo or supercharged applications.
Have you read or heard any good news for the AEM filter,except the OVERoiling problem?Any other brand filter that's good and not oiled?Polyurethane,perhaps?
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:58 AM   #32
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I 've seen some Honda forum opinions that K&N vs. Dryflow differences are not noticeable. But to be honest, no, I really have not done THAT much searching!
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^^And seems that los of guys prefere AMSoil/Injen.Oiless too.
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Oh yeah ..... my intake got a louder too.


I dont ever oil mine and use a black K&N dust sock on the filter ...... I clean it during every oil change and while Im there I inspect the pipe and maf and theyre always super clean.


Theres a ton of discussions online about AEM's Dryflow media not flowing as much as K&N's cotton.
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Theres a ton of discussions online about AEM's Dryflow media not flowing as much as K&N's cotton.
Correct!
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Any dynos though? Opinions are one thing, facts are another!
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Doubt someones gonna go pay for dyno time just to test 2 filters. But even the AEM rep says the cotton flows better than the dryflow media.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8LMFioyo3M
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^^Great video-thanks!
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Nice video! Keep in mind though, that we are talking about the filters per se, not their materials. What the video states is that, although the material flows nearly as well as the cotton gauze one (and filters better), there is no problem with the air filter as a whole because, due to size and design, its flow capacity is more than adequate.

After seeing this video, I am really thinking of buying the 21-2100DK AEM Dryflow...
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I like to run the aem dryflow as well. Cleaner overall, had it on my car when I made 205whp.
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i use an apexi dryflow filter, basically got a velocity stack inbuilt. i got the larger 3" filter for a WRX/ STi and used an adaptor and a silicone reducer. i prefer dry filters as maf sensors áre not cheap. use the biggest filter you can fit in - the 2zz dont like a small filter although when i used a small injen filter the bottom end was much improved but the top end suffered badly.
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i use an apexi dryflow filter, basically got a velocity stack inbuilt. i got the larger 3" filter for a WRX/ STi and used an adaptor and a silicone reducer. i prefer dry filters as maf sensors áre not cheap. use the biggest filter you can fit in - the 2zz dont like a small filter although when i used a small injen filter the bottom end was much improved but the top end suffered badly.
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i use an apexi dryflow filter, basically got a velocity stack inbuilt. i got the larger 3" filter for a WRX/ STi and used an adaptor and a silicone reducer. i prefer dry filters as maf sensors áre not cheap. use the biggest filter you can fit in - the 2zz dont like a small filter although when i used a small injen filter the bottom end was much improved but the top end suffered badly.
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What about the weapon r secret weapon intake it has the velocity stack on the filter and has the twin pipe design
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Wow a triple post about air filters from Pocket Rocket!! Like we don't have enough of them!
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