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I'm sure all the members on this forum can agree that Andrew, username Lowcarbonblue, is a respected member of this community. He has successfully bought and sold numerous car parts without any trouble with all of his buyers satisfied with both the business transaction and the parts they bought from him. I, too, was a satisfied buyer when I bought a Sirius radio from him in November of 2005, and this is where our friendship began. After trying to solve this particular issue peacefully, I am disappointed in his actions that eventually leads me to writing a bad feedback for a awesome buyer/seller and friend that I once saw him as. Well, here goes.

Around this same time last year, Caleb (Speed4TheNeed) and I were able to obