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k i know whp means wheel horsepower, what does bhp mean???
 
celi's would be fast if they had some torque and rwd!! 180+ whp but 135 wtq? that is what hurts the gts so bad. my gt is just slow. why didn't they add a little bigger displacement? maybe a f/i option stock? toyota needs a real sports car. Look at the 3sgte and 2jzgte. those got power! although reliability may not be as good(?).
 
Ohhh so it's BS then? I post dyno's proving my clains and still BS.

No wonder this page doesn't go anywhere and it's full of hate and ****. I just share my info. If you can't believe it then let it be. I have plenty of witnesses to proove my #'s are not full of crap. I even have a video. **** it really, you try to help people out here and you get shot down.

Here are my supposedly bull**** dyno's:

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given CURRENTLY available power modifications, i'd say somewhere around 200 whp or a little over is what we're looking at for a n/a 2zz.

obviously cams aren't included in that, since they aren't currently available.
 
I got 195rwhp in my Spyder with a 2zz MWR swaped in. With custom header, moded Injen,and PFC. If you search here you can find dyno and pics of header MWR posted.

David
 
vcel523 said:
200 whp N/A? If someone can get 194 out of CAI, headers and PFC, then if you add rods, pistons, valves, springs, flywheel and such, you should more than 200 whp. Does this seem plausible?
yeah, but not cost effective, that's the problem with going n/a on the Celica.
 
vcel523 said:
200 whp N/A? If someone can get 194 out of CAI, headers and PFC, then if you add rods, pistons, valves, springs, flywheel and such, you should more than 200 whp. Does this seem plausible?
Well, i really couldnt think that rods, pistons, and sleeves could give you more hp. In fact, i would be more inclined to believe that they weigh more being forged internals to make it stronger, and that would cause loss of power. Awhile back i asked about the built motor that MWR offered for the 2zz, and someone told me that yes its built to run strong, but as of power being there, stock without the boltons, it wouldnt be as powerful...but i could be wrong.


As for that dyno...man you must have got one HELL of an engine!
 
Gas-n-Grease said:
brake horsepower (bhp) its also known as the horsepower produced at the flywheel. whp (wheel horsepower) is what you really wanna know.
i knew it meant hp @ flywheel but i always thought it stood for base horse power. and didnt WAR have a built NA celica?
 
yeah but he never dynoed it. he just claimed it had too mch power, parted it out and I'm pretty sure sold it by now.

I'm going to eventually have mine done but I'm not going with your typical setup from mwr, mines being done from scratch with stuff nobody retails yet ;) just takes time and $$.
 
Redliner9k said:
Ohhh so it's BS then? I post dyno's proving my clains and still BS.

No wonder this page doesn't go anywhere and it's full of hate and ****. I just share my info. If you can't believe it then let it be. I have plenty of witnesses to proove my #'s are not full of crap. I even have a video. **** it really, you try to help people out here and you get shot down.

Here are my supposedly bull**** dyno's:
there was a guy who posted a 175 whp 151 wtq from a celica GT with I/H/E.

clearly that isnt how much the engine is putting out. dynos arent 100% consistent or correct. with that kinda power you should be able to run a mid 14 second 1/4 mile even in your matrix. so you ever run at the track to see if you really have power or if its jsut an exagerated dyno??? also did you ever dyno at another shop to verify the #'s??

cause either that or you have the greatest 2zz ever made.
 
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