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Old 07-02-2007, 08:19 AM   #51
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Pin 7 - OVL+ (VVL +)
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thank a lot dude !! that work pretty well i like my lift !!
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:44 AM   #53
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OK, I think I just got in the last part necessary for this swap. I have a 01 GT with no engine and a 5sp. I purchased an 01 2zzge with 01 harness and 01 gauges out of the same wrecked Celica GT-S. 2zzge 01 MT ECU and a 2001 GT-S Midpipe from members of the board.

I have AC and cruise control on the GT is that throttle cable from a GT-S really necessary?

I'll be keeping the 5sp for the time being.
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I have AC and cruise control on the GT is that throttle cable from a GT-S really necessary?
They're different lengths, so yeah. I think the GT cable is longer, but I could have it backwards.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:34 AM   #55
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Thanks for the reply longer is better right? So I should be able to use the one I currently have. Can anyone else shed any light on the subject?
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:30 AM   #56
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Yea,, the throttle cable is REALLY neccessary because the gt throttle cable has a metal bend that just won't work on the gts throttle body..

If you do this swap it would also be an ideal time to do a few extra modifications to put your new motor on blast..

Get a Intake Manifold Gasket by Hondata.. cheap and easy. Very little gain
Motor Mounts - Easy to install since the motors ganna be out anyway.
Clutch - Obviously since the motors out.
Fidanza Flywheel - I thank this mod for helpin me beat those RSX-S!
Boosted 2.0 - Polydex oil add-in
Boosted ported headerz - Most headers u get on a used engine are crap, get um ported by boosted since they are easy to access!~
All these mods are pretty cheap xept for the flywheel-clutch... the swap is in the thousands so doing these extra mods should really be considered! If you bother to do a 2zz swap u must be serious about getting more horse and this will help lots... and SOOO much more fun when you hit lift in your car for the first time!
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Yea,, the throttle cable is REALLY neccessary because the gt throttle cable has a metal bend that just won't work on the gts throttle body..

If you do this swap it would also be an ideal time to do a few extra modifications to put your new motor on blast..

Get a Intake Manifold Gasket by Hondata.. cheap and easy. Very little gain
Motor Mounts - Easy to install since the motors ganna be out anyway.
Clutch - Obviously since the motors out.
Fidanza Flywheel - I thank this mod for helpin me beat those RSX-S!
Boosted 2.0 - Polydex oil add-in
Boosted ported headerz - Most headers u get on a used engine are crap, get um ported by boosted since they are easy to access!~
All these mods are pretty cheap xept for the flywheel-clutch... the swap is in the thousands so doing these extra mods should really be considered! If you bother to do a 2zz swap u must be serious about getting more horse and this will help lots... and SOOO much more fun when you hit lift in your car for the first time!
Thanks for the assistance. I got the throttle cable today as a matter of fact, where did you get your Hondata IMG from and which one should I order?
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you can order it from the hondata website or from e-bay and places like that just be wary of knock offs.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:29 PM   #59
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Sorry I don't remember..Just get it from a legit site.. don't go throu Ebay... Find a site that sell lots of good performance parts. the store i called had like 5 in stock...
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A poor man in France need informations on swap !

Hi all !

First the presentation ! I'm from france and own a toyota celica 2000 GT. Unfortunately after a miss shift my engine is broked ! A friend of mine works in a industry which fixed cylinder head and after test it's not possible to fix !

So I would like to swap a 2zz-ge into my car but here in France it's not possible to find one.

There is some difference between french celica and us one. Mine is a stock GT with 6 speed tranny manual and AC automatic for example. And I think there is some difference in engine coolant system too.

So here is my question : First can I buy a used 2zz-ge on MWR website and second can I buy all the parts I need on MWR website and be sure that it will fit my car ?

I sent an email to MWR and I'm still waiting an answer ...

It would be nice if I can have some help here

Sorry for my english !!!!
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Old 12-22-2007, 05:49 PM   #61
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Actually it means a large gain in Horsepower. Backpressure = loss of power. It is not good or helpful in any way.
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Hi all !

First the presentation ! I'm from france and own a toyota celica 2000 GT. Unfortunately after a miss shift my engine is broked ! A friend of mine works in a industry which fixed cylinder head and after test it's not possible to fix !

So I would like to swap a 2zz-ge into my car but here in France it's not possible to find one.

There is some difference between french celica and us one. Mine is a stock GT with 6 speed tranny manual and AC automatic for example. And I think there is some difference in engine coolant system too.

So here is my question : First can I buy a used 2zz-ge on MWR website and second can I buy all the parts I need on MWR website and be sure that it will fit my car ?

I sent an email to MWR and I'm still waiting an answer ...

It would be nice if I can have some help here

Sorry for my english !!!!
MWR can probably get you everything you will need
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:51 AM   #63
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Thanks for your answer ..

