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Old 12-13-2008, 12:39 PM   #151
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Delayed until 2012 or later
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Originally due in 2011, now, according to Nikkei, the car has been pushed back to at least 2012. If things get worse before they get better, we have a feeling that 2012 will also come and go without Toyota fielding another dedicated sports car entrant.
The wait just got a little bit longer.

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yea....let time for the economy to build up again...
by that time i will be finish paying the celica
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And here I thought you had a supra
hmmm...

385whp @ 3500lbs vs 200hp @ 3400lbs.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:27 AM   #156
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hmmm...

385whp @ 3500lbs vs 200hp @ 3400lbs.
I think he was comparing your Supra to the Genesis
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:36 AM   #157
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Insider: Toyota to Bring Subaru Co-developed RWD Coupe as a Scion TC in 2011
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:33 PM   #158
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Delayed until 2012 or later
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Old 01-07-2009, 06:35 AM   #159
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Sorry Fanboys - Toyobaru Cancelled

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/subaru-wins-2008/

Subaru was the only automobile manufacturer to actually grow in 2008 (by 491 cars over 2007).

But the real kicker is this line

"the Toyobaru coupe has been canceled"
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Old 01-07-2009, 06:39 AM   #160
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"the Toyobaru coupe has been canceled
get out of here......

it just got pushed back to 2012
where did you read that????

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/155...omment-page-1/

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Old 01-07-2009, 12:04 PM   #161
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Insider: Toyota to Bring Subaru Co-developed RWD Coupe as a Scion TC in 2011
Remember our bet marc?

Whatever it was, pay up, even if it's nothing. Toldyaso!!!!!! haha

I mean...it's an obvious move...unless the future tC has a better flowing variant of the 2.7 Liter Venza motor for at least 190-200 hp and lighter weight to compete with other sport hatch/coupes...this was the smartest move to get back into the "tuner" realm and not just be a damn poser along with regressing car sales...
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:28 PM   #162
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Remember our bet marc?

Whatever it was, pay up, even if it's nothing. Toldyaso!!!!!! haha

I mean...it's an obvious move...unless the future tC has a better flowing variant of the 2.7 Liter Venza motor for at least 190-200 hp and lighter weight to compete with other sport hatch/coupes...this was the smartest move to get back into the "tuner" realm and not just be a damn poser along with regressing car sales...
read the post I just made - their source claims the project has been ****canned completely, not postponed.
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:05 PM   #163
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Toyota 086A sports car

Looks like Aston Martin.


The next President of Toyota Motor Co. Akio Toyoda gives us a little more insight into the Toyota/Subaru compact FR sports car.

In a press interview at the Tokyo Auto Salon last month, the next President of Toyota Motor Co. Akio Toyoda was asked many questions about where Toyota was heading and also one question which might be of particular interest to Japanese sports car enthusiasts, “How’s the development coming along regarding the sports car jointly developed with Subaru?” This question was answered in 3 parts:

Project Moving Ahead

Despite some reports to the contrary, the Toyota/Subaru compact FR sports car was not cancelled (even partially) and will continue to go ahead. It is seen as a vital part of Toyota’s “rejuvenation” efforts and reflects the company’s desire to develop a car that appeals to the younger generation of car enthusiasts. Having a FR sports car at the entry level end of the market is Toyota’s way of cementing its image as an rejuvenated car company and will surely dominate the segment as its competitors struggle to keep up.

Codename: “086A”, Delayed Production

Development of the body and chassis is complete and we’re told the development code for the new FR sports car is “086A”. The numerals “86″ should make fans of the now legendary AE86 Sprinter Trueno/Corolla Levin happy as it’s rumored that the numbers will be carried over as the chassis designation. It was thought that the freeze put on construction of the new Subaru factory slated to produce the Toyota/Subaru sports car was the main reason for delays in production, but this is actually in no way related and the real reason for the delay is that production will postponed for several months so that D-4S direct injection could be applied to the flat-4 boxer engine. Production will be postponed until March 2012.

