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Old 07-14-2014, 02:21 PM   #1
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Projector Headlights, Vertical or Horizontal?

Hey guys, im looking to replace the headlights on my blue 2000 gts but I can't decide which layout looks better.

At first I was thinking these (horizontal) to give a more aggressive look:



But now I'm thinking these (vertical) give a cleaner/smoother look:



Thoughts?
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Old 07-14-2014, 02:26 PM   #2
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I say OEM all the way.... but if you must the second choice. [vertical]
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Old 07-14-2014, 02:35 PM   #3
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vertical over horizontal, OEM/black housing over both.
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Old 07-14-2014, 02:39 PM   #4
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Projector Headlights, Vertical or Horizontal?

Oem hands down and painted insert


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Old 07-14-2014, 03:24 PM   #5
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dont get crappy halos, there is nothing aggressive on them.

you are too far else i would sell you my oe jdm set.
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:25 PM   #6
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I personally love halos. Be warned tho that those ebay headlights lose their clear coat really fast, and they will also haze/become opaque much more quickly than a OEM set.
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Old 07-14-2014, 07:28 PM   #7
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Old 07-15-2014, 01:21 PM   #8
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I personally love halos. Be warned tho that those ebay headlights lose their clear coat really fast, and they will also haze/become opaque much more quickly than a OEM set.
I also love halos. It seems to me that a lot of the rage against the lights from Spec-D and Spyder is a matter of style, and I've never let anybody dictate my style to me.

But you've actually brought up a non-style downside to these lights. When you say "much more quickly," how quickly are you talking about? Because, for example, my OEM headlights are already hazed and cracked, so obviously whatever I buy new is going to be an improvement. But will they haze up in 6 months? A year? Two years? I don't need them to last 14 years like my originals. I just want them to look decent and work for a couple years.
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:47 PM   #9
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Cheap Ebay style Halo's are exactly that "Cheap"

Output is horrible
Aiming them is difficult.
They flake and haze within months.
Putting HID's in them do not solve the light output problem.
They look horrible*
I got mine for free, but were off the my car within 3-4 months. Worst mod I have ever done to a car.

(Personal experience, save your money and save up for OEM hid instead. Even OEM halogens are better then these.)
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:33 PM   #10
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Cheap Ebay style Halo's are exactly that "Cheap"

Output is horrible
Aiming them is difficult.
They flake and haze within months.
Putting HID's in them do not solve the light output problem.
They look horrible*
I got mine for free, but were off the my car within 3-4 months. Worst mod I have ever done to a car.

(Personal experience, save your money and save up for OEM hid instead. Even OEM halogens are better then these.)
The fact that you sell OEM/JDM parts for a living makes me add a grain of salt to this.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:12 AM   #11
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The fact that you sell OEM/JDM parts for a living makes me add a grain of salt to this.
And yet his claims are nothing new.
Those aftermarket headlights are a "a matter of style". That "non-style" downside is actually called "quality." That is what those headlights lack. Research, arrive at a conclusion, and then act. If form over function is what you're after, do it.

You're absolutely correct and you shouldn't let anyone dictate your "style".
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:11 AM   #12
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The fact that you sell OEM/JDM parts for a living makes me add a grain of salt to this.
No, he sells OEM because he knows OEM is best when it comes to quality. So it reflects his business. Quality only.
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Old 07-16-2014, 07:45 AM   #13
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The fact that you sell OEM/JDM parts for a living makes me add a grain of salt to this.
I wasn't selling you anything.
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And yet his claims are nothing new.
Those aftermarket headlights are a "a matter of style". That "non-style" downside is actually called "quality." That is what those headlights lack. Research, arrive at a conclusion, and then act. If form over function is what you're after, do it.

You're absolutely correct and you shouldn't let anyone dictate your "style".
Which is why I've been trying to collect info on the quality of these headlights, but it's been difficult. Most of what I hear (across the internet, not just here) is either people calling halo lights "rice" or people who have just put them into their car and love them. What I can't find is any reviews that speak of the longevity of the lights, until Enarki said "they haze quickly," and Rafa said "they fade within months." So I guess I'm still doing research.
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Old 07-16-2014, 11:01 AM   #15
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Aka Rafa's list pretty much describes what I think of them, except I like the look. I personally thought of picking a set, but after seeing how they behave on a close friend's celica, I changed my mind.

The haze itself should not appear "within months", but the clear flaking definitively will. I also remember the wiring not being pleasant to allow the halos to light by themselves.

If you're ready to live with that, and somehow find a way to prevent clear flaking before it happens, I say go ahead. But you've been warned.

I decided to go the OEM/Black housing way (still a work in progress).
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Old 07-16-2014, 11:28 AM   #16
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Just remember that there is a reason OEM parts are so much more expensive than a lot of aftermarket parts. They spend years developing the best possible part for the car that meets ALL requirements. OEMs spend a lot of money meeting the requirements that allows them to put that little DOT Approved onto their parts. Most aftermarket parts are NOT DOT approved to save money since those tests are not only time consuming, expensive, and difficult to pass. That means that the product most aftermarket suppliers make are illegal to use on public roads. There are some companies like Schroth and Hella that do become DOT approved but it isn't very common.

