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Old 05-30-2007, 03:30 PM   #51
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on the c-one springs add
They look like pretty sweet springs too... not too aggressive of a drop, with nice heavy rates. Except for the Weitec (which as far as I can tell are very hard to find on this side of the pond) they offer the stiffest rates without going to a coilover. And at 1.3" they wown't destroy typical shocks like springs with bigger drops do.
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:16 AM   #52
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i might get them along with some agxs
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:46 AM   #53
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i might get them along with some agxs
That would be a nice setup.
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Old 06-08-2007, 02:22 PM   #54
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anyone have spring rates for vogtland springs?
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Old 06-09-2007, 07:39 AM   #55
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anyone have spring rates for vogtland springs?
Well, after much translation and a little guessing I've decided I really don't know the drop or the spring rate of these springs.

If anyone else wants to take a whack at german translation be my guest:
http://php.vogtland.com/get_pdf.php?...1022-00-01.pdf
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Old 06-09-2007, 10:40 AM   #56
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haha nice..
the drop is 1.4" front and rear.
i was asking because on ebay they are selling them paired up with tokico illuminas. i like the drop. just wanted to know the spring rate. i plan to auto-x on them. i think i'll just go with progress/agx's unless you have a better suggestion?
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:47 PM   #57
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Somebody posted this link on another thread. I didn't know TRD.jp Sportivos were still available: http://trdparts.jp/english/parts_sportivo.html
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Front Coil Spring K=29.4N/mm
Rear Coil Spring K=43.1N/mm
(Ride height approx. 20mm lowering)
If my math is right (check it!! ) then these are
Front= 3.0Kg/mm = 168LB/in
Rear = 4.4Kg/mm = 246LB/in
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:43 PM   #58
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http://trdparts.jp/english/parts_sportivo.html
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Front Coil Spring K=29.4N/mm
Rear Coil Spring K=43.1N/mm
(Ride height approx. 20mm lowering)
If my math is right (check it!! ) then these are
Front= 3.0Kg/mm = 168LB/in
Rear = 4.4Kg/mm = 246LB/in
Umm, I don't think you can convert Newtons per millimeter to pounds per inch.
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:01 PM   #59
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...I don't think you can convert Newtons per millimeter to pounds per inch.
Really? Sure you can. A kilogram weighs 9.8 newtons. It also weighs 2.2 pounds. And there are 25.4 millimeters in an inch. So just multiply your Newtons per Millimetre (N/mm) by 5.7082 to get your Pounds Force per Inch. http://www.leespring.co.uk/pdf/new_l...ersiondata.pdf
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Also I remember that the front rate is the same as the rear stock rate.
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:40 AM   #60
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What are some springs that I can buy that give the lowest drop available? Do the Tanabe DF210's give the lowest drop, or are there others?
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:53 PM   #61
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What are some springs that I can buy that give the lowest drop available? Do the Tanabe DF210's give the lowest drop, or are there others?
The DF210s are the lowest available. Tho if you're going that low it would be a good idea to go with coilovers. If you must go with DF210s match them with Koni yellows.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:24 PM   #62
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That's what I thought, but apparently the skunk 2's are a little lower. They are 2.25"f and 2.5r, while the DF210's are 2.2f and 2.5r. So I guess basically the same thing.
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Old 12-22-2007, 08:50 PM   #63
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I didn't see the Espelir Lowering springs on here. Just thought I'd throw it in.
Front: 3.0 kg/mm
Rear: 3.8 kg/mm
Lowers front and rear ~30mm.
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:20 AM   #64
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I didn't see the Espelir Lowering springs on here. Just thought I'd throw it in.
Front: 3.0 kg/mm
Rear: 3.8 kg/mm
Lowers front and rear ~30mm.
Thanks! List updated.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:16 PM   #65
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No problem... thanks for converting it for me!

Looks like they're almost identical to the Eibach Pro-Kit springs.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:08 PM   #66
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Bilstein pss - 285 lbs/in all around
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Old 01-15-2008, 07:28 PM   #67
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Bilstein pss - 285 lbs/in all around
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:19 AM   #68
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you have skunk2 spring rates that say a 1.4" drop. what about the skunk2 racing springs that give a 2.25f and 2.5r drop?
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:53 PM   #69
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you have skunk2 spring rates that say a 1.4" drop. what about the skunk2 racing springs that give a 2.25f and 2.5r drop?
anything at all??
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:48 PM   #70
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Cround control Product SKU #8016

The standard Ground Control in the #8016 conversion kit are:
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The last two digits are kg/mm without the decimal point.
front 4.4kg/mm ~ 250lbs/in
rear 7.5kg/mm ~ 420lbs/in
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Old 03-01-2008, 05:36 PM   #71
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:59 PM   #72
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anyone know the spring rate for the H&R's?
I called H&R to get their spring rates, but apparently they don't publish rates for their sport springs for some wacky reason...
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:00 AM   #73
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^^ ultra lame.

Did you talk to the tech info guy or just the customer service guy?
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:11 AM   #74
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^^ ultra lame.

Did you talk to the tech info guy or just the customer service guy?
It was a customer service person, but I'm pretty sure she asked a tech guy because I was placed on hold for a while. She said something about them measuring their spring rates differently than other manufacturers, so their published spring rates would not be comparable.

I'm pretty sure she meant that they have some kind of progressive spring rate, but why they don't publish any numbers, I couldn't tell ya.
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A lot of places (racecomp comes to mind) do not publish their spring rates because they are afraid that some eBay company will just directly copy the spring rates and undercut them on price.
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What is the best struts/shocks for the Eibach Sportline springs ?
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:46 AM   #77
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:48 PM   #78
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are the tanabe superdown the same as the super precedos? are the called superdown precedos? cuz thats what i got
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:29 AM   #79
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what does the lb/in have to do with it??
does it help with anything?
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:20 PM   #80
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hello??? echo... echo..
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:48 PM   #81
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kg/mm = lbs/in, a way of measuring the spring rate, the higher the spring rate the firmer the spring
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:51 PM   #82
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is anyone could tell me what s H&R sport spring rate is?
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:49 PM   #83
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i see most spring rates are stiffer in the rear than in the front. although some other manufactures have things the other way around. im assuming a stiffer rate in the rear would help handling greatly so why do some have the other way around?
would it be wise to swap in a stiffer rear spring on a coilover setup that previously had softer springs in the rear?

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what does the lb/in have to do with it??
does it help with anything?
how much weight it takes for the spring to compress one inch i believe.
but dont quote me on that.
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Old 03-14-2009, 06:07 PM   #84
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i see most spring rates are stiffer in the rear than in the front. although some other manufactures have things the other way around. im assuming a stiffer rate in the rear would help handling greatly so why do some have the other way around?
would it be wise to swap in a stiffer rear spring on a coilover setup that previously had softer springs in the rear?
on a fwd theyre set like that for comfort, its best to have a higher spring rate in the rear to help the car rotate around the corner better since fwd have a natural tendency to understeer, you can get a similar result if you adjust the dampening settings on your d2 coilovers to soft in the front and really hard in the rear, or install an aftermarket sway bar in the rear only and leave the front bar oem, if you do want to swap springs id recommend swift or hyperco
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:46 AM   #85
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is anyone could tell me what s H&R sport spring rate is?
Reply from H&R:
front 153 lb/in rear:227 lb/in
drop 30mm front & rear
they are progressive

I also wait answer from Koni for Sport Kit
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:38 AM   #86
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Quote from zzz for KW variant 2

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Here we go, i found a pic of the springs i took a hwile back.
Front Spring 60-170: 6KG spring with 170mm height
Rear Spring 40-200: 4KG spring with 200mm height
Front Helper 20-60-80: 2kg spring with 80mm height (60mm diameter)
Rear Helper 10-60-80: 1kg spring with 80mm height (60mm diameter)

The front and rear main springs are also 60mm diameter, just not marked for some reason.
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Am I correct that an overly high (stiff) spring rate isn't suitable for a DD (i.e., for a car that will drive on imperfect road surfaces), and that you'd only want the really stiff ones for a track car?

What kind of rate would be more ideal for a rally vs normal road vs track car?

Also, besides the TRD's, which others have a progressive rate (initially softer, firmer under greater load)?
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stiff isnt for a daily driver. For a comfort daily driver I would get swift springs with Gr-2s. Swifts are progressive and really smooth however I cant find them in Europe so I will go with H&Rs. If you want a little better handling go with H&Rs, they are progressive a little stiffer than Eibachs but Eibachs are linear. All these for a DD.

For professional track go for a good expensive coilover, so you can adjust it. I would go for KWs sports (not variant) that can be ordered with custom rates, I would say over 500 lb/in.
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I also wait answer from Koni for Sport Kit
Koni sport
Front 22 Nm/mm (125,4 lb/in)
Rear 36,6 Nm/mm (208,6 lb/in)
drop 35mm front & rear
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:01 PM   #90
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according to a rep from D2 "The spring rate for the Celica is 6.0kg/mm for the rear and 8.7kg/mm for the front."
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:54 AM   #91
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I'm looking at the megan racing springs.
Does any one have them on a dd?? If so how do they drive?

$120.00 is the cheapest i can find em.
http://www.raceinspired.com/p-15351-...iliateid=10065

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Old 05-28-2010, 11:42 PM   #92
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Sprint springs should be added. it has a nice drop
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tein basic coilover are also F:280 R:390
Cool, I updated my list, and I think I'll be calling/emailing a few manufacturers to try to get their spring rates as well.
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cant find spring rates for goldline springs.
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HOLY FVCK! Zeal spring rates and TRIAL are NUCKING FUTS!! i want to go stiffer then the 9kg f/r i have....
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Does anyone know what the spring rates for the KW Coilover Kit V2 is? I tried looking on their site but I can't find it:

http://www.kw-suspension.com/us/index.php
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Nevermind.. e-mailed them and found out:

340.lbs front and rear
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Old 01-28-2012, 07:02 AM   #98
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What are the best spring rates performance wise for a 2000 gts. I'm looking into getting bc coils and I was thinking 8 front 10 rear. Does that sound good? would I need a revalve for that?
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:51 PM   #99
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Veerstijfheden:
Front: 170-10401VA 24 N/mm
Rear: 170-10402HA 38 N/mm (do not use with 2B760 rearshock)

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137 lb/in 216 lb/in

35mm drop
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:34 AM   #100
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I would like to add some info about the Raceland coil overs.
Celica: front 275 lbs/in rear 385 lbs/in
I also know there were people who put Scion TC coilovers on from Raceland that have higher spring rates.
TC coilovers: front 370 lbs/in rear 545 lbs/in
TC Ultimo coilovers: front 415 lbs/in rear 600 lbs/in
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