Price Unchanged

Akio Toyoda also confirmed that the price of the Toyota/Subaru compact sports car is still 2,000,000 yen and that there will be no changes to the original plan to build an affordable entry-level sports car. The car is seen to be a formidable model when it joins Toyota’s line up as it will surely push the boundaries of a market segment occupied by front wheel drive compact cars.

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Old 02-18-2009, 12:19 PM   #164
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:25 PM   #165
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i would drive it but i wont believe any of it til i see it
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:26 PM   #166
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^ ill buy one as soon as it comes out, but im not getting my hopes up.
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that proto is ugly looking
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:49 PM   #168
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Errrr so they are building this as a tC replacement I bet. Makes sense. I don't see why it would be delayed. The tC is overdue for an update.
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:59 PM   #169
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The other renderings so far have a lot of tC styling elements in them. Hachiroku in Japan, tC in US I suppose.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:02 PM   #170
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honestly i could care less what they badge it as. i just want toyota to make a bad ass sports car.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:44 PM   #171
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honestly i could care less what they badge it as. i just want toyota to make a bad ass sports car.
Keep waiting. This isn't it.
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:48 PM   #172
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I'd consider buying it if it didn't have Subaru engineering.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:28 PM   #173
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Zero-hatchirouku-Alpha... needs a better name. Sounds like the subtitle for a new Street Fighter game
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hmm think of it this way: with how fast automotive technology is growing, imagine what new add ons they might use during these three years.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:52 AM   #175
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hmm think of it this way: with how fast automotive technology is growing, imagine what new add ons they might use during these three years.
what part of cancelled don't you understand?

even if they do resurrect it, realize that they won't ad "cutting edge" stuff to it, no car company does because it takes so long to develop and test a vehicle.

at best I think some have got it down to one year using computer modeling, but that's hardly enough data for reliability - I think Ford was doing this and we all know what giant heaps of **** their cars are.
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Looks alright. The front is pretty damn ugly though.
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The sporty compact car Subaru and Toyota were developing together has been put on hold because of the worldwide economic slowdown, both companies confirm.

The 2+2 compact sporty car had been slated to use a version of the Subaru Impreza's platform, horizontally opposed boxer engine and transmission. It reportedly modified Subaru's all-wheel drive drivetrain to a rear-drive setup and moved the engine slightly rearward in the chassis to improve weight distribution.

The car would have filled one of the few obvious gaps in Toyota's lineup, a small and affordable sporty car.

It would also have given Subaru a performance model priced below the $24,995 all-wheel drive Impreza WRX.

The Toyota and Subaru models reportedly had different exterior designs.
It's dead again.

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Old 02-27-2009, 06:33 AM   #179
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It's dead again.
nobody believed me but they all believe you because you're the legitimate source.
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nobody believed me but they all believe you because you're the legitimate source.
He probably read it from Detroit Free Press columnist Mark Phelan. Is he a more legitimate source than Toyota's president?
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looks like a lexus... IS350
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The "Toyobaru" is "Still on Track"
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If you've recently read a story or two about the delay, or even the demise, of the compact sport coupe that Toyota and Subaru are jointly working on, don't believe it. That's the message from knowledgeable PR sources in Japan, who tell Inside Line that this intriguing sports car program is still very much on track.

Both representatives from Toyota and Subaru's press offices in Tokyo have recently denied the story. "The project is still on track, according to the info I have on hand," says a Toyota spokesperson.

What has changed is the production site. The original idea was for Subaru to build a completely new factory in Oizumi, in Japan's Gunma prefecture, to build the car. But the economic crisis has now prompted Subaru to can that project, so the Toyobaru, when it is built, will be made inside Subaru's long-serving Gunma main plant, which is now due to be refurbished.
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The bet's still on marc.

It will come to America as a Scion for the Toyota version.
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Toyobaru RWD rumoured to be named Celica!

Looks like they will be reviving the name once and for all.... obviously we all know about the car but now that it's actually called Celica it takes on a whole different meaning to the members of this forum. I guess it's all in the name....

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/23/r...ubaru-rwd-car/

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Lets hope they make it at a toyota plant now.
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woohoo to bad i could never afford a new car.
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So? Toyota and now Subaru are just shadows of what they used to be before the year 2000.

The only thing they are going to get probably is to sink a little further the name "celica" in the mud with this new version.
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...What?
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Neat.

But even if they make that car the next tC, I'm still very interested... rose, name, sweet, etc.
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I was growing rather fond of owning the last generation of the Celica. This thing's been on again off again so much that I just shrug off any report as just rumours.
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...What?
What What?

What good is coming from Toyota these days sir?
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Toyota is going to show this concept on the 2009 Tokyo Auto Show in October.

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Another highlight of the Toyota stand will be the reveal of a project rumored to have been put on hold — the Toyota-Subaru jointly developed rear-wheel-drive coupe that employs an Impreza platform and drivetrain. To improve mileage and emissions of the current normally aspirated four-cylinder boxer engine, Toyota has developed a unique head unit for the boxer power plant, said to generate around 220 horsepower. Toyota will also display a full range of hybrid and plug-in hybrid vehicles as well as the latest EV and battery technology.
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Lies.

If the FT-HS came out as the supra with a hybrid option, people would have eaten that car up for breakfast with steadily increasing sales, assuming the interior, performance, and reliability were OK to the competitors. 6 Cylinders and 30 mpg in a RWD sports car would have been a great selling point.

If they can't TRD this up, or throw some scion badges on it to hype it up to kids, oh well. I bet the NA variant will go to scion, and the hybrid variant will stay with Toyota. But I doubt that since that would attack prius sales. A hybrid 370z fighter with 30 mpg would be a better choice.
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There is always a big difference between what youngsters want and what they actually buy!
Supra cost around $40,000 when the dollar had more value. Too expensive for a student. That's why people didn't buy it.

You can go and buy Lexus IS-F with 416hp for $56,000 or Lexus GS Hybrid with 340hp for $56,000. Do you have enough money?
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I remember late '99 when the 7th gen first hit. The looks really were polarizing at that time. Folks either loved it or hated it.

I drove by the local dealership every day for two weeks when the SCC article came out on it. After that, I know I WANTED to like the looks more. It wasn't another 2 wks when I started to call local dealerships and ask about the as-yet unarrived GT-S model.

This time around it looks like too little power and that prior-gen Ford Focus rear fender is a huge turn-off. *Shrugs* I guess, since Subaru's involved, it had to be beaten with the ugly stick. *Laugh*

But, remember, back in late '99, the GT-S stickered for right at 25K or so.

Even if they dropped a 2zz in it, you'd get 7th-gen GT-S speed, but I can't imagine the car would handle or look/feel as nice.

Time will tell if it grows on me or if they put any decent drivetrain in it.
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More "news" on the 086A

http://www.7tune.com/086a-to-use-new-legacy-base/

The Second Coming..

With rumors of cancellations and postponements abound for the new Toyota/Subaru sports car, new rumors have sprung up showing that Toyota are still in fact keeping to plan and not letting the global financial crisis get in the way of development.


New Legacy Base

With the green light on for a new coupe to follow in the footsteps of the
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I'd rather see a Toyota-only effort. I don't understand their aversion to doing it...
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2012 again... we will be all dead by then
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If this future car truly is a reincarnation of the AE86, Toyota and Subaru will have a big hit on their hands.

In fact, most of the engineering seems to be coming from the company known for its all-wheel-drive rally cars. Powering the future coupe will be Subaru's 2.0-liter flat-4 equipped with a new direct-injection system, tuned to produce an impressive 200 bhp and 145 lb.-ft. of torque. We predict the car will weigh about 2700 lb., so expect fairly quick acceleration times, probably around 6.0 sec. to 60 mph. The suspension will consist of MacPherson struts up front and a multilink setup at the rear, with the chassis based on that of the Subaru Impreza and Legacy.

Toyota will mainly be in charge of the car's styling. Although both Toyota and Subaru versions will be offered, the two models won't look much different, apart from badging — think Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe.
No new info about the car, with the exception of this new rendering.

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