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Old 10-28-2009, 07:12 PM   #51
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But they do look nice.
Is that an ST or GT?
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That's got to be a ST. A GT has a 3S-GE rated at 177 bhp, although the car is pretty heavy...
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Yea at the time, no matter how much of a Toyota lover you were, the Integra GS-R which was its car by price and car type comparison was better in every which way.

Then the owners lived in the reputation of the All-trac they wish they had.
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thats a 95 GT.
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That's got to be a ST. A GT has a 3S-GE rated at 177 bhp, although the car is pretty heavy...
Not in the US. The only Celica with a 3S in the US was the ST162 (4th gen). I had one. I want another.



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Old 10-29-2009, 09:17 AM   #57
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Not in the US. The only Celica with a 3S in the US was the ST162 (4th gen). I had one. I want another.
and that only made 135 hp with TVIS

unless we're talking about the All-Trac which made like, 200 or so. Who knows.

The 4th gen is my favorite looking Celica.
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and that only made 135 hp with TVIS

unless we're talking about the All-Trac which made like, 200 or so. Who knows.

The 4th gen is my favorite looking Celica.
The AllTrac had the GTE engine, and only put out 170ish.
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I have another dyno for one somewhere -- yeah not much power.

I've owned a 4th, 5th, and 7th gen. Love the looks and handling of the 4th and 7th.
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You owned the wrong 5th gen.
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1st and 7th look best, I'm still debating which generation looked the worst.
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Celicas almost always looked good, but they are really crappy in terms of HP.
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Celicas almost always looked good, but they are really crappy in terms of HP.
thats why they had the Supra. a high HP cheap celica would have stolen Supra sales. once the supra was cancelled though....they just kinda kept rolling with it. the sport compact market was going downhill...no reason.
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the sport compact market was going downhill...no reason.
I would say this is somewhat true in the US, but in Japan it was still raging. Some of the most influential Japanese Sport Compact cars were created around that time(i.e. ITR)
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This makes me appreciate my 140 HP auto GT so much more. Thanks!
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This makes me appreciate my 140 HP auto GT so much more. Thanks!
That is like appreciating a slightly browner turd.
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1995 Celica 5 Spd for $1000 should I buy?

I have been looking for a 6th generation Celica in decent shape, but they all have such high milage. I found a 95 with 140k miles. The body is not in the best shape and the engine looks like its leaking oil around the valve cover, but here is the deal killer. I drive the Celica put it into first and was about to thow it back into N...but it wouldnt shift then the owner tells me to let the clutch go and press down on it again. So I have to double clutch everytime I need to **** the gear..he said he replaced the clutch 2 years ago so it must be the Synchros im thinking. You guys think its a good deal? Im sure I can find a tranny for about $250..a new clutch for $100.. how hard is it to change the tranny? I have done a few timing belts in my day, but never a tranny.
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Just sell the motor and tranny and do a half-trac conversion with the motor, tranny, and axle out of an MR2 turbo.

Just in case you didn't get it - it's not worth your trouble.
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turns out the title was rebuilt salvage which pretty much killed the deal for me - I even got him down to 500, but not worth the trouble @ the DMV.

I just picked up a 95 GT conv instead...Also managed to break the glass to the soft top the next day.
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turns out the title was rebuilt salvage which pretty much killed the deal for me - I even got him down to 500, but not worth the trouble @ the DMV.

I just picked up a 95 GT conv instead...Also managed to break the glass to the soft top the next day.
ftw....
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The 800bhp (597kW) Toyota Celica driven by former British Rally Champion, Johnny Milner needed just 48.07 seconds to claim the title of the fastest car at Goodwood 2011.



The car is a super-lightweight Celica GT4 (1050kg) with a 2.0 Corolla WRC four-cylinder engine fitted with a Rotrex supercharger and Garrett GT35/42 turbocharger. There’s also a nitrous oxide injection system to reduce the turbo lag off the line.

It’s actually a sixth generation Celica, but the driver’s seat has been shifted further back (12 inches) for better weight distribution. Raising the wheel arches and suspension mounts has also lowered the car’s centre of gravity for more precise handling.

