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Old 02-19-2006, 07:50 PM   #1
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How To: Tint Your TYC Tail Lights

Hey guys, here are some updated pics of my FINISHED TYC tail project! The trick I learned to buffing them out to a mirror like finish was:

3m 1000 - 1500 grit scratch remover
Mothers Polishing Ball (GREAT tool!)
Turtle Wax Platnium paste Wax






if anyone is interested here is a write up:

To tint your TYC Tail Lights you will need:

TYC Lights
1 VHT Nightshade
1 roll of Green Painter's Tape
1 Utility Knife
1 pack of 2000 wet/dry paper
1 3M 1000 - 1500 Grit Scratch Remover/Fine Cut Compound
Suggestion: Mother's Polishing Ball for your drill
1 wax, I use Turtle Wax Platnium Gloss paste

First tape your whole light off, meaning tape of the plastic part found on each side that goes on the trunk. Next, if you want to have the reverse light clear this is where it gets tricky.... lay the painters tape over the reverse light part on the tail light. Try to overlap the tape minimally to cover the entire clear part.... get under a very good light and you should be able to see a faint outline of the reverse light. If you van get your knife just right, you will be able to put your knife between the clear part and the red part of the light ever so slightly. This will allow you to apply a minimal amount of force to the knife and by having it in that groove it will naturally follow the curves of the light. After all that is done prep with soap and water or do what I did and use rubbing alcohol. Next comes the painting part.....

To paint these right, paint them at chest level, NEVER on the ground.... painting on the ground is a big no no.... After your little painting table is setup, I applied the VHT Nightshade to the top and the inside of the light first. I left the part that other drivers will see to be hit last because if you spray the main part first and then do your sides you run into the chance of overspraying the Nightshade back onto the main part. SO basically it looked like this:

2 paint swipes uptop
2 paint swipes on the side
# of swipes needed to coat the outside of the light
= 1 painting "stage"

I did 7 paint "stages" on my lights

After about 15 or 20 mins the light should be dry, WET SAND WITH 2000 GRIT PAPER!!!! This is key if you want a mirror like finish otherwise you will get the ugly orange peel. You really won't see a significant tint until you hit the 4th coat with the VHT Nightshade so don't worry, just wetsand and paint. After you get to your desired tint amount, apply a clear coat to protect it, I just used basic Duplicolor Acrylic CLear Enamel for this part. SHoot clear on it, wetsand with 2000 grit, shoot another clear and wetsand with 2000 grit again. 2 Coats of clear is ample for the lights. Now YOU WILL have hairline scratches on your lights and they WILL look fuzzy and hazzy so don't kill yourself just yet. You HAVEN'T RUINED them... they just need to be polished! The BEST polisher/scratch remover I found was the 3M 1000-1500 grit fine cut compound.... cost 10$ at National Auto and works like a charm. I also decided to pick up the Mother's Polishing Ball for the drill and I thik I found a new love.... that thing makes life soooo much easier and does a fantastic job! Just apply the 3M liiquid to the light and buff and then do it again. To be safe I did 2 jobs with the 3M liquid on both lights. After all is said and done your light should be becoming more shiney... but wait you still need to wax it! For this I used Turtle Wax Platnium Gloss paste wax... apply a wax coat to each light and wait about 15-20 mins to rub off and you will be done. All in all you will need about 3-4 hours to do this whole project. But as you guys can see, it is WELL worth it!

The 3M liquid and the Mother's ball does wonders on the headlights too!

Also I would like to give props to the NC.org guy, I forgot your name sorry man, who introduced me to the 3M stuff, thanks a lot man!
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Old 02-19-2006, 08:18 PM   #2
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very nice - did you use vht nightshade?
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yes sir I did, best stuff hands down... another plus is that it is $8 a can!
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where can u get that nightshade spray at?
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its so niceeeee
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nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hehe thanks a lot for the compliments guys!!! this VHT Nightshade can be found at A and A Auto, or I can pick 1 up and mail it to you for 15$, the PSU campus I go to has a store right by it so it would not be a big problem, one can does both lights.

thanks for the compliments again guys, really appreciate it!
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That does look neat... can you describe how you applied it...how many coats etc? Thx
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wow very nice.
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Old 02-20-2006, 07:25 AM   #10
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sure here is a quick write up.........

