TODAY WE DID THE EVER WAITING DYNO ON THE GT MODEL...
WHAT WE GOT 13.6 HP GAIN AND 23 FT OF TORQUE
WEAPON-R THANKS YOU FOR WAITING
WHAT WE GOT 13.6 HP GAIN AND 23 FT OF TORQUE
WEAPON-R THANKS YOU FOR WAITING
Dyno Results Are In!!! 2001 Gt Ecu
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The dyno law posted was my 3rd run on my 4th run I got 127 hp
and 118 lb/ft, those numbers are low, but I have seen other GT's with the same low numbers even with mods, so I shall leave that one alone.
How much are we looking at here?
Could we please recieve more detail?
and 118 lb/ft, those numbers are low, but I have seen other GT's with the same low numbers even with mods, so I shall leave that one alone.
How much are we looking at here?
Could we please recieve more detail?
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LIKE I SAID OURS WAS BASE TESTED WITH THE FOLLOW:
17" WHEELS
AEM INTAKE
87 GRADE FUEL
TRD EXHAUST
17" WHEELS
AEM INTAKE
87 GRADE FUEL
TRD EXHAUST
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Hey Daks-GT, how come your dyno match up with the new wepon-r ecu dyno? Your car was stock right? If so, then no improvement by getting the ecu.DaksGT said:
Dan
OMG, some people can not think logically.LovinDaCamSwitch said:
You can not just look at the dyno numbers of the WeaponR ECU, compare them to Dak's dyno and say there's no gain because the HP numbers are the same. They're TWO DIFFERENT cars!
WeaponR dyno'd a Celica that only had 113hp. That's the base. They changed the intake and the ECU. The hp is now 126. THERE WAS A 13HP INCREASE.
There is no reason to think there would not be a similar increase in hp and torque with any GT. So if you put the ECU on Dak's car, I would expect him to dyno somewhere around 135hp.
I dont understand, from the dyno sheets I've seen here the stock gt is only ONE hp less than the "modded one". Everyone needs to give out ALL the parameters for each dyno sheet. It's almost like pullin teeth here to find out a lot of important information on this dyno run. What gear was it in, what was the temp and barometer, what fuel, what was the hp of that car before it was "modded" with those HUGE ass monster truck size tires that are on it. I'm not pointing any fingers here But I do know there are a ton of ways to make a simple minor gain in HP look like a lot. Things like doing the initial dyno with horrible fuel, the engine HOT, during bad humid weather, Real low tire pressure, and in a real high gear. Then for the "improved" dyno run all these items get fixed and even without changing parts the next dyno run can show up to 15 HP better. I'm NOT saying this was how they got that 13 HP gain BUT by making us keep asking and asking and asking for info and only giving a little bit out at a time it makes us wonder if your hiding something... . SO please start over with a dyno run WITH a breakdown of all the details of what modds were done, and all the conditions which may affect the dyno run, like weather conditions for each run.
Hmmm...both dyno runs seem low. Granted, the 17's and the gas rob some HP, but shouldn't the AEM intake and TRD exhaust compensate for some of those losses? 113 hp is an EXTREMELY low baseline, as is 126 HP for a car with a modded ECU in addition to the other mods. Oh, well. I guess the only way to find out for sure whether the ECU is effective is to get an unbiased third-party to buy it and dyno it.Weapon-R Technician said:
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Ok heres the breakdown....
Car 2001 Celica GT
17" Rims & Tires
Fuel: 87 Octane
Gear Runs: 3rd Gear all runs
Aem CAI
Trd exhaust
Weather: 68 degree weather.com users enter 95125 for zip
What we changed
Intake, Weapon-R Dragon Intake (SR)
Added, Weapon-R ECU
Owner of the Vehicle Joel Morales, Customer
Car 2001 Celica GT
17" Rims & Tires
Fuel: 87 Octane
Gear Runs: 3rd Gear all runs
Aem CAI
Trd exhaust
Weather: 68 degree weather.com users enter 95125 for zip
What we changed
Intake, Weapon-R Dragon Intake (SR)
Added, Weapon-R ECU
Owner of the Vehicle Joel Morales, Customer
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Fourgig said:
OMG, some people can not think logically.
You can not just look at the dyno numbers of the WeaponR ECU, compare them to Dak's dyno and say there's no gain because the HP numbers are the same. They're TWO DIFFERENT cars!
WeaponR dyno'd a Celica that only had 113hp. That's the base. They changed the intake and the ECU. The hp is now 126. THERE WAS A 13HP INCREASE.
There is no reason to think there would not be a similar increase in hp and torque with any GT. So if you put the ECU on Dak's car, I would expect him to dyno somewhere around 135hp.
Well, kinda....the problem is for those who remember the last dyno disaster which compared one intake with the hood closed and no fan to their intake with a 747-sized fan blowing on it.....
Surprise, surprise, the intake with the giant fan dynoed higher.
The thing I'm trying to figure out is, why is the next lowest dyno for the GT 121? Most are in the 122 - 124 range. And this one dynoed at 126....which is where many of the other GT's are at with a CAI and exhaust.
This is either an awfully bad Celica to begin with, or something's a little fishy.....
I'd be interested to see someone like Dak have it on his car and dyno it....
