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First Bugatti Veyron to crash on the Street

We only know of one other time a Bugatti Veyron has been wrecked, and that was during the car's development when a prototype was destroyed doing a high-speed test. There there was the time a preproduction Veyron performed a very public spin-out at Mazda's Laguna Seca Raceway during the Monterey Historics. These incidents actually delayed the debut of the production car, though perhaps it should have stayed in the oven a bit longer if its designers were worried about stability at speed.

Reports this morning are flooding in of the first known wreck of a Bugatti Veyron on public roads, and there are pictures to prove it. Very little is known about the circumstances expect that the crash occured in the U.K. and was apparently the result of hydroplaning. For a car with an MSRP well over a million bucks, we assumed that when hydroplaning is detected the car would immediately enter hovercraft mode, but we now know that's not the case.

We should end this post with that greatest of car wreck jokes: "Think that'll buff out?" No. No it won't.

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^I'd say 10 % of it's value?
 

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It's got two v8 engines with 4 turbos, and it's mid engine AWD...do you honestly care what it looks like or how much it costs should you have the money for it?!?!? It's a freakin rocket! I guess the hour long top gear review of the car is gone from youtube, but just look at this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjZub6AOue8

You CAN'T put a price on that power!!!
 

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Sure you can... About $60k

$30k for the supra
and another $30k for the mods
 

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Zenith said:
Sure you can... About $60k

$30k for the supra
and another $30k for the mods
Are we really going to resort to X modded car can be made faster then Y stock car for much cheaper then Y car costs? :tumble:
 

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He said you cannot put a price on that power. He said nothing about speed, looks, technology, etc. Get off my nuts and lrn2read.
 

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So you're saying the supra cannot get up to or surpass the veyrons stock power numbers? That's what I was saying. toolbag.
 

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Zenith said:
So you're saying the supra cannot get up to or surpass the veyrons stock power numbers? That's what I was saying. toolbag.
If you had a Supra that surpassed the Veryon's stock power numbers, you wouldn't be able to run it on the road. Besides being completely illegal, it would run like complete CRAP everywhere but on a drag strip. To have a car that has that much power, that much handling, and that much technology to make it run smoothly on a public road as well as being a beast on the drag strip and on any road course is where the cost factor comes in.

Any Honda Civic with $20,000 worth of upgrades can take on a Veyron at a drag strip, that's not the question and it's like comparing apples to oranges. To make a car equally great just driving around town, burning up a drag strip, and able to rip around curves on the Ring is an engineering marvel. It's the real reason why exotics cost so much.

Toolbag :chuckles:
 

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As much as I respect the supra, anyone who compares it in any way to a veyron is a tool bag. Sorry.
Supra blows. Theres not alot that compare to a veyron, some that are even close are the TT vipers or vettes, but still they fall behind the veyron in some factors.
 

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If you had a Supra that surpassed the Veryon's stock power numbers, you wouldn't be able to run it on the road. Besides being completely illegal, it would run like complete CRAP everywhere but on a drag strip. To have a car that has that much power, that much handling, and that much technology to make it run smoothly on a public road as well as being a beast on the drag strip and on any road course is where the cost factor comes in.

Any Honda Civic with $20,000 worth of upgrades can take on a Veyron at a drag strip, that's not the question and it's like comparing apples to oranges. To make a car equally great just driving around town, burning up a drag strip, and able to rip around curves on the Ring is an engineering marvel. It's the real reason why exotics cost so much.

Toolbag :chuckles:
GTsRasta said you can't put a price on that power. Obviously you can. It costs about 6mil to make one veyron? To get other cars up to that power even less. Who the hell said anything about the rest? who cares, that wasn't my point. I agree with you. However, you can put a price on that power, as I have yet AGAIN stated for the illiterate. lrn2read toolbag.
 

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Absolutely you can put a price on it's power. There are quite a few Supras already that surpass 1001 BHP....in WHP! I dunno what 1,300 WHP (like some select Supras are pushing) in BHP..but I know it's going to be reasonably more. To that literal point you're right. But I beleive the original point was more "read between the lines" and not exactly literal.

To me, "You can't put a price on that kind of power" = no other car is going to give you as much as the Bugatti Veyron does on any stage. Of course, that can be argued around quite a bit when other exotics come into play.
 

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Speed4TheNeed said:
Absolutely you can put a price on it's power. There are quite a few Supras already that surpass 1001 BHP....in WHP! I dunno what 1,300 WHP (like some select Supras are pushing) in BHP..but I know it's going to be reasonably more. To that literal point you're right. But I beleive the original point was more "read between the lines" and not exactly literal.