To tint your TYC Tail Lights you will need:


TYC Lights
1 VHT Nightshade
1 roll of Green Painter's Tape
1 Utility Knife
1 pack of 2000 wet/dry paper
1 3M 1000 - 1500 Grit Scratch Remover/Fine Cut Compound
Suggestion: Mother's Polishing Ball for your drill
1 wax, I use Turtle Wax Platnium Gloss paste

First tape your whole light off, meaning tape of the plastic part found on each side that goes on the trunk. Next, if you want to have the reverse light clear this is where it gets tricky.... lay the painters tape over the reverse light part on the tail light. Try to overlap the tape minimally to cover the entire clear part.... get under a very good light and you should be able to see a faint outline of the reverse light. If you van get your knife just right, you will be able to put your knife between the clear part and the red part of the light ever so slightly. This will allow you to apply a minimal amount of force to the knife and by having it in that groove it will naturally follow the curves of the light. After all that is done prep with soap and water or do what I did and use rubbing alcohol. Next comes the painting part.....

To paint these right, paint them at chest level, NEVER on the ground.... painting on the ground is a big no no.... After your little painting table is setup, I applied the VHT Nightshade to the top and the inside of the light first. I left the part that other drivers will see to be hit last because if you spray the main part first and then do your sides you run into the chance of overspraying the Nightshade back onto the main part. SO basically it looked like this:

2 paint swipes uptop
2 paint swipes on the side
# of swipes needed to coat the outside of the light
= 1 painting "stage"

I did 7 paint "stages" on my lights

After about 15 or 20 mins the light should be dry, WET SAND WITH 2000 GRIT PAPER!!!! This is key if you want a mirror like finish otherwise you will get the ugly orange peel. You really won't see a significant tint until you hit the 4th coat with the VHT Nightshade so don't worry, just wetsand and paint. After you get to your desired tint amount, apply a clear coat to protect it, I just used basic Duplicolor Acrylic CLear Enamel for this part. SHoot clear on it, wetsand with 2000 grit, shoot another clear and wetsand with 2000 grit again. 2 Coats of clear is ample for the lights. Now YOU WILL have hairline scratches on your lights and they WILL look fuzzy and hazzy so don't kill yourself just yet. You HAVEN'T RUINED them... they just need to be polished! The BEST polisher/scratch remover I found was the 3M 1000-1500 grit fine cut compound.... cost 10$ at National Auto and works like a charm. I also decided to pick up the Mother's Polishing Ball for the drill and I thik I found a new love.... that thing makes life soooo much easier and does a fantastic job! Just apply the 3M liiquid to the light and buff and then do it again. To be safe I did 2 jobs with the 3M liquid on both lights. After all is said and done your light should be becoming more shiney... but wait you still need to wax it! For this I used Turtle Wax Platnium Gloss paste wax... apply a wax coat to each light and wait about 15-20 mins to rub off and you will be done. All in all you will need about 3-4 hours to do this whole project. But as you guys can see, it is WELL worth it!

The 3M liquid and the Mother's ball does wonders on the headlights too!

Also I would like to give props to the NC.org guy, I forgot your name sorry man, who introduced me to the 3M stuff, thanks a lot man!
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Looks excellent indeed. Thanks for the write-up!
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Old 02-20-2006, 09:53 AM   #13
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I knew they would look great with some polishing. Nice work.



