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GT Manual vs. Lexus IS300

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#1 ·
I had already written this story and as I had just finished it, the site went down! Argghhh!! I forgot to copy and paste too!

Anyway, here's what happened. I was on my way to the main highway near my house and there is a very long two-lane merge road to enter the highway. I was going about 65-70 as it is a beautiful drive and has long bends. I look in my rear view mirror and see a Lexus IS300 in silver and he is gaining fast. I wait for him a little longer and downshifted into 3rd. He knew it was on and dropped it too. I gained on him for about 1.2 seconds (seemed like nothing), and then he just slowly crept by me. At this point I'm in 4th and we're getting close to 105 mph. We're almost at the highway and he's got me by about 3 car lengths and he kept gaining. We stoped the race at about 115-118 mph and then slowed down once we entered the highway.

I had to get off the next exit and I pull up next to him and he had this hot blonde sitting next to him who did not seemt to be too happy about the whole experience. I gave him the thumbs up and a smile. He does the same. Fun race and a cool person to boot. It was almost perfect because there was no one on that merging road and almost seemed like a quarter mile strip. Totally safe and we stopped once we hit the highway.

Fun stuff. Wish I had that West Covina turbo. At least I raced another "Toyota" :)

Anyone else raced one of these before. I think they're sweet cars. I think he had the new manual transmission because it looked like he was shifting.

Keep the stories coming!

Laterz,

Fin
 
#2 ·
I never even thought about racing them at first...I thought they was some fastwhipyo, but as I soon found out, they cant hang with the GTS I guess its that teptronic transmition or that phat ass. They are still quick but a GTS 6 speed can takem out. (does lexus even make a manual trans?) ive never seen a manual is300 before, those would be a good race with a Man. GTS
 
#5 ·
Truthfully, Now that I think about it the 5 speed auto that lexus had in the car before was pretty good, wheel loss was pretty low for a RWD auto and the old auto was also a 5 speed. My guess is that the auto dropped 1/4 mile times by about .5 seconds, puting it right at or a tit under 15 flat, So ya, It would be a tight race between one of those and a manual GTS, GTS would win with ex/in though, that little bit would probably give it the small edge it would need. I know the 300 has 215 hp and a bunch more torque than we do, but it needs it to lug its big butt around, power/weight ratio should be pretty close
 
#8 ·
I wouldnt bet on the IS300 but thats just me. I know torque helps a **** load off the launch, but after that the torque is overriden by high end horses on both engine. So the IS300 would launch better and get maybe a car length off the start, but then the top end power on the GTS would come into play for the rest of the race allowing for lots of make up time. A celica W/ CAI/EX... which almost everyone on this site has, dyno's only a few less peak HP to the wheels than the IS300 (rwd hurts him there a lil), and the IS300 weighs more than 500lbs more, I would go GTS all the way even with the IS's car length lead after launch, but thats just my opinion based on facts.

is300
HP: 215
TQ:216
weight: 3200lbs ( Im pretty sure might wanna check)
auto 5 speed tranny
celica has better aerodynamics
 
#10 ·
My Co-Worker just bought an IS300 5 speed manual. Those things are sweet! But anyway, I told him that I wanted to race him as soon as he breaks his car in so, I'll let you guys know how close the race is.

Oh, btw I only have an Injen CAI.

Peace.
 
#11 ·
here we go again...

I have a japanese racing vid of 2 professional drivers. 1 in a celica gt-s 6speed and one in the altezza 6speed?? (it cant be slower than the US version. At least i wouldnt think so). The gt-s comes out on top in the 1/4 mile by about 2 car lengths.

i dont think 215hp and 218lb-ft of torque is quite enough to push a 3,255 lb car faster than the celica pulls. But thats just my opinion. I raced an auto is300 before and just killed him.
 
#12 ·
Re: here we go again...

Redline said:
I have a japanese racing vid of 2 professional drivers. 1 in a celica gt-s 6speed and one in the altezza 6speed?? (it cant be slower than the US version. At least i wouldnt think so). The gt-s comes out on top in the 1/4 mile by about 2 car lengths.

i dont think 215hp and 218lb-ft of torque is quite enough to push a 3,255 lb car faster than the celica pulls. But thats just my opinion. I raced an auto is300 before and just killed him.
they're a 2 litre 4 cytlinder in japan
 
#13 ·
WillyK said:
I believe I've read that the manual IS300 is about equal with the GTS 6 speed as you said. Of course the IS300 has more potential since it has the N/A Supra engine. I would assume you could do just about anything with it.

I wish I had an IS300 :(
actually you can only put arond 320 to 400 hp in a NA supra engine like the IS300 i should know my bro owned a NA supra *96 * before he bought his 97 twin turbo limited edition Supra
 
#15 ·
about the IS300 having better aerodynamics.... youre wrong. i thought it too, but it surprised me. Is300 have better coefficient of drag than NSX.... a measly .28 or .29 depending on the source. (NSX has .30, celica .31, IS: .29 or 2.8) they called it "one of the slippiest cars out there." not sh*tting you... i was like wtf too. not that it would make that much of a difference... but felt like dispensing accurate info. not to sound like a prick or anything.. just educatin' ;)
 
#16 ·
FriedRice said:
about the IS300 having better aerodynamics.... youre wrong. i thought it too, but it surprised me. Is300 have better coefficient of drag than NSX.... a measly .28 or .29 depending on the source. (NSX has .30, celica .31, IS: .29 or 2.8) they called it "one of the slippiest cars out there." not sh*tting you... i was like wtf too. not that it would make that much of a difference... but felt like dispensing accurate info. not to sound like a prick or anything.. just educatin' ;)
That's great, but it's area cutting through the air is bigger than the Celica's, so, since the Celica's frontal area is smaller, there is less drag. Now, I am just assuming the Celica's area is smaller, but look at the cars, I think that is a safe assumption. BTW, frontal area times drag coeff (plus other crap) determines over all drag.