As I said in pm to two members, here in France nobody can have used engine even the 1zz and toyota ask 8000
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I know there are some minor differences: digital climate control, roof antenna, rear bumper lights, in dash navigation, etc but I think mechanically they are the same.
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is it possible to re use the 1zz harness or do i half to get the 2zz harness?
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Old 12-28-2007, 03:27 PM   #66
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is it possible to re use the 1zz harness or do i half to get the 2zz harness?
You'll have to either re-wire everything yourself in a custom setup, or contact LittleRocketSpyder and buy a swap harness from him.
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You'll have to either re-wire everything yourself in a custom setup, or contact LittleRocketSpyder and buy a swap harness from him.
Why would he need a swap harness? A 2zz one should work,correct?
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:38 PM   #68
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You'll have to either re-wire everything yourself in a custom setup, or contact LittleRocketSpyder and buy a swap harness from him.
Why would he need a swap harness? A 2zz one should work,correct?
I know with the spyder swap the harnesses don't match up, so a custom one is needed, maybe it's not necessary on the Celica?
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:58 AM   #69
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The Celica harness is fine but you need to add 3 wires for the VVTL OVC and oil Press. sensor. I think you may also need to re-pin one or two others.
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Hi, new to the site, just in the process of sorting out this swap.

Got myself a wrecked Celica with a 2zz-ge as a donor car, so think i have every part i'll need.

From reading this thread i'm figuring i'll need to need to change one of the engine mounts, which can be taken from the donor car? then i take out the engine, tranny, flywheel, clutch etc all in 1, and simply slot it into my car, use the ECU and wiring harness from the donor car, and change over the dash dials

is that about it?

anyone actually got a walkthrough guide or pics? some of the links you guys point to no longer work.

cheers in advance, this thread is so helpful
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Old 03-29-2008, 06:05 PM   #71
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Hi,

I just received my 2ZZ engine. My first problem for the swap is the knock sensor. I took back my engine harness from my 1zz, my knock sensor was a 1 wire one and I have a 2 wire on the 2zz. The GTS ECU I received with the engine is a 2000 one. Can I do something to fit this ?
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I've seen some good reasons to get a 2zz engine for a swap like if you have an MR2 that only comes with the gt engine or your engine blew up.. But I think the price of swapping out the engine in other instances isn't worth it, like the difference in price between trading in your GT for a GTS has to be pretty similar and the parts are all going to be perfectly installed with no hastle.. and the price is similar to putting a turbo on a GT and the GT I hear accepts turbos better anyways and some guys go from GTS to GT motor for that reason. It seems like alot of work for something that could be accomplished much more easily.
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As I wrote up earlier in this thread I blew up my motor and it's for that I make a swap. But that didn't answer to my question for my knock sensor ...

Anyone have an idea please ?
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Old 03-30-2008, 06:53 AM   #74
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You have to swap to a single-wire knock sensor. Just get a new one from Toyota and your harness will plug right into it. Make sure and pay attention to the torque spec on the sensor. If you overtighten it, it can lead to incorrect readings.
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Hey, Jesse -- this seems to be another very commonly asked about issue. Maybe this thread should be stickied too
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:03 AM   #76
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Hi,

I have a problem here in France to order parts from Toyota dealer without serial number and VIN. Does anyone can give me one in order to order the passenger side engine mount ?

I hate France !

Thanks to all
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Hey, Jesse -- this seems to be another very commonly asked about issue. Maybe this thread should be stickied too
Fail. Its already there.

https://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=214875

As you can see, there are far too many "sticky worthy" topics in this forum so we decided to make the table of contents. Nobody was using it nor was anyone really contributing to adding additional topics, so Boosted and I lost interest.
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Some great info here guys, but can anyone that has done the swap show me pics of the engine being lifted out? I am in the process of doing the swap, but can't find anywhere on the engine to connect the engine crane/hoist/lift.

anyone got suggestions as to where to attach the crane?
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The are threaded holes on the front of the head (passenger side) and back of the head (deivers side that take a 14mm bolt and are designed to take the factory lifting hooks if you buy them.

The part numbers for the hooks are 12281-88600 and 12282-88600
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Thanks, ended up using rope in the end, did the job. Have got as far as taking the 2ZZ out of my donor car, and disconnected/removing wiring loom, radiator and all pipes from the 1ZZ, so nearly ready.

Gonna stick with the 1ZZ gearbox and wiring loom, so next weekend we should have the 2ZZ in, and maybe running if we can figure these 3 wires out.

I'm doing a report with loads of photos so will post them up once its done.
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I'm currently busy with swapping my 1ZZ engine for a 2ZZ and I was wondering if I can mount my stock 1ZZ exhaust to the 2ZZ midpipe. This is a temporary solution until I've ordered a more free flowing exhaust.
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just for future reference excuse my stupidity.
but obviously im a newb (hence the one post), i own a 2003 corolla "s" and i have EVERYTHING from an XRS. i wanted to do the swap but what would i need? from what i was told that im gonna need the harness's from the motor down to the alarm to the doors because the 03-05 has different wirings. is this true? and YES i know this is a celica forum but no one has swapped the XRS into a rolla yet so i figure you folks could help me. again excuse me and please help me.
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I'm currently busy with swapping my 1ZZ engine for a 2ZZ and I was wondering if I can mount my stock 1ZZ exhaust to the 2ZZ midpipe. This is a temporary solution until I've ordered a more free flowing exhaust.
That should be fine I'm still running my aftermarket Gt exhaust.



