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I'm not.
I voted in the primaries for the Bern; that backfired and was thrown in my face.

Are the frontrunners really our options? :hellno:
What a scam. Both parties. Utter scam.
I know Smaay is voting Trump.
 

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America's freak-show "entertainment" industry has brought a once strong nation to its knees.

Now, your vapid populace will gobble up anything spouted by celebrities. The quintessential reason for Trump's rise to power. LOL.
 

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America's freak-show "entertainment" industry has brought a once strong nation to its knees.

Now, your vapid populace will gobble up anything spouted by celebrities. The quintessential reason for Trump's rise to power. LOL.
But.... Trump is the champion of the working class people who feel completely disenfranchised from the great economic rebound we've had over the course of the last 8 years!

But.... Obamacare! The Devil himself masked in form of healthcare reform ...As if! People actually buy that crap (that Obamacare is the worst thing which has happened to Americans in last 20 years, not the actual event of purchasing Obamacare).

What do you fucking expect, honestly?

What bothers me, more, is the fact that my vote doesn't carry the same weight as people living in other states. What is democracy, anyway, when we have been living in an oligarchy? Clinton is part of that oligarchy, obviously, and so is Trump; and I am not attempting to defend her position or support her candidacy despite the fact almost (or more than?) a million more votes went towards her nomination. One million is a large number.
 

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We live in a Representative Republic, not a Democracy. It's a more Federalist approach.

They've not documented how many votes were from illegals and/or were the result of fraud.

Regardless, it's the Electoral College that settles Presidential elections. Both candidates knew that and campaigned accordingly. They didn't campaign in high population areas. One of the main reasons the EC was created was to prevent large population centers from over-riding the interest of rural areas. Otherwise, large population centers would be the Capitols and the rural areas would be the colonies all the time.

Hillary lost the areas she campaigned in. Trump won them.

Selecting something by popular vote is like two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

And economic numbers strongly disagree that there was much economic growth over the past eight years.

Obama campaigned on hope and change. Under President Obama, Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats. And Hillary was campaigning on more of the same.

The party that rigged their own Presidential Primaries lost in an historic fashion.
 

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The party that rigged their own Presidential Primaries lost in an historic fashion.
I felt the Bern and was not happy about it (hence the OP).

1. One of the main reasons the EC was created was to prevent large population centers from over-riding the interest of rural areas. 2. Otherwise, large population centers would be the Capitols and the rural areas would be the colonies all the time.
1. Yet it is then okay for rural votes in some particular states to be weighted more heavily than people living in urban areas?
2. I live in Pennsylvania. Obviously a huge swing state. You think gerrymandering doesn't occur? Cheapshots.

The 3/5th clause come to mind for any?

Funny, also, how outraged Trump was in the 2012 election (public outcries). Even tweeted, "The Electoral College is a disaster for a democracy!"

What are your thoughts on this? http://fusion.net/story/369039/electoral-college-racist-trump/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialshare&utm_content=theme_top_desktop

The end result: Civil war.
 

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I'm glad you can use Google and have zero curiosity about the actual facts. You're another robot with the EXACT SAME arguments that have exactly the same amount of actual facts.

I strongly suggest you do your own homework on the Electoral College outside of what appears atop Google's skewed search results. You might start with a guy named Arnn, but there are many.

You can claim the EC came from America's "already flawed racist founding" all you want. But the reality is, the south decided to secede mainly because they realized they could never outweigh the non-slavery states specifically due to the Electoral Collage. It's essentially the EC that brought ending slavery to a head. It also put Abraham Lincoln into office even though nobody received a true majority of the votes.

We are a nation of states. As such, a limited government is in each state's best interest. Each state being more able to make it's own laws under a limited Federal government helps ensure California can be California, Pennsylvania can be Pennsylvania, and Alabama can be Alabama. This is the vision of the founding fathers and it is the single best version of Democracy in human history.

1. Yes, by design.
2. Of course it does. That's why it takes many weeks to get final, valid vote totals.

Again, Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. A President must represent all states regardless of their population size.

Again, both candidates knew the rules and campaigned accordingly. Hillary and Obama's campaigning failed everywhere it went.

Being pissed about the DNC and Bernie makes sense. The EC worked as designed. The DNC rigged the game.
 

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But.... Trump is the champion of the working class people who feel completely disenfranchised from the great economic rebound we've had over the course of the last 8 years!
They took the bait yet again and voted against their own economic self-interests. They somehow believe a narcissistic billionaire is going to have their best interests at heart.

Many of his recent cabinet picks have been very disturbing as well. He's reaching deep into the bottom of the clown car. This is going to be a shit show worse than W.
 

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And it begins....

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Flint, Michigan doesn't have clean drinking water [still, years later=], but we are paying for the Wall of Pillory. :thumbup:

RNC claims they deleted 22 million emails once, and they can do it again.


Some of these will make you want to rip out your own spinal cord:

* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the DOJ’s Violence Against Women programs.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Humanities.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Minority Business Development Agency.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Economic Development Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the International Trade Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Legal Services Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Environmental and Natural Resources Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Electricity Deliverability and Energy Reliability.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Fossil Energy.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered all regulatory powers of all federal agencies frozen.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered the National Parks Service to stop using social media after RTing factual, side by side photos of the crowds for the 2009 and 2017 inaugurations.
* On January 20th, 2017, roughly 230 protestors were arrested in DC and face unprecedented felony riot charges. Among them were legal observers, journalists, and medics.
* On January 20th, 2017, a member of the International Workers of the World was shot in the stomach at an anti-fascist protest in Seattle. He remains in critical condition.
* On January 21st, 2017, DT brought a group of 40 cheerleaders to a meeting with the CIA to cheer for him during a speech that consisted almost entirely of framing himself as the victim of dishonest press.
* On January 21st, 2017, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer held a press conference largely to attack the press for accurately reporting the size of attendance at the inaugural festivities, saying that the inauguration had the largest audience of any in history, “period.”
* On January 22nd, 2017, White House advisor Kellyann Conway defended Spicer’s lies as “alternative facts” on national television news.
* On January 22nd, 2017, DT appeared to blow a kiss to director James Comey during a meeting with the FBI, and then opened his arms in a gesture of strange, paternal affection, before hugging him with a pat on the back.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT reinstated the global gag order, which defunds international organizations that even mention abortion as a medical option.
* On January 23rd, 2017, Spicer said that the US will not tolerate China’s expansion onto islands in the South China Sea, essentially threatening war with China.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT repeated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing him the popular vote.
* On January 23rd, 2017, it was announced that the man who shot the anti-fascist protester in Seattle was released without charges, despite turning himself in.
* On January 24th, 2017, Spicer reiterated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing DT the popular vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, DT tweeted a picture from his personal Twitter account of a photo he says depicts the crowd at his inauguration and will hang in the White House press room. The photo is curiously dated January 21st, 2017, the day AFTER the inauguration and the day of the Women’s March, the largest inauguration related protest in history.
* On January 24th, 2017, the EPA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to freeze all grants and contracts.
* On January 24th, 2017, the USDA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to stop publishing any papers or research. All communication with the press would also have to be authorized and vetted by the White House.
* On January 24th, 2017, HR7, a bill that would prohibit federal funding not only to abortion service providers, but to any insurance coverage, including Medicaid, that provides abortion coverage, went to the floor of the House for a vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, Director of the Department of Health and Human Service nominee Tom Price characterized federal guidelines on transgender equality as “absurd.”
* On January 24th, 2017, DT ordered the resumption of construction on the Dakota Access Pipeline, while the North Dakota state congress considers a bill that would legalize hitting and killing protestors with cars if they are on roadways.
* On January 24th, 2017, it was discovered that police officers had used confiscated cell phones to search the emails and messages of the 230 demonstrators now facing felony riot charges for protesting on January 20th, including lawyers and journalists whose email accounts contain privileged information of clients an
 

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The Democrats lost.
 

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Flint, Michigan doesn't have clean drinking water [still, years later=], but we are paying for the Wall of Pillory. :thumbup:

You have it all wrong. Flint's water is clean, cleaner than ever. The cleanest water. It's an alternative fact.

RNC claims they deleted 22 million emails once, and they can do it again.

Some of these will make you want to rip out your own spinal cord:

* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the DOJ’s Violence Against Women programs.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Humanities.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Minority Business Development Agency.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Economic Development Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the International Trade Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Legal Services Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Environmental and Natural Resources Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Electricity Deliverability and Energy Reliability.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Fossil Energy.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered all regulatory powers of all federal agencies frozen.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered the National Parks Service to stop using social media after RTing factual, side by side photos of the crowds for the 2009 and 2017 inaugurations.
* On January 20th, 2017, roughly 230 protestors were arrested in DC and face unprecedented felony riot charges. Among them were legal observers, journalists, and medics.
* On January 20th, 2017, a member of the International Workers of the World was shot in the stomach at an anti-fascist protest in Seattle. He remains in critical condition.
* On January 21st, 2017, DT brought a group of 40 cheerleaders to a meeting with the CIA to cheer for him during a speech that consisted almost entirely of framing himself as the victim of dishonest press.
* On January 21st, 2017, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer held a press conference largely to attack the press for accurately reporting the size of attendance at the inaugural festivities, saying that the inauguration had the largest audience of any in history, “period.”
* On January 22nd, 2017, White House advisor Kellyann Conway defended Spicer’s lies as “alternative facts” on national television news.
* On January 22nd, 2017, DT appeared to blow a kiss to director James Comey during a meeting with the FBI, and then opened his arms in a gesture of strange, paternal affection, before hugging him with a pat on the back.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT reinstated the global gag order, which defunds international organizations that even mention abortion as a medical option.
* On January 23rd, 2017, Spicer said that the US will not tolerate China’s expansion onto islands in the South China Sea, essentially threatening war with China.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT repeated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing him the popular vote.
* On January 23rd, 2017, it was announced that the man who shot the anti-fascist protester in Seattle was released without charges, despite turning himself in.
* On January 24th, 2017, Spicer reiterated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing DT the popular vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, DT tweeted a picture from his personal Twitter account of a photo he says depicts the crowd at his inauguration and will hang in the White House press room. The photo is curiously dated January 21st, 2017, the day AFTER the inauguration and the day of the Women’s March, the largest inauguration related protest in history.
* On January 24th, 2017, the EPA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to freeze all grants and contracts.
* On January 24th, 2017, the USDA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to stop publishing any papers or research. All communication with the press would also have to be authorized and vetted by the White House.
* On January 24th, 2017, HR7, a bill that would prohibit federal funding not only to abortion service providers, but to any insurance coverage, including Medicaid, that provides abortion coverage, went to the floor of the House for a vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, Director of the Department of Health and Human Service nominee Tom Price characterized federal guidelines on transgender equality as “absurd.”
* On January 24th, 2017, DT ordered the resumption of construction on the Dakota Access Pipeline, while the North Dakota state congress considers a bill that would legalize hitting and killing protestors with cars if they are on roadways.
* On January 24th, 2017, it was discovered that police officers had used confiscated cell phones to search the emails and messages of the 230 demonstrators now facing felony riot charges for protesting on January 20th, including lawyers and journalists whose email accounts contain privileged information of clients an
Regression at full speed.
 

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That's some lazy intellectual work right there.
 

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Doesn't matter who's in office, we lose. :lol: Just lose faster with some than others.
 
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