To me, "You can't put a price on that kind of power" = no other car is going to give you as much as the Bugatti Veyron does on any stage. Of course, that can be argued around quite a bit when other exotics come into play.
I agree with everything you've said. I said what I did to point out "power" isn't the only criteria that makes the veyron so unique. :)
 

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What differentiates the Pur Sang is its aluminum body shell, which is made from an extremely pure alloy that Bugatti specified, as ordinary aluminum can polish irregularly. Underneath that skin is a carbon fiber monocoque which not only makes the entire car extremely light, but also incredibly safe - something worth considering when the 4,200-pound Veyron, which still weighs less than a modern Saturn Vue, has a top speed of 248 miles per hour.

There is no word on pricing, but the usual disclaimer about asking applies.

Bugatti Press Release - Bugatti is presenting a special edition of the EB 16.4 Veyron limited to five worldwide - the Pur Sang - at the Frankfurt International Auto Show. The limited edition will be numerically consigned to the ranks of overall volume designed for 300 cars. With the Bugatti EB 16.4 Veyron Pur Sang the company is continuing a tradition that produced icons like the T57 SC Atlantic and the numerous versions of the T41 Royale. Then as now Bugatti stands for a unique symbiosis of art, design and technology. Precisely this claim - manifested by company founder Ettore Bugatti and his son Jean - is reflected by the EB 16.4 Veyron Pur Sang, presented in a world premiere in Frankfurt. Reduced to pure design and technology, a car was created here that again was not the means to an end, but in fact had become a work of art in the sum of its parts. The EB 16.4 Veyron Pur Sang completely forgoes exterior paint.

The idea for the EB 16.4 Veyron Pur Sang originated in the Bugatti factory in Molsheim. In what's referred to as the studio where the high-tech components of the Veyron are assembled with painstaking precision. "When some of our designers were looking at production and once again became aware of the technical beauty of the structure," says Achim Anscheidt, Head of Bugatti Design, "they came up with the idea of finishing the car in its pure material configuration. And that means without a coating of paint."

The result is the EB 16.4 Veyron Pur Sang, a study in which carbon and aluminum blend into a unique two-tone color, although no paint is involved. "Interestingly," explains Anscheidt, "the pure materials used to underscore even more clearly the unified extremes of this car. Power combined with comfort, technical structure and organic bodies, light and dark. A closer look at the details reveals the techincal logic behind the stylish appearance. The innovatively designed monocoque carries all main structural components, including the W16 engine, the passenger compartment, the crumple zone and the suspension. It's precisely this foundation determined by function, made of carbon fiber coated with clear paint, that lies open in view at the heart of the Veyron. The use of aluminum linings is equally forceful. Through the bold and muscular coverings of the wheels as a perfectly designed wing they lend the car its stature and the unique body sculpture. Polished to a mirror finish, these perfectly curved shapes make the facinating surface reflections visible that characterize the Veyron."

The balance of the visual impression is especially apparent when viewing the Bugatti from above. "These qualities," says Achim Anscheidt, "merge into a unique appearance - almost like a painting by Dutch artist Piet Mondrian." The outstanding representative of classical modern wanted to express the following in his art in the past century: "Beauty across the line and harmony by the balance of relationships between lines, colors and surfaces. But only in the clearest and most powerful way." This definition has also described a car for over six decades: the EB 16.4 Veyron Pur Sang. The two essential materials of the Pur Sang - thoroughbred in English - examined in detail:

Carbon Body

A car can never be light enough. This principal applies all the more so for the Bugatti Veyron, because it was designed for a sporty high performance. This is why the battle for each kilogram of weight has been one of the big constants in the development history of the Bugatti. Special attention was paid to materials: Only one material was used for each component, guaranteeing the best functionality at the lowest weight. Titanium, magnesium, aluminum and carbon fiber proved to be ideal.

Thanks to carbon fiber construction techniques, the monocoque of the EB 16.4 Veyron Pur Sang is not just especially light, but - as it is known for motorsport - extremely safe. The monocoque is not just a rigid survival compartment, but can also ideally dissipate crash energy through elastic deformation. The main responsibility for this lies with the frames in which the carbon fiber monocoque is integrated - done in aluminum in the front and in combination of the carbon fiber and stainless steel at the back.

Aluminum

The parts made of aluminum show the meticulousness and will to perfection the designers of Bugatti pursued in their work. And this doesn't just apply to the body. The reason for this is that aluminum is normally a recycled product, resulting in a variety of impurities in the alloys. This has no effect on the characteristics of the material, but on its appearance. After polishing and anodizing the aluminum there can be different degrees of gloss. Not so on the inside of the Veyron, where aluminum is used with the material corresponding to the body shell: If you look closely, you can see that there are no differences in gloss here. Because a single, special alloy is used exclusively in the Veyron: AlMgSi 0.3 Vitral 42. No work is done with other alloys.

All told, 1,888 kilogrammes of net weight stand in contrast to performance of 1,000 hp. This results in a power / weight ration of 1.88 kg/hp (4.15 lbs./hp) an excellent relationship that also positions the 400 km/h fast EB 16.4 Veyron Pur Sang beyond everything previously known.







I could not love a human baby as much as i love this car :wiggle:
 
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