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thanks evil eye!!!!!! can u throw the write up in the install section?
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Looks nice, I might have to do that if/when I switch to TYCs...
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that does look good
need to see it on the car tho
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my car is in pieces right now so i cant get it on there, sorry

appreciate the comments!
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looks really great . if you want, you can send them to me and i'll be more than happy to take some pics of them on my car . hehe, j/k. can't wait to see them on someone's car soon
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wow that turned out great buddy!! here is a similar writeup using your methode i did alittle while back.

http://www.allgencelica.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3992

but i am curious about that buffer ball thing ur talking about. any pics of it or where to get it? that could make my life easier
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hehe hombredelassrta your the guy i was giving props too! lol sorry bro i know ur car but forgot ur name lol.

here is the ball:

http://www.autogeek.net/mo5140.html

any auto parts store will carry it, going price is 25$
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Old 02-20-2006, 02:13 PM   #21
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edit:^ beat me to it.
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haha, score!
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LOL well i'm glad that i was of some help and thanks for the powerball tip, i will have to try it out
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Old 02-20-2006, 02:57 PM   #24
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Very nice result!!!

Can I wetsand and polish my blackout tail light to? I make my tails last summer, and next summer I would like to obtain your resultat cause I prefer the shiny look of your in place of mine...

This is my blackout tail!
I use 4-5 coat of nightshades...so My question is..Can I polish it after better with your method?

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you can go back and polish but u would probably need to use abit more course paper to get it more even if yours is bumpy now. clearcoating yours could help as well
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very nice work. i want to do that as well.
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thanks evil eye!!!!!! can u throw the write up in the install section?
I wish I could, but my moderator abilities don't extend beyond the for sale forums. Sorry.



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you can go back and polish but u would probably need to use abit more course paper to get it more even if yours is bumpy now. clearcoating yours could help as well
I clear coat it already...i think 2 little coat...maybe i just need to re-clearcoat it a few times?
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from my experience with something like that i would wetsand with 1000 grit.... then wetsand with 2000 grit and then polish with the mehtod that i used.. you will lose some of your tint but she will be very shiney!

evileye... how would i get that write up to the install section?
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evileye... how would i get that write up to the install section?
Edit your first post and add the write-up to it. Then PM larryd about it, he'll move it for you. I'm pretty sure that's how it works.



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Old 02-23-2006, 11:14 AM   #32
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Good writeup bro...shout out to Allentown...I live 10 miles south of there! He posted exactly what you need to do...that's exactly what I do. It's also very important to paint the top and inside sides first just like he said. Props for a great writeup!

Here's mine:


I did mine almost 2 years ago and they still look great. VHT niteshades is def. a good product...though can be tricky to work with, especially on old taillights or ones with weird curves.
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Old 02-25-2006, 02:16 PM   #33
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i tinted mine and was going to re-tint them, what would i need to do to take the old paint off? I have tried paint thinner and scrapping the paint off but it ends up scratching the tailight.
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wet sand with 1000 grit and keep working at them
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thx there lookin better already
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very nice work. i want to do that as well.
Hey vergel you down to get together sometime and do that? that would really look nice!!
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Old 03-01-2006, 03:08 PM   #37
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Hey DelltaDMX. Is there any diference between any of these. And the one you used. I ask this question because I plan on tearing apart my stock headlights. And instead of painting them black. I want to paint them smoke. I want to get as close as possible to the 03+ Hid Housings. And I want to know which is the best spray for the project. I know there are two types of VHT smoke spray. What's the diference and which one would work better?

SMOKE JDM LENS SPRAY


VHT Spray-On Smoke Tint or Black-Chrome


By the way these pics I found on ebay. If anyone else knows and wants to answer also. Be my guest. I need all the help I can get.

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Old 03-01-2006, 03:24 PM   #38
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damn. thaz fukiin sick man... can u tint mine? lol`
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The first one you posted isn't VHT, I have seen that on eBay but I have never used it. The second is window tinting, that isnt the tint spray. That spray doesn't let light through in the opposite direction.

This is what you need if you want to go VHT which is what I would recommend.


If you really want a can, my local shop has it for $8, I could mail it to you
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Well I want to paint the inside of the headlight. The insert(The piece that everyone paints black). Not the outside of the headlight. So I don't think lighting will be an issue. I want to get that light smoke tint that the 03+ Hid Housings have. Not too dark.