All in all this is a purpose built weapons grade hill climb machine that is capable of quicker times that recent F1 cars and anything else that wants to challenge for the fastest car at Goodwood title.



SPRINT SERIES TOYOTA CELICA GT4 TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION
Engine type Corolla WRC four-cylinder, 16-valve
Displacement (cc) 1,998
Turbocharger Garrett GT35/42
Supercharger Rotrex, belt-driven
Engine management Motec
Compression ratio 9.7:1
Max. power (DIN hp @ rpm) 700 @ 5,700 at 2bar boost
>800 with nitrous oxide boost
Fuel tank capacity (l) 15
Weight (kg) 1,050
Transmission Mactrack 5-speed manual with Fensport triple-plate clutch
Suspension (front & rear) Reiger Corolla WRC 3-way adjustable dampers,
Brakes Front 343mm and rear 295mm Corolla WRC ventilated discs with Alcon callipers
Wheels 18in
Epic win! Good to see the old platform/engine being competitive.
Rotrex + GT35/42 Turbo + Nitrous.


More pics http://www.caradvice.com.au/126423/t...s-at-goodwood/
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I was at Goodwood this weekend for the Festival of Speed and watched Jonny (who competes in the Toyota Sprint Series here in the UK) and he was the fastest car all weekend but missed out on the King of the Hill title in the last run when he had a moment after hooking the wheel on the grass on the inside of one of the early corners and was pipped by 0.4 secs by an ex-F1 Lotus 88 car, the twin chassis car. A car so quick that it was banned before it ever competed!! Still, Jonny proved that on the right run he was quicker than any of the timed cars up the hill over the course of the weekend and that's an unbelievable achievement

Also up the hill in very impressive time was Fensport's Celica GT4X which came in 4th overall. Both guys did the Celica community proud

Goodwood FoS was incredible. Simply incredible.

Oh and I got to check out the new Aventador up close and personal... 'Gorgeous' just doesn't do the car justice. All-in-all, the perfect way to spend my spare time.
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Cool. Less than full props for use'n nitrous tho. Nitrous is cheating.
Always sucked that the 6th gen gt4 wasn't sold in the States.
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Cool. Less than full props for use'n nitrous tho. Nitrous is cheating.
Always sucked that the 6th gen gt4 wasn't sold in the States.
nitrous is no different than any other power adder....grow up. The movies lied to you
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The colour on the car is Lexus Nurburgring Orange as used on the LFA limited edition. It did look better in the white paint job he had last season...
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great - a car that you can only drive the .0023% of your life that you're on a race track.
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nitrous is no different than any other power adder....grow up. The movies lied to you
Based on more than just movies. Philosophical choice. Mechanical devices that add power with just gasoline are cool. Additives aren't cool. Too specialized, too temperamental, problematic. Course, the same could be said of turbos or superchargers. Some guys like blondes, some don't. Whatever turns ya on. if it's your thing, more power to ya Memph. Pun intended.
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Have you ever run nitrous to say it's "too temperamental" or "problematic"?

I understand preference...but you're trying to justify your choice with things that are objective..they just aren't true

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I've never heard anything bad about nitrous - everyone I know who runs it loves it.
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Based on more than just movies. Philosophical choice. Mechanical devices that add power with just gasoline are cool. Additives aren't cool. Too specialized, too temperamental, problematic. Course, the same could be said of turbos or superchargers. Some guys like blondes, some don't. Whatever turns ya on. if it's your thing, more power to ya Memph. Pun intended.
this is kind of stupid - so . . in your mind, you shouldn't upgrade fuel systems because you're adding more gasoline than originally intended

you shouldn't run ethanol because despite having 104 octane its not gas

and heaven forbid cooling things off with water or meth injection so that you can run more boost/timing, right?

what about bumping compression with pistons? That's far more invasive than a turbo or supercharger.

there's a ton of different ways to make power.

My preferred method, of course, is to just drop weight - but whatever.
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The pedant in me wants to point out that you cannot 'make power' by simply dropping weight. You can merely improve your power to weight ratio.

