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All-new Porsche 911 uncovered
Porsche will launch an all-new 911 next year, a car that will be thoroughly re-engineered in the face of increased supercar competition, while also featuring refreshed exterior styling and a much higher quality interior. Here, Autocar looks at the tech behind the new 911, codenamed 991.

Layout

The new model retains the classic rear-engined layout of the 997 and every other 911 since the original was introduced way back in 1963, albeit with modifications to the engine mounting points, which have been optimised for improved weight distribution.

As with today’s 911, the front-end structure, complete with its MacPherson strut suspension, has been designed to be shared with the Boxster, a third-generation model of which is due to reach the UK in March 2012. The rear end, with its reworked multi-link suspension, remains largely unique, and the steering uses an electro-mechanical set-up.

Body and weight

The next 911 retains a predominantly steel platform structure and a body constructed from a combination of steel, aluminium and plastic composites. A series of weight optimisation measures has pared kerb weight by around 45kg in base trim, bringing the new 911 Carrera down to around 1525kg.

Engines

The engine line-up is based around upgraded versions of Porsche’s six-cylinder, direct injection petrol unit, boasting incremental increases in power and torque and slight reductions in fuel consumption and CO2 emissions.

When UK sales get under way in 14 months’ time there will be a 3.6-litre engine with 365bhp and 295lb ft in the Carrera. It will be joined from the outset by a revised 3.8-litre powerplant delivering 415bhp and 325lb ft in the Carrera S.

Both engines will come with a six-speed manual gearbox as standard; the seven-speed PDK (Porsche Doppel Kupplung) unit is an option, with shift paddles behind the wheel. Automatic stop-start and a brake recuperation system are also planned, helping to provide a claimed 12 per cent gain in city driving economy for the rear-drive Carrera and Carrera S.

The Carrera S will also receive a standard electronically controlled differential and, in the four-wheel-drive Carrera 4S planned for October 2012, an electronic torque-vectoring device to complement the existing model’s long list of driving aids. Further variants will follow in time, including more powerful versions of the Turbo, GT3 and GT2.

Hybrid

Porsche is tight lipped about a petrol-electric 911. “We’ve already got a Cayenne hybrid and we are working on a similar solution for the Panamera. However, the 911 is a totally different proposition in terms of performance, weight and packaging,” said an insider, hinting such a model is still some way off.

Despite further studies into electric versions of the 911, Porsche sources suggest they will not be offered for sale to customers. “We are investigating pure electric drive systems but no decisions have been made on their production future,” said our source.


Deep Dive: 2011 Porsche 911
Porsche feels that the best remedy for this decline in sports car sales is fresh product with advanced technology, and thus is preparing the most ambitious 911 update in years.

Unlike the current-generation 997, which was a thoroughly revised 996, the next 911, codenamed 991, is definitely brand-new. Big advances include a redesigned suspension (albeit still the same basic strut-front, multilink-rear setup), electrically-assisted power steering, a push-button handbrake, optional twenty-inch wheels, more powerful engines, and last but not least, a seven-speed manual transmission. That's right, seven. Additionally, the 991 is said to be about 100 pounds lighter and ten percent more efficient than the current car. To achieve that last aim, Porsche is refining the aerodynamics, introducing a new thermo-management complete with advanced battery management technology, and incorporating stop-start technology and brake energy regeneration. There will also be new high-performance capacitors, which can store -- and release -- more electric power than a battery alone. Predictably, the next 911 remains loyal to the traditional rear-engine layout, but to improve cabin space, directional stability, and the handling at the limit, the rear axle moves back nearly three inches.

The 991 also seeks to set new standards in the ride and handling. That's why the Carrera S gets more powerful, six-piston front brakes, Porsche Torque Vectoring, optional dynamic engine mounts and a bunch of suspension-related wizardries labeled PDCC. Depending on model and specification, the ride height will be lower by 0.4 to 0.8 inches and the brake discs will sport a larger diameter. The S model features twenty-inch wheels and quad tailpipes. The base Carrera can be identified by dual oval exhausts, black brake calipers and nineteen-inch rims. In all models, the motorized tail spoiler automatically extends at 60 mph.