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If you all think there is something "FISHY" about this, i am hoping that there are some member that can come to weapon-r and meet the customer who was nice enough to volunteer and maybe they can talk. We are not personal friends with Joel hes just a customer who has come by to help us out.
Weapon-R
also this thread was just to let you all know what we have done today, we are not trying to make you purchase this item. Its just information that we wanted to post for all of you to view
Weapon-R
also this thread was just to let you all know what we have done today, we are not trying to make you purchase this item. Its just information that we wanted to post for all of you to view
Weapon-R Technician said:
but you also posted
Ummm I'm confused... what intake did you have on there for what runs? If you were trying to establish a baseline for how much increase you got from your ECU how come you changed 2 parts?
In addition I'l like to know what you are doing with the VVTi - are you running stock maps for it, your own, or just leaving it alone in full retard?
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Our base test was with these parts.
17" Rims & Tires
Fuel: 87 Octane
Gear Runs: 3rd Gear all runs
Aem CAI
Trd exhaust
Weather: 68 degree weather.com users enter 95125 for zip
And then we changed
Intake, Weapon-R Dragon Intake (SR)
Added, Weapon-R ECU
17" Rims & Tires
Fuel: 87 Octane
Gear Runs: 3rd Gear all runs
Aem CAI
Trd exhaust
Weather: 68 degree weather.com users enter 95125 for zip
And then we changed
Intake, Weapon-R Dragon Intake (SR)
Added, Weapon-R ECU
Okay you know what? Forget it, I f_cking give up.... I dont even WANT to know what your results were or HOW you got them.. Like i'm supposed to go to a god damn weather website and type in your zip code and they're gonna know the exact barometric reading and humidity, and temp at the time and date that you dynoed that car? What do you publish that info in conjunction with weatherchannel? Once again you posted just a little bit more info and in so many words still didnt tell us crap. I really hate listening to salesman try and sell me something that they either: A) don't know damn thing about or B) think that I don't know a damn thing about. And this whole thread sounds exactly like a politician answering questions without actually answering them.
I'm wanting this ecu to be a good thing to talk about and have for our cars. I Just want to know the truth, plain and simple, without having to wonder.
Also by posting this "dyno" run YOU opened yourself up to question by US the potential buyers. You didnt post it just for fun did you? And I really hope you didnt think you'd just post it and think noone would question the very strange initial run.
I'm wanting this ecu to be a good thing to talk about and have for our cars. I Just want to know the truth, plain and simple, without having to wonder.
Also by posting this "dyno" run YOU opened yourself up to question by US the potential buyers. You didnt post it just for fun did you? And I really hope you didnt think you'd just post it and think noone would question the very strange initial run.
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First of all, when I went down to your shop, I thought u guys where doing a project for the GT-S??? and one of your tech's named George or James told me u will design one for the GT later and the GT-S is the most priority work for you guys??What happen to the project GT-S you guys where talking about???
Also, caps off please, it's like ur shouting @ us :thumbup:
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:bowdown: AMEN to that FLOFLO said:
Ok here is the breakdown on my car, it was dynoed on stock 15's the only mod at the time was a removed butterfly , I only used 94 octane from day one, wether that had something to do with it or not has been debated many times and I shall not go over it again, since then I went up on the dyno 2 weeks after I installed my injen and layed down 134 hp and an x number of torque (the dyno is at my cousins house), since that dyno my car recieved a motor back exhaust with a highflow cat etc... so all the exhaust goodies, I have a header coming in as we speak, and a wasted purchase (after research and advice from Griffin) of an HKS Super AFR (which I will install and tune on dyno day when the car is "complete with all the breathing mods).
After looking at the dyno of the waepon R ECU I would be interested to see what it could do on my car, but I WILL NOT put it on my car unless some kind of warranty is provided along with it, sorry Weapon R but you guys have a very bad rep.
With thta said and done I am highly intersted in seeing where this goes.
, I only used 94 octane from day one, wether that had something to do with it or not has been debated many times and I shall not go over it again, since then I went up on the dyno 2 weeks after I installed my injen and layed down 134 hp and an x number of torque (the dyno is at my cousins house), since that dyno my car recieved a motor back exhaust with a highflow cat etc... so all the exhaust goodies, I have a header coming in as we speak, and a wasted purchase (after research and advice from Griffin) of an HKS Super AFR (which I will install and tune on dyno day when the car is "complete with all the breathing mods).After looking at the dyno of the waepon R ECU I would be interested to see what it could do on my car, but I WILL NOT put it on my car unless some kind of warranty is provided along with it, sorry Weapon R but you guys have a very bad rep.
With thta said and done I am highly intersted in seeing where this goes.
Okay... the issue I have is that you changed 2 components. So we now have no idea of how much benefit is to be had from the ECU alone. Please don't take this as an attack - I'm just trying to help you out so that you'll know for next time. If you are trying to prove the value of a single part then you have to change just that part, unless said part has to be used in conjunction with somethign else. But if thats the case you have to say so up front In all reality I'm sure theres not much difference between the intakes, but it would be nice to know for sure.Weapon-R Technician said:
I'm also still curious about what you guys are doing with the VVTi - are you not using the intake cam adjustment? Are you runing a stock Map? One of your own?
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