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That FWD concept of their is not even on the same grounds as the 86. :faint: Compete? Nissan, just add that along with your canceled Silvia project.
 

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ya right. the 200 turbo's were awesome, to bad we only got the lame 240 here in america. but i totaly agree they should bring that back to compete in the FRS/ genises league & Price range. But for the Z they need to go back to the 3L i6tt.

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No they don't.
Why not?

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If it is FWD, it will not compete except for FWD happy teenagers
 

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If their target's the FR-S/BRZ and their car is FWD they've failed already. Smart ones at Nissan, eh?
 

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I'm hoping that FWD mini-Z does not get called a Z..
 

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Nissan shelves small sports car plan
Nissan has killed a plan to build an affordable sports car that would have taken on the smash hit Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ twins.

The Japanese brand had developed a rear-drive coupe with a high performance engine that would have sat below the 370Z coupe at a similar price point to the 86 and BRZ, but abandoned the plan 18 months ago.

It was codenamed the New Small Sports and would have represented a vehicle close in concept to the iconic 200SX, which would have pitched it against the new 86/BRZ.

Nissan executive vice president Andy Palmer told CarAdvice the company decided to shelve plans for the affordable sports car because its target market would be adequately covered by the Juke crossover hatch, which was six months away from introduction.

“We departed from the 86 model and went down the road of the Juke,” he said.

“Gen Y and Gen Z is less interested that kind of execution of a sports car. For a younger generation that is a much more profound way of going to market.”


The Juke is currently not available in Australia, but Palmer all but confirmed it would come here although he refused to offer a timeline

“It should,” he said. “It is more of a question of time and something I am going to talk to [Nissan Australian managing director] Bill [Peffer] about today.”

While the Juke seems an unlikely option for the kind of people interested in a rear-drive coupe, Palmer says the Nismo version, which was revealed at Le Mans in June, was specifically created after the decision to kill off the affordable sports car.

The Nismo Juke runs a higher output version of the 1.6-litre turbo four-cylinder that serves the regular model and has a range of chassis upgrades including low-riding sports suspension. It is not related to the limited run Juke R, which uses the GT-R’s engine and all-wheel-drive system.

“The decision to go to Juke Nismo, lending that kind of performance to that kind of car is consciously our decision to get at those enthusiastic young, sports-oriented type of customers,” Palmer said.

When asked whether the success of the 86 and BRZ had shown Nissan should have continued with its New Small Sports model, Palmer questioned which customers were buying the 86.

“Who’s driving it?” he said.

Palmer said the customers in their late 20s and early 30s, who were the target of the small sports car, are in Generation Y and are on the cusp of Generation Z, which he argues are not as interested in cars like the 86 as previous generations.

“That generation has a different attitude towards sporty performance and a different attitude to life than I do or you do,” he said.

“We think it [Juke and Juke Nismo] is a much more relevant execution for them.”

Palmer said he would have to wait and see whether the decision to can the small sports car and go with Juke instead was the correct one, but is happy with the move at the moment.

“I’m selling 350,000 Jukes a year,” he said. “Generally, the demographics of Juke are lower than Nissan generally.”
Fark this guy

Link to article and comments http://www.caradvice.com.au/188821/nissan-shelves-small-sports-car-plan/
 

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What he said is quite true - research wise.

Not sure if anybody remembers it, but, Toyota did increased the age demography the GT86 to late 20s and early 30s person. But Andy Palmer sounds a bit defensive in that interview.

Nevertheless, guys like me who adores Toyota's coupe like Celica, Supra and now GT86 should are lucky because we have Akio Toyoda.
 

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There is always a market for affordable coupe, and i too didnt see why Toyota raised the age demographic market. But market research aside, there is no doubt gt86/brz/frs is selling hard.

So I think Nissan is just finding excuses and not in a position to make a car like gt86 at the moment. I heard Carlos Ghosn is resigning too.
 

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2016 Nissan 240Z Going Turbo Four



Four cylinders in a Nissan Z? Get used to it, because in 2016 the six-cylinder 370Z is set to be replaced with a smaller, lighter sportscar to give Toyota and Subaru a run for their money.


With the emergence of Toyota GT86/Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ, buyers may have trouble justifying the higher price of the Nissan 370Z. But the next-generation model is tipped to follow its rival's formula with a lighter, more efficient and likely more cost-effective four-cylinder Z-car to arrive as the current model's replacement around 2016. The report from Auto Express indicates that the new Z will ditch its traditional six-cylinder setup in favor of an inline-four - likely with a turbocharger - but just which engine remains a big question mark.'



The new Z could use an upgraded version of the 1.6 in the Juke or the 2.0 in the sister-company Renault's Megane RS, but a new engine being developed with Daimler could find its way under the hood instead. Nissan may also offer a six-cylinder version in smaller quantities, and a Nismo version could follow with a tighter suspension and more power, though we wouldn't be surprised if the Nismo and V6 versions ended up as one and the same. Whatever the engine, though, expect the new Z to continue the line of aggressive, muscular styling. As for the name, while the 370Z (like the 350Z and the 300ZX before it) tied their names to their engine displacements, the new model could follow others in the industry by divorcing its model name from its engine size. The new model could, then, revive the original 240Z's nameplate, but at this point those details are pure speculation.











http://carbuzz.com/news/2012/10/18/2016-Nissan-240Z-Going-Turbo-Four-7711232/


Can't wait for a Concept model and more news about this.
 

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Can't wait for a Concept model and more news about this.
I can. This is stupid.

The Z is not supposed to compete with the BRZ. Make a new, smaller car with for that.

The Z has always been a mid size sports coupe with 'bigger' engines.




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The Z is not supposed to compete with the BRZ. Make a new, smaller car with for that.
Silvia please :)

Keep the Z, keep it a 6cyl, keep the size, just keep making it more refined/sleek and make it lose some weight. Bring the Silvia back to compete with the BRZ/FRS. Done and done :)
 

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I agree a s16 should compete with the 86, the Z at the moment has no real direct competition here in Australia so it holds its own segment really.

The idea of a modern light weight 240z is making me a little excited to see the concept, I love 240s!!!!
 
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