Lighting is something that you should not cheap out on since it not effects for your safety but it also effects the safety of others on the road around you. If I were you I would get new OEM headlights (or a good set of used ones) and if you really want a cool set of headlights that compliment your style look into retrofitting a set. There have been a few threads on this site where people added projectors and halos to OEM headlights.
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Old 07-17-2014, 06:56 AM   #17
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Which is why I've been trying to collect info on the quality of these headlights, but it's been difficult.
Then i wouldn't take someone like Rafa's statement with a grain of salt, he knows his stuff and you obviously don't yet. no offense meant by that... Everyone is right, the lights are a bad idea for tons of reasons... i just advise you keep your stocks when you wanna go back
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:01 AM   #18
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What about aftermarket tail lights? Are they all bad too?
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:05 PM   #19
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What about aftermarket tail lights? Are they all bad too?
yes
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Old 07-17-2014, 03:37 PM   #20
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yes
*Yes, mostly because of looks. Aftermarket companies don't really put thought into what will look good on a car and only follow the latest and *greatest fads that may be going at the time withing the "JDM YO!" world. They just adapt them to every single car model they can.

Good example are "Altezza" Style tail lights.
These belong on Altezza's only.

Please stay away from the boob tails unless you are secure enough to sport them with a bra. Accept and live with the fact that you will be made fun of if you do.

Only quality and decent looking aftermarket tails out there for these cars are TYC's. Functionable and look good. Actually went through the $$ and process to be DOT approved.

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Old 07-17-2014, 05:39 PM   #21
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Re: Projector Headlights, Vertical or Horizontal?

Had reds on my last car.. loved em.

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Old 07-17-2014, 06:21 PM   #22
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Please stay away from the boob tails unless you are secure enough to sport them with a bra. Accept and live with the fact that you will be made fun of if you do.
What qualifies as "boob tail lights"? I definitely want to track down some of the newer tails for my car so I can ditch the amber glass. But that's a super low priority project. Just one of those "it'd be nice" things.
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What qualifies as "boob tail lights"? I definitely want to track down some of the newer tails for my car so I can ditch the amber glass. But that's a super low priority project. Just one of those "it'd be nice" things.
Boob.

LED

TYC


Its your car and I dont care if you get any of the tails everyone hates but my advice is if you wanna lose the amber turn signals just buy some tint.



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Old 07-17-2014, 06:51 PM   #24
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I figure I will just buy a set of newer OEM tails from one of the users here. Lots of them in the classifieds right now.
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I figure I will just buy a set of newer OEM tails from one of the users here. Lots of them in the classifieds right now.
Thats what i ended up doing eventually too. Just beware that the newer tails have a pinkish tint.
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Thats what i ended up doing eventually too. Just beware that the newer tails have a pinkish tint.
All the time, or just when they're lit up?
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All the time, or just when they're lit up?
I'm not too sure. I just ordered them the other day. So I can't say yet. But I've heard that's the main complaint about them. Something like the closer you are the pinker they get.
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Like someone else said just keep your stock headlights and buy what you want, win/win. Change when you want. I've got 3 sets of tails and change depending on my mood and the season.
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:34 AM   #29
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Thats what i ended up doing eventually too. Just beware that the newer tails have a pinkish tint.
Love that Pink
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Which is why I've been trying to collect info on the quality of these headlights, but it's been difficult. Most of what I hear (across the internet, not just here) is either people calling halo lights "rice" or people who have just put them into their car and love them. What I can't find is any reviews that speak of the longevity of the lights, until Enarki said "they haze quickly," and Rafa said "they fade within months." So I guess I'm still doing research.
So! It's been about four years now and I thought I'd just go ahead and follow up on this. I did buy the Spec-D dual halo projector lights for my Celica (I got the all chrome ones), and I've been super happy with them. The installation wasn't too bad (a friend and I did it in an afternoon) and it's been about 3.5 years now that I've had them in. This is the third winter I've been through, and so far I have not had to replace any bulbs. There is no visible glazing or cracking, and I've enjoyed the look the entire time, not to mention that the visibility is much better than my 14 year old glazed OEM lights.

So it's just one man's experience, but I can say that I've had at least 3.5 years of good quality out of them. Maybe I got lucky (unlikely considering my other luck with the car) but I think I can say that the reports of lights hazing within months are exaggerated.
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So! It's been about four years now and I thought I'd just go ahead and follow up on this. I did buy the Spec-D dual halo projector lights for my Celica (I got the all chrome ones), and I've been super happy with them. The installation wasn't too bad (a friend and I did it in an afternoon) and it's been about 3.5 years now that I've had them in. This is the third winter I've been through, and so far I have not had to replace any bulbs. There is no visible glazing or cracking, and I've enjoyed the look the entire time, not to mention that the visibility is much better than my 14 year old glazed OEM lights.

So it's just one man's experience, but I can say that I've had at least 3.5 years of good quality out of them. Maybe I got lucky (unlikely considering my other luck with the car) but I think I can say that the reports of lights hazing within months are exaggerated.
Hello friend, I have been searching like crazy for someone recently who still has or had these for a long time but nobody speaks of them after 2013.. lol
I am in the market for the verticle stacked ccfl halos for my 02 gts.. I see you say they have lasted the test of time with you for almost 4 years so the halos are holding well? Did you wire them seperatly or any special way? my stock lights are so muddy I hope I can get lucky and get a good pair of these to update the look of my girl.. thanks for your time guy
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