[lilcoop_69]

Well.... just got some 18s and I feel the need to lower the beast.... $hit looks like a 4x4.....lol... but I was wanting to know a good set of lowering springs for the celica...... my brother has goldlines on his civic which ride nice but I don't know about the celica... also, I thought of the C-ones... they are just expensive as hell.... let me know of some others out there..... I am looking for maybe an 1 inch to 2 inch drop or just make the car look stout, no airbag look or to high.... got to be nice ride quality

 

[Dry Ice]

eibach pro-kit, I think this would be close to the drop you are looking for
but I'm biast, b/c that is what I am riding on.
The shop I go to, races imports, and they use eibachs.
PS: You might want to get that vibration taken care of first.

 

[Blue Bomber]

Go for either Eibach Pro Kit (1.2"), TRD (1.3"), or Tein (1.5"). Anything past 1.5" isn't good for the struts, and will wear them out quickly.

 

[lilcoop_69]

i thought about the s-techs and the trds, but the trds dont give the look want or it seems like they don't.... i have to see..... i might go with the s-techs, but i'm still open for suggestions....

 

[lilcoop_69]

you got pics of your car on the teins bluebomber????

 

[Blue Bomber]

Tein S-Tech with 17x7 215/40/17:

 

[SatansLilCelica]

Said it before, and will say it again.... Eibach is the ONLY way to go!

(Not trying to start an arguement, this is an undisputed fact)

 

[Jimmy20805]

so if i got either Eibach Pro Kit, would i only need to buy springs? how long whould my struts last? its a 2000 GT and has about 65k miles on it.

 

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by Jimmy20805
so if i got either Eibach Pro Kit, would i only need to buy springs? how long whould my struts last? its a 2000 GT and has about 65k miles on it.

Yup, your struts will be fine for quite some time with the Pro Kit. But if you got Sportlines, your struts would be dead within the year. :thumbdown

 

[SatansLilCelica]

Originally posted by Blue Bomber
But if you got Sportlines, your struts would be dead within the year. :thumbdown

That may be true, but dont mislead someone... The fact is it is not the coil that kills your strut, it is you the consumer killing it! When you purchase an aftermarket coil with a drastic drop, be smart enough to replace the dampers too... The Sportlines are designed to give you the maxinum drop without creating a poor ride quality. The performance you can get out of these coils (compared to a full coil over kit) is remarkable (bang for the buck).

 

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by SatansLilCelica
That may be true, but dont mislead someone... The fact is it is not the coil that kills your strut, it is you the consumer killing it! When you purchase an aftermarket coil with a drastic drop, be smart enough to replace the dampers too... The Sportlines are designed to give you the maxinum drop without creating a poor ride quality. The performance you can get out of these coils (compared to a full coil over kit) is remarkable (bang for the buck).

There's only one kind of aftermarket strut that is actually compatible with drops like the Sportlines: custom Konis (all the others are for stock to 1.5" max). And as we all know, you could probably buy at least set of Tein Basics for the price you'd be paying for Sportlines/Konis.

 

[lilcoop_69]

who makes the sportlines and how much of a drop do they give???? also, would a set of tein springs with trd struts be a good combo????

 

[Blue Bomber]

Eibach makes the Sportlines, and they drop 1.8" F/ 2.4" R. Unless you get custom Konis, though, you'll be replacing your struts every year or so.

Tein S-Tech and TRD struts will work perfectly together, though if you're looking for even more performance at a better price, you can get KYB AGX struts. They have adjustable damping (stiffness), so you can adjust them to compliment your driving style, or the level of comfort you're looking for. If you just want preset stiffness, you still don't want to bother with the TRD struts. They're just rebadged KYB GR2 struts with a much higher price (even higher than the AGXs :ugh: ). Just get the GR2s instead.

 

[lilcoop_69]

thankx bluebomber.... now any good deals on the s techs and kyb agx's??????

 

[lilcoop_69]

also.. would you recommend the sportlines or eiback pro kit or are they the same???

 

[lilcoop_69]

i meant eibachs

 

[Mochiman]

aww man. i didn't know about the strut problems with sportlines...i hope i don't have to replace anything soon...it rides nicely tho =)

 

[lilcoop_69]

hey mochiman.... you have any probs with the springs at all????

 

[Blue Bomber]

Originally posted by lilcoop_69
thankx bluebomber.... now any good deals on the s techs and kyb agx's??????

eBay has great prices on the Tein S-Techs (usually as low as $110 vs $150+ in stores), and you can get the AGXs for $360 shipped from Titan Motorsports (order through their site [mention you're an NC.org member] or PM Bottle here).

Originally posted by lilcoop_69
also.. would you recommend the sportlines or eiback pro kit or are they the same???

Definitely the Pro Kit (both are made by Eibach), unless you're willing to shell out a little under $1K total for springs and struts).

Originally posted by Mochiman
aww man. i didn't know about the strut problems with sportlines...i hope i don't have to replace anything soon...it rides nicely tho =)

Yeah, depending on how bumpy the roads are by you, how often you drive the car, and how hard you take turns, you could wear the struts out in under a year to maybe two years. You'll notice the ride becoming uncomfortable (bouncy and stiff) when the struts start dying, and handling won't feel as good because of it.

 

[SatansLilCelica]

Originally posted by Blue Bomber

Yeah, depending on how bumpy the roads are by you, how often you drive the car, and how hard you take turns, you could wear the struts out in under a year to maybe two years. You'll notice the ride becoming uncomfortable (bouncy and stiff) when the struts start dying, and handling won't feel as good because of it.

I value your knowledge, as well do others... I just want to point out a fact to everyone in Celica Land. All the variables above can wear at any strut at any height over time. Also, (Blue) most of your posts have graphics, tests, or some sort of proof of your claims. Please post the "half upto two year lifespan on dampers due to Sportlines" for my records. I would like to see the testing and who performed this test.

On the other hand... Yes, lowering your can can produce wear on dampers, and the lower you go can promote more wear (any spring). The only problem is that just because of the lack of aftermarket interest in (shorter) dampers for the Celicas, dont shoot down Eibachs Sportlines each time someone enquires into them.

Remember, every other spring manufactures uses poor steel spools (bulk metal before spun into springs) to pruduce there products. They know it (and wont dispute it), that is how they make so much cash off consumers!

The easiest way to make up your mind.... Want a mild drop= ProKit..... Want the lowest "Performance suspension"= Sportlines!