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Hi all,

I currently have the standard 15' alloy but it looks very ugly. so i decided to go for the 17' sportivo alloy. BUT the problem is my insurance company (AMP) wont alloy me to have 17'. their biggest size which they will insure me is 16x6.5.

should i just change to ZR 16' or what should i do?

thanks for helping
 

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I have the 17 inch Toyota ones, they look great on the Celica. Just shop around and find another insurance company that is willing to cover you. I had to call like 10 companies before i found one at a decent price. 2nd good thing about the 17 inch Toyota rims is its covered under warranty for the remainder of your new car warranty.

Thirdly you get a new wheel tyre placard from the dealer for the 17 inch rims. So if you take of the 15inch tyre placard then you could potentialy drive on 19's and not get busted by a cop.

ZR rims look pretty good for factory alloy rims. Its up to you.

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Jason,

Do you think Toyota would give me a placard for the 17inch wheels even though I didnt buy my wheels from them? I currently have 18inch wheels, and if I had the 17inch placard I would have no probs with the authorities? Is it hard to get a new placard? Whats the cost?

As for the intial question, just change insurance companies. Most mainstream insurance companies have crap regulations with regards to modifications. It really depends on what you want.

I have a set of Original 16inch ZR wheels and Yokohama Tyres with 22000kms on them? where bouts u located? If I can get the placard from Toyota I might consider selling them.

Check out this website www.pyrahtobin.com.au for a good quote from specialist brokers. The manager Derek will look after you, as he has gotten me some very reasonable quotes on cars that I was interested in b4 I got my Celica. Depending on your age you should not have a problem.

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i find 2 insurance co that will insure 17' NRMA and the dealer i brought my car from also find one for me (global xxxx) they told me they only do dealers business and not general public.


also what is a placard?

will 17' slow down the car since more rubber on the road?

if i get 17' do i need to lower the car since the gap will increase or will it stay the same???

ps: i live around hornsby
 

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Depending what tyre size u get, it should not make much of a difference in performance. I think most ppl will reccomend 215/45 tyres. This should be almost the same rolling diameter as your standard wheels. The handling will improve, especially grip.

The placard is on the inner drivers door. When u open ur door u will see it on the inside part of the door or the car, cant remebember.

The gap with the standard size wheels is big, and the car needs to be lowered. With 17s, u will need to lower it at least 1.5inch. U could leave it standard height, but it will look a bit out of proportion. Its really personal preference.
 

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So the 17' will make the car look a 4wd?

do anyone have pics of their 17' and standard height before i decide it.

my parents dont want be to change insurance company cos they think AMP is the cheapest.

Last time when i had an accident (the car total) i waited 4 months for their cheque.

at the moment 16' is my preference but adding 1' to standard i think is waste of $$$$.
 

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it will look like a 4wd. get some decent quotes, and see what ur parents reckon when u show them that AMP is not the cheapest.

the 1inch increase for the celica is not worth it, as the guards are huge. I went from 16 to 18s, and the guards are fuller now and look alot better. And the lowering needed was not as much either.

17s are pretty much a good mix of comfort and looks. You can get alot of 17s for some good prices, just dont get that cheap chrome stuff, cause it flakes off.

Lowering the car bbout 1.5 at the front and 1.75 at the rear should set it up nicely. You can get lowered springs for about $400.00 at Allsprings in Liverpool. Thats where i got mine from.
 

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i got a quote from my dealer 60% NCB and 60% protection around $850.

But my parents never heard b4 and didnt like it. cos they dont like to be HIH victims.

They said if i have a crash (total) then it will take a long time for them to proced and if repair then they will only allow u to go to few places.

I think this is the case...i have to ask the dealer for more details i so busy now with exam (summer school).

i dont want to lower my car cos i dont like people touching my car. last time i went to toyota for service they put a dent in my car.

How can i fix it?

at the moment i looking at 16' cos it is cheaper and less problem for amp
 

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Matt, it does'nt hurt if you ask the dealer to supply the tire placard. But i don't think you really need it becos insurance companies allow a +2 upgrade on tyre/rim size from stock. Cops know this and since you got the ZR with 16's on them then went up 18's, it's not a problem. You might get busted for a bit too low and thats about all i can see them getting you for. You wont get defected for the 18's.

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any pics of 17' (toyota sportivo) and not lowered??

thanks

still not decided..

how much slower when i have 17' compare to 16" ???
 

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thanks a lot!

I will get the 16' now...cos parents dont want to change insurance company and 17' slow the car down (i have auto)

has any one have strut bar on their celica?

i dont know where i can order one
 

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Sounds good, happy hunting for wheels. Would you be interested in my 16inch ZR wheels? They have about 22K kms on the tyres, still in great condition. No scratches on the rims. I am in sydney.

As for parts, try whiteline as I think they are developing a strut bar at the moment along with other suspension parts from a post that was put here a few weeks ago.
Also, found this great website www.perfectrun.com.au for alot of Japanes auto parts. They have some good stuff for the Celica, alot of stuff that was previoulsy unavailable here in Aust. I am sure they had a strut bar listed. Anyone had any experience with them as yet?
 

