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GM and Holden considering Toyota 86 rival
Holden could add a Toyota 86 fighter to its armoury if General Motors North America boss Mark Reuss succeeds in his ambition to bring a budget-buy rear-wheel drive Chevrolet coupe to market.

While not confirmed for production, the idea was previewed by the 2012’s Code 130R concept car (pictured) and is on the wishlist of the former Holden boss.

The 86 – which is sold as the Scion FR-S in the US - and its almost identical twin, the Subaru BRZ, swept all before them in 2012, with demand exceeding supply and car of the year awards piling up in response to their affordable rear-drive oversteer antics.

“I love it,” said Reuss, an enthusiastic driver. “It’s on the list. It would be a great entry for us.

“I don’t know if they (Toyota) are making any money but it is a very attractive car.”


Reuss said a production 130R would use the engineering basics of the freshly-developed Alpha rear-wheel drive platform employed by luxury brand Cadillac but would be cheaper to build.

“We would do something with the knowledge of Alpha and the background, but we wouldn’t take Alpha and try and shrink it.”

If the 130R does make it into production then there’s no doubt Holden Managing Director Mike Devereux would be bearing Reuss’ door down to make sure it made it to Australia.

It has already been speculated the 130R could return the Torana name to Holden showrooms for the first time since 1980.


Bring on the baby Camaro.
 

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I don't know...they said back then that the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky would rival the Miata, neither came even close.


As for looks: Do not want.
 

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gm, 4 cyl, lightweight, exciting?...bwahahahaha, that's funny
 

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WAY too tall. And some mutant came out of a 1-series, Forte Koup, and a Camaro to make that ass end. The swept trunklid spoiler's trying to hide the fact, but it can't. That tall look's from the Camaro too. Bleh.
 

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It doesn't necessarily look bad, just boring. Which for a sports car is kinda worse
 

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If they made look more like a mini camaro or micro muscle car it could work for its brand. But that's just bland & very eh
 

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what the hell is that? it just looks weird all around.
 

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Update!

Reuss wants a volume rwd Chevy
Atop Mark Reuss' wish list for Chevrolet's lineup is a modestly priced, rear-wheel-drive sporty car to appeal to young drivers.

"A really nice, light, rear-drive car that's inexpensive -- we know that rings a bell," the GM North America president told Automotive News last week. "That'd be a huge win for us if we had that."

It's not on the drawing board now, Reuss says. But GM tipped its hand to the idea at the 2012 Detroit auto show, where it showed a rwd Chevy concept coupe, dubbed Code 130R.

"Really strong" feedback on the concept from young people reinforced Reuss' desire to add something fun at the low end of Chevy's lineup. At the time, GM executives envisioned pricing the 130R in the low- to mid-$20,000s.

In the last few months Chevrolet has unveiled three new or redesigned performance cars: the Corvette Stingray, SS sedan and Camaro Z/28 -- but all are high-priced, low-volume vehicles. A moderately priced sporty entry could give GM's mainstay brand a volume driver.

Such a vehicle would compete with the Subaru BRZ and the Scion FR-S, the sibling rwd sports cars co-developed by Toyota Motor Corp. and Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd., which owns Subaru. Priced in the mid-$20,000s, the rwd cars have won critical praise since they were launched last year.

If GM decided to pull the trigger, it "would not do that design" seen on the Code 130R because it's already dated, Reuss said. He also said GM likely wouldn't build it on the Alpha rwd platform on which the Cadillac ATS rides, preferring instead to underpin it with a platform that is "really scaleable and efficient."
 

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If GM decided to pull the trigger, it "would not do that design" seen on the Code 130R because it's already dated, Reuss said.
"Dated"? Try "fucking ugly!"
“I don’t know if they (Toyota) are making any money but it is a very attractive car.”
He pondered Toyota's profit, but dismisses it by complimenting the design of the 86, yet GM's concept is fucking ugly.

"Really strong" feedback on the concept from young people reinforced Reuss' desire
Were blind-studies done with actual blind people? Can't wait to see this new "Aztek."
 
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