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Need the pinout for my map sensor plug. Need to what wire grounds because im assuming the ecu switches ground when powered andddd im not ready for that yet.

Ik blue/red is the intake temp, just need ground so i can finish some wiring without making a shit looking ground to the body.

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@2way this is to you bud.




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Like beetelguese you gotta say it 3 times…

But be careful what you ask for.
Like beetelguese you gotta say it 3 times…

But be careful what you ask for.
Lol right, im fairly confident its the brown wire which i believe is pin 5.

Im finally getting back into finishing my POS and i want to re use some of the existing wiring

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What are you working on exactly? Looking to change to a different tuning option? I need to do something to tune the DDIM besides slightly larger injectors on the stock ECM and some tightly crossed fingers.

THA and E2 are IAT and a ground. +B is power from the Circuit Opening relay, the other two are the airflow sensor signal. I think EVG is a ground reference for the signal and VG is the actual signal. There's a hard cap on the voltage it can output and therefore the mass of air it can read and that the stock ECM can understand. I think that's 271 grams from the troubleshooting for P0100. 1.1-1.5 volts at idle is a normal reading so whatever airflow correlates with that can give you a basis for what's possible knowing 271 is max. I'm not sure but I suspect the output is a 0-5 volt signal. Since the sensor is calibrated to output a voltage range in a specific pipe size and the ECM only understands that voltage to mean a specific amount of air there's not a way to really 'hack' this by say putting the sensor in a bigger tube (slower air since it's off center so less read that flowing) or swapping a MAF with a different calibration since the ECM is told that 5 volts is 271 grams. I'm not entirely sure how piggybacks get around this limitation, that's something I need to learn more about. I'd like to go MAF-less at some point with a piggyback or a parallel wired ECU. Same boat as you, got an automatic and need to keep the stock ECM for trans.


Tldr, power from relay, NOT ground switched.

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Celica doesn't have a MAP, it has a MAF. Look at the Engine Control schematics in the Electrical stickies for the MAF wiring.

Piggybacks just remap the readings.

Sorry for delay. Been traveling a lot.

And yes, BRown is the gnd. It is NOT switched.
Celica doesn't have a MAP, it has a MAF. Look at the Engine Control schematics in the Electrical stickies for the MAF wiring.

Piggybacks just remap the readings.

Sorry for delay. Been traveling a lot.

And yes, BRown is the gnd. It is NOT switched.
Yeah i meant maf plug i just wired in a map sensor before i wrote that. I plan to use the temp wire an the ground for a IAT sensor i added.



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Piggybacks just remap the readings..
Hows that work tho, if the PCM has it defined as X volts = Y airflow so you get a box that takes MAP, TPS, and IAT and calculates an airflow which it puts out as a voltage to the ECM it would still referenced X=Y? I clearly have a lot of learning to do, I need to know the how of things work not just that they work.
Hows that work tho, if the PCM has it defined as X volts = Y airflow so you get a box that takes MAP, TPS, and IAT and calculates an airflow which it puts out as a voltage to the ECM it would still referenced X=Y? I clearly have a lot of learning to do, I need to know the how of things work not just that they work.
The piggyback will bypass the ecu for anything in regards to the running of the engine. Its hard to explain without showing the harness adapter.

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So the main engine running wires do not even end up making it to the ecu as you can see above

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Celica doesn't have a MAP, it has a MAF. Look at the Engine Control schematics in the Electrical stickies for the MAF wiring.

Piggybacks just remap the readings.

Sorry for delay. Been traveling a lot.

And yes, BRown is the gnd. It is NOT switched.
Hey @2way is one of these other wires a 5v supply??? I need a 5v supply so i can add a fuel pressure sensor so i dont have to use up an extra pin on my piggy back. Tryin to maximize switch ports an im runnin out of room.

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Red wire on the MAF is 5V, I believe.
The piggyback will bypass the ecu for anything in regards to the running of the engine. Its hard to explain without showing the harness adapter.
So the main engine running wires do not even end up making it to the ecu as you can see above

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I meant like the actual piggybacks in days of yore lol, but you're running a standalone with parallel wiring which is likely where I'll end up since I want VVT control. I get how that works, but like the old Greddy E-manage systems and the like. It's ok, those dinosaurs are long dead. Idle curiosity.
They provide an intercepted/modified signal to the OEM ECU.
I won't derail the thread

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