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MATTZR: Depend on the price. i live around Hornsby. cos my friend is Toyota so i can get it at dealer price.

I checked the web site. There is nothing on our car.

Do anyone know if CUSCO has made a strut bar for our celica yet? cos i order from @%#@%#$ VISION FROM ARTARMON 6 months ago and still waiting.......

They r the worst place to go to get ur car fix!!!!!!!!
 

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R u guys serious...do u know how much toyota charges for ZR rims..... bloody 960 each without tyres.....its an abosolute rort

You wont get defected for the 18's.

who ever made dis comment is deeply mistaken as all of the police in syd esp highway patrol r now on da look out for my car cause i have had 4 defects for my rims which r 18inch AME's.......
i own a zr and the cops r so tight arse... i got busted by the same coppa 3 times and the last time he gave me a red label defect caause of the rims and the fact that i refused to obey his orders of takin it off....... also i have $750 worth of fines to pay off casue of all me defects...

i strongly suggest u talk to ur local tyre place about up gradin...

guys u are only allowed 26mm above the original size of your rims as stated by the RTA...... i had to get my vehicle inspected twice there to clear my defects in hornsby.........

so if u c my black celica pulled over please think of me as i;m gettin my arse whipped by the cops.....

i also live on da nth shore and have the worst record on the cops database...
i found dis out casue i haev a cop scanner and heard everythin on da airwaves..........

good luck guys cya
 

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ty801,

Going for the 17" sportivo rims should be a good upgrade for an SX with 15" wheels. You will not have any problems with the cops with 17". Those sportivo rims are damn expensive though, if you are going to upgrade, go to a wheel/tyre shop and you will save a lot of $$$

As for getting a strut brace, Perfectrun.com.au does not have anything. In fact, about the only thing they do have for our cars is the Tein coil-over suspension kit (very nice but very expensive)

I contacted Whiteline some time ago and they are developing suspension products for our cars and should start selling them in the next couple of months.

I looked at getting strut braces from the US and the shipping and exchange rate killed that idea. I am going to wait for whiteline to complete their products. They should be good quality and are Aussie made.

Hope this helps.

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Hey! Matty,

The rims r not expensive at all. $200 per wheel.
where can i get the number for Whiteline or u can tell me when they r available.

I ordered CUSCO strut bar from Vision at Artarmon but never arrive. I will get my money back next week.

PS: I thinking of getting a 16' from toyota. (not the ZR alloy) It looks like the 17' for celica it's for camry or avalon

u can get it out for toyota web site
look for sportivo products
 

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16" wheels are just too small for the Celica - it's got such damn big wheel arches!!

If you are going with 16", make sure that you get it lowered. I have the standard ZR wheels and I am getting the car lowered with King Springs (35mm front and 60mm back). At the moment it looks like a 4WD!

I'm surprised that Toyota rims would be so cheap - are you sure they are only $200 each for 17"?

Go to www.whiteline.com.au and follow the link to contact Whiteline - they might have some more definite dates for release of Celica products. They offered to fast-track the development of strut braces, since that was what I was most interested in. As soon as they become available I will put my order in!

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Aussies please read

i have a ZR celica... i want to put 18x8 rims on it with 215/35zr18 tyres... good or bad idea? problem with cops? should i stick with 17x7 215/40 tyres or 215/45 tyres?
 

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Well it depends if you would like to go more on performance or visual appearance.

If performance is preferred, you might want to consider a set of light weight, small diameter wheels. In this camp you have the JDM Rays Volk Racing TE37 which are known for their ultra light weights. For their 16x7 size they only weight around 5kg per corner. A little searching within in the forum on the subject of unsprung weight will tell you that the effect of reducing component weights below the suspenion returns you handling and response benefits in many folds, compared to reducing vehicle weight above the suspenion.

For TE37 the preferred wheel size for the ZZT231 Celica is 16 x 7, offset +33. Apart from wheel diameter, the width too determines the weight of the wheel.

Getting a wider tyre may benefit your acceleration but only if you have enough engine power to lay onto the tarmac to warrant for it. The wider the tyre the more drag (and tyre weight) working against your acceleration, so a balance exist between having just adequate rubber to lay down your horsepower, while not being in excess to lay down unneeded friction to hamper your getaway.

In terms of handling, a heavier vehicle will benefit from having a wider tyre for the weight of the vehicle to be distributed over the surface without overworking the tyre. However this benefit is offset when the fitted tyre is too wide, as wet handling relies on a sharper point of surface contact from the tyre to the ground (more weight concentrated on a smaller surface), on top of the ability for the tyre to adequately drain water. Excessive flexing of the tyre-wall will also result from having a tyre much wider than its wheel width.

If you are however more concerned with the visual appearance of different wheel tyres combo... It is very much a matter of personal preference and regretfully there isn't much I can contribute :D
 
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