Inside, one finds a cockpit layout inspired by the Panamera. This applies in particular to the more legible instruments and the wider centre console, which rises from the transmission tunnel to the dashboard. New options include third-generation radar-based cruise control, dual-zone automatic air conditioning, keyless ignition, a Burmester sound system, and even more elaborate power seats. Thanks to the four-inch wheelbase extension, the 991 is said to be more spacious, more stable, and more comfortable. In terms of engines, the evolution is mild, with slightly more powerful direct-injected flat-sixes. The Carrera will be powered by a 350-hp 3.4-liter unit (up 5 hp from today's base 3.8-liter), while the S model benefits from a beefier 3.8-liter rated at 400 hp. Although Porsche has plug-in hybrid applications in the pipeline, it is still tight lipped about power, range, price, and timing. And, of course, there will be the aforementioned new seven-speed manual gearbox, which has been derived from the PDK dual-clutch automatic. We can't wait to come to grips with its dogleg shift pattern.

One year after the coupe debuts, Porsche plans to launch the cabriolet. If you think you've seen it all when it comes to novel drop tops, then wait until you get a look at this open-air model, which ditches the classic canvas roof for a lightweight retractable hardtop covered with man-made fabric. As far as novelty value goes, you really couldn't ask for much more than that.

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Wait till the actual thing, I have a feeling it's not going to look like the renderings much.
 

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electric steering - fail

curb weight of 3356 - fail

"increased driver aids" - fail

more elaborate power seats - fail

how many cupholders does this thing have?
 

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All the more reason to get the new Boxster. :drool:
 

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Update!

Report: Next-Gen Porsche 911 to Offer 7-Speed Manual, Plug-in Hybrid
As on the Panamera, the next 911 may get a fuel-saving engine start/stop feature as well as regenerative braking and new battery management technology. Electric power steering should help improve efficiency as well. For those concerned with flash, 20-in. wheels are said to be an option.

Just as the next-generation Chevrolet Corvette won't become a mid-engined car, the new 911 will remain rear-engined. Even so, handling is better thanks to the rear axle moved back almost three inches.

After seeing the upcoming Porsche Cayenne, it's no surprise that the new 911's interior will take cues from the inside of the Panamera.

The base engine, reports Automobile magazine, will be a 350-horsepower 3.4-liter six-cylinder engine. Perhaps learning from the development of the 918 Spyder and the 911 GT3 R Hybrid racer, Porsche may debut a plug-in hybrid (like the prototype we caught testing not long ago) during the course of the 991's lifecycle.
A deadly sin?
 

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Eh, emphasis is on the word "may" I think. The corvette "may" have sucked just like this "may"be a mortal sin. I doubt they will do it for at least another 4 years or so.
 

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So the new 911 is basically becoming a Panamera like coupe?
 

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So the new 911 is basically becoming a Panamera like coupe?
they've been pushing the 911 away from sports car and towards grand tourer for a long time.

One could argue since they made the first 928 with the intentions of that replacing the 911 (at which point customers bought the 911 at a 2-1 ratio).
 

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The 911 should be a race car. Should always be short and rear engine biased. Make a Panamera coupe for the people who want a GT with more lux, more room, and benign driver aided handling. Porsche is killing off the 911.
 

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The 911 should be a race car. Should always be short and rear engine biased. Make a Panamera coupe for the people who want a GT with more lux, more room, and benign driver aided handling. Porsche is killing off the 911.
they have the GT3, GT3 RS, GT2, GT2 RS and GT3 4.0 RS

not to mention Cayman R and Boxster Spyder

what more do you want?
 

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^ He probably doesn't realize that because porsches have a backseat they still can be beasts.
 

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they have the GT3, GT3 RS, GT2, GT2 RS and GT3 4.0 RS not to mention Cayman R and Boxster Spyder. what more do you want?
They have the GT2/RS, GT3/RS/4.0 for now. If the 911 continues to grow and weighed down with accessories... And, the Cayman R and Spyder are not GT2's and GT3's. Although the Cayman will likely go towards GT2/3 versions in the future. Porsche seems to be positioning the Cayman as the 911 replacement. Which is the point, they seem to be weeding out the 911, or more specifically a rear engined car in favor of mid and front engined cars. Not against the Cayman being improved upon, just that the iconic 911 should stay in the mix.
 
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