Originally posted by DopeCelicaGT
Has anyone heard of Glassurit?
Glasurit is a sister company of BASF & R-M . It is used on pretty much every european car because of the VOC regulations in Europe .I have used both BASF & R-M line of paints .They are OK materials but their whole prep/paint system is a little confusing & azz backwards if you ask me. I have Not used the Glasurit system though ???
It is a waterbased paint and not a solvent based paint .Which is why European cars use it .The State of California also has VOC regulations against solvent based paint ,so it is used their alot as well .
Personally in school and training , I've always been told that a solvent based paint system is ALWAYS superior to a waterbased paint system . Ive had training in water based paints and I have some minimal use with them . They are a pain in the azz IMO, they spray exactlly like water and have barelly any consistancey to them . Plus it took about 4 coats for complete coverage .In the past couple years water based paints have supposeddelly become better ,and Glasurit is supposed to be the best of the bunch. PPG and Dupont make their own water based systems as well ,but I have no exsperience with them ???
Unless you live in california and have to use a waterbased paint I would not want that crap on my car . I actually know of people in cali going outside the border to get their car painted with solvent based paints .
Originally posted by Jesse IL
I suspect the prep job. In fact I can say almost for certain that it is inferior. Of course I understand that rock chips happen, but they seem to accumulate very fast with whatever's on there. They chip to a white surface underneath...not sure if that's the factory primer or just just crap built up in the chip. Like I said, bugs literally get embedded in the paint. I've clayed the front end and still they don't come out. Basically there are permnent dull spots in the front end and hood from bug splatters. The surface is smooth, but the finish is discolored. The owner of the shop who has painted the car literally told me, "We use lower quality paint, but the quality of the paint isn't the most important factor, its how you spray it." My roommate's car is painted from teh same place, but he paid for their "show" finish, which is HOK paint and extra attention to prep (supposedly). Even on a fiberglass front end, his paint seems much more durable and does not suffer from the insect problems that my car does.
Also, what is the difference between the 4500s and 7900s clears?
when you get it redone just make sure all the old paint that you are having problems with its completelly stripped and DA'ed off . You dont want none of that crap under the new materials . Then pay alittle more and get some good materials like I said . Alot of the paints durability is in the prep Job , but Good high quality materials are always a plus . Cheaper lesser quality base coats & clear coats have LESSER build,adhesion, durability,weather resistance , fading ,and shrinking propertys . It almost sounds like the clear coat was over reduced or something , A good quality clearcoat wont discolor with bug guts ? Not really sure what that guy means by "how you spray it " ? That has nothing to do with the quality of the paint . You can spray crap paint GOOD but its still crap paint ,if you spray it BAD its still Crap paint ????
As for clear coats,4500s & 7900s are both high production clears . They are essetially the same , they both have very high build (only two coats ) .They both Flow and lay-out Very nicelly .They both have all of Duponts biggest copyrighted technologys ,So you get maximum protection,durability, shine , etc ,etc,etc with them . The shop using them will have to decide witch is right for them , depending on their Booth set up (cross-flow,or down draft) ,and production effeciency etc . Both are VERY good clear's though .
If you really dont mind spending a bit more you can get DuPont