ok i decided to finally sell these ive had them for about a year and a half they both work perfectly. They were in my old car which was a jeep cheroke and they pounded hard as **** with just a rockford 800 amp. they are heavy tho that is the one downside to them they weigh around 27 pounds each because of the huge magnet, they are 4 ohm also. ill post pics if some one can tell me how. and then they are up for grabs what are my offers. BTW i payed 500 bucks for both of them a little over a year ago.