Like this:


PS: evil eye if there's a problem with me using your pic, let me know and i'll take it off quickly.
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ooo for that, yes lighting will NOT be an issue.... ask Evil Eye about the paint
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great post DelltaDMX!!!!!
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Old 03-24-2006, 09:37 AM   #43
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Has anyone tried tinting their headlights with this method??? ide like to do it but not as dark... but ive seen people leave the headlight part clear... do i need to? or could i maybe put 2 coats of the tint on the whole headlight and be able to see everything...?
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One, is there a generic store (AutoZone, Advance Auto Parts) that sells this? No where around here has it. Also, do you spray on the outside of the cover or the inside? Thanks.
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Just did this today - don't have a camera worht it's name to show it with, though. I found VHT Night Shades at Trick Trucks, if that helps anyone. In all, this was a bit expensive of a mod:

Night Shades: $8
Clear Enamel: $5
3M Polish: $7
Masking Tape: $4
Power Ball: $35 (got ripped off, should be $20)
Sand Paper: $4
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Everything was bought right at Advance Auto, except for the Night Shades and the Power Ball. (Buy the power ball at Advance, it's only $20).

Also, I was a complete painting newbie - never done it before to anything on a car. I had to look up wet-sanding on the net! For reference, you just use a spray bottle and spray down the sand paper, keeping it wet. I ended up just spraying the tail light housing, seemed to work. I still got some orange-peel effect, though. I'd recommend trying 1500 grit paper vs. 2000? And you really got to put some elbow grease into it, don't expect to get an even coat by just brushing the thing with the sand paper!

I used about 4 or 5 coats of the Night Shade, and my tails are almost solid black. Took me about 3-4 hours in total, as advertised - 5 coats of night shade, 2 coats of clear, 2 coats of polish, and 1 coat of wax.

They certainly don't look professionaly done, but they do look good!

Oh, to actually get the headlights out of the car is kind of a pain. First, unscrew to cargo net hooks with a large philips head. Then the rear trunk panel is held on by a false screw - just turn the screw a quarter turn, and it pops out. There are two fasters holding the rest of the back panel on, just push in the center, and pop 'em out with a flat-head screwdriver. At this point, the back panel should pry up and out. Then you can kind of pull the side panels away from the walls of the car to get at the hidden third nut holding the tail light housing in. They are 10mm nuts. You'll need a deep socket to get at them.

Has anyone successfully gotten the center high-mounted stoplight off the car? It's glued on there with trim adhesive.. i got it pried out about halfway but then i said screw it (it was too hot out to fight with it)! In order to get even that far, though, you have to take out the rubber gromets on the underside of the hatch, then you'll see 2 8mm nuts holding it on there, as well as they hose going to the windsheild washing pump.
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:32 PM   #46
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^Should have talked to me first...I do people's taillights for them for $45 including the cost of shipping

Yeah the taillights are a pain...and I also gave up on the 3rd brake light. IF you're lazy I think Bat makes a vinyl overlay.
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Old 11-13-2006, 12:58 PM   #47
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any1 kno how to tint them red.. except for the reverse lights... the black doesnt look bad, it just looks too much like a guy car for me
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:03 PM   #48
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For those of you who blacked out the stock tails:

Is there a reason you masked off the reverse lights? Is it illegal to black out the entire tail? Also, I'm considering doing just 50-60% blackout on stocks but covering the whole light. Anyone know if there would be a problem with that?
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It's just a personnal taste i think!

It looks cool witht the clear reverse light
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I got a few questions, why not paint on the ground, like a peice of cardboard? So do you paint on the inside or outside of the tail light? Or is it like the side of the inside and then you paint the main peice on the outside? If you do paint on the inside, do you also sand it?
I want to do this but I don't want to mess up and want to get everything straight before doing it.
I have 03 Tail Light I want to black out to match the rest of my car.

I pretty much got everything, just clean the crap out of it and apply the niteshade, sand, repeat til its dark enough then clearcoat, sand and once more, polish, ect.
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