Of course, I don't wanna be a douche so I shall refrain from saying that.

Nitrous isn't cheating, it's another tool in the arsenal, that's all.
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Have you ever run nitrous to say it's "too temperamental" or "problematic"? I understand preference...but you're trying to justify your choice with things that are objective..they just aren't true
From what I know they are true.


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this is kind of stupid - so . . in your mind, you shouldn't upgrade fuel systems because you're adding more gasoline than originally intended. you shouldn't run ethanol because despite having 104 octane its not gas and heaven forbid cooling things off with water or meth injection so that you can run more boost/timing, right? what about bumping compression with pistons? That's far more invasive than a turbo or supercharger. There's a ton of different ways to make power. My preferred method, of course, is to just drop weight - but whatever.
An upgraded fuel system is a mechanical device that adds power with just gasoline. Said as such is cool. Why would I not like that? Yep running Ethanol feels like cheating. Has it's problems as well. Correct, meth injectors are cheating as well. Bumping compression is tweaking a mechanical device. Again, cool with that. As I stated earlier, turbos and superchargers are also temperamental and problematic as well. One person's temperamental and problematic isn't another's. Yep, all sorts of ways to make power. If you count dropping weight as one, and thats what does it for you and works for you, cool. Nitrous just doesn't do it for me. They might as well added wings, a jet engine, and flew the Celica to the finish line. Both feel like cheating. The F1 car didn't use nitrous or ethanol and meth injectors either. But, hey, thats how I feel about it. If you don't. cool.
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My preferred method, of course, is to just drop weight - but whatever.
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From what I know they are true.


An upgraded fuel system is a mechanical device that adds power with just gasoline. Said as such is cool. Why would I not like that? Yep running Ethanol feels like cheating. Has it's problems as well. Correct, meth injectors are cheating as well. Bumping compression is tweaking a mechanical device. Again, cool with that. As I stated earlier, turbos and superchargers are also temperamental and problematic as well. One person's temperamental and problematic isn't another's. Yep, all sorts of ways to make power. If you count dropping weight as one, and thats what does it for you and works for you, cool. Nitrous just doesn't do it for me. They might as well added wings, a jet engine, and flew the Celica to the finish line. Both feel like cheating. The F1 car didn't use nitrous or ethanol and meth injectors either. But, hey, thats how I feel about it. If you don't. cool.
1. you conveniently ignored my question "Have you EVER used nitrous"

2. You can feel however you want about anything...that doesn't mean your reasons aren't ignorant. You could legitimately hate black people...but none of your reasons would be within reason/quantifiable & incontestably true. Much like your reasons against nitrous. You've used a few adjectives to describe nitrous such as "too temperamental" and "problematic" without ANY support...

Also there are so many holes in what you're saying above...Ethanol is cheating...but gas isn't....but Ethanol is in all gas. Wtf are you trying to say??

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I hope everyone realizes most of this **** is just gas with more refining (not nitrous obviously)
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1. you conveniently ignored my question "Have you EVER used nitrous"
2. You can feel however you want about anything...that doesn't mean your reasons aren't ignorant. You could legitimately hate black people...but none of your reasons would be within reason/quantifiable & incontestably true. Much like your reasons against nitrous. You've used a few adjectives to describe nitrous such as "too temperamental" and "problematic" without ANY support... Also there are so many holes in what you're saying above...Ethanol is cheating...but gas isn't....but Ethanol is in all gas. Wtf are you trying to say??
Not all gas has ethanol. Regardless, what I meant specifically was that a high ethanol fuel, such as drag alcohol, would be cheating. Not the 5-10% you find in high octane pump gas. Further specification, when mention gas I mean pump gas in general.
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it is quite hard to find a nice and decent 7th gen Celica from where I live (I've owned a couple of 7th gen back in the state few years ago), really want to get another one here but no luck. But recently, and luckily, I've found something different, well, in a way, and I purchased a 1994 ST205 Celica GT4, I'm so impressed with the car (still loving the 7th gen by all mean), hopefully I will keep the car as long as I can.

any owner of GT4 here?
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