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just for future reference excuse my stupidity.
but obviously im a newb (hence the one post), i own a 2003 corolla "s" and i have EVERYTHING from an XRS. i wanted to do the swap but what would i need? from what i was told that im gonna need the harness's from the motor down to the alarm to the doors because the 03-05 has different wirings. is this true? and YES i know this is a celica forum but no one has swapped the XRS into a rolla yet so i figure you folks could help me. again excuse me and please help me.
That doesn't sound right to me. If you have the engine harness and everything plugs up correctly to the underside of the fuse box the rest really shouldn't matter. This is coming from someone who did this swap themselves. I could be wrong but from a logical stand point it just doesn't make sense.
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the same thing that i thought. but today we are gonna be taking out the motor from my XRS shell so we're gonna study the harness today to see if the changes are needed. thnx.
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I have a nice 02 Gt with a blowen tranny, so i bought a smashed 03 gts, i have the whole car ! can i just drop the 2zz in change the tack ECU, Throttle cable from cruise control, computer and go ?? or do i have to hack wires ?? Im also parting the rest of the car out windos, doors, tail lights ect. tag me if you want something.

What does DBW mean ??
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DBW means Drive By Wire, means theres no throttle cable. As for the rest of your questions, read this thread.
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hey guys. i am also thinking about swapping the engine. so .. sry for this question .. but: is it important to buy a engine from a lhd (left hand drive) celica or not? because i live in austria and if this is not important if the celica was rhd or lhd i would buy the engine from uk.

or maybe i can buy a frontclip from japane?

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hey guys. i am also thinking about swapping the engine. so .. sry for this question .. but: is it important to buy a engine from a lhd (left hand drive) celica or not? because i live in austria and if this is not important if the celica was rhd or lhd i would buy the engine from uk.

or maybe i can buy a frontclip from japane?

thanks for your help
I see you found the site! I hope you'll find all the information you need.

Don't think it matters. The engines are the same. Just wondering about the throttle and shift cables.

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What about the powersteering pump?????? From 00 1zz to 01 2zz???

My sparepart guy thlls me that there is a difference
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Is there going to be a problem when i mount a 2002 Gts long block into my 2001 Gts engine bay? There is nothing mounted on the new block, i have to put everything from the old block over to the new. Will i encounter any problems? Like knocksensor problems?
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I'm planning on doing the 2zz swap into my 2000 GT, just a few things I'm concerned about. As far as my shifter goes, will I have 2 swap it out? If I buy the GTS wiring harness I shoodn't have a problem wiring everything (knock sensor, lift, etc...). Could I just buy a cluster from a GTS and replace mine?
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I'm planning on doing the 2zz swap into my 2000 GT, just a few things I'm concerned about. As far as my shifter goes, will I have 2 swap it out? If I buy the GTS wiring harness I shoodn't have a problem wiring everything (knock sensor, lift, etc...). Could I just buy a cluster from a GTS and replace mine?
The shifter is not an issue, If you get a GTS wiring harness it will work fine, same with the cluster. Good Luck.
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Old 03-14-2009, 09:42 PM   #93
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is it any worth to convert my gt 2000 auto to gts 6 speed ?? i love my car and its slow for sure...just thinking should i do this route or save up for a 370 z?


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Old 03-14-2009, 09:57 PM   #94
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just thinking should i do this route or save up for a 370 z?
If it were me, I'd save up for the 370Z and get rid of the Celica. Just upgrade to a superior (subjective) car and don't waste the money spending to convert your auto to a 6speed.
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:21 PM   #95
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Okay, I have a 2001 Celica GT! It is burning oil like crazy, around 1 quart per 700 miles. I have found a 2004 Matrix XRS motor/tranny/wire harness/alternator/ignition/ecu. What I am wondering is what problems I may run into in the swap. From reading this thread I understand my tach on my gauges will not work unless I find a GTS gauge cluster. But what I am wondering is what I do as far as the ECU. I understand that the 04 XRS will be DBW and my 01 uses a throttle cable. Now do I have to get a earlier ECU and throttle body from a earlier GTS or could I get a throttle mechanism (gas pedal) from a 04 GTS and make my 01 DBW and use the 04 ECU. Just trying to figure out what all I need before I order the parts. Any input is appreciated! Thanks
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:34 PM   #96
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is it any worth to convert my gt 2000 auto to gts 6 speed ?? i love my car and its slow for sure...just thinking should i do this route or save up for a 370 z?
imo, sell the gt and put the money your going to use in investing to buy all the parts for a swap and just get the GTS, that's what i did, i was quoted around 4k for the swap, including motor, tranny, etc and labor, so i sold my celi, added almost 3k and got me a gts
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Ya, thats not an option for me. I just striped my entire car down and had it repainted, so I have to much money invested in it to do that!
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how much does a throttle cable cost? anyone know?
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Old 04-09-2009, 11:01 AM   #99
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how much does a throttle cable cost? anyone know?
Around 80 bucks.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:44 AM   #100
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What its that 00-03 2zz... what is special about them, and why not use the newer ones?
is it that higher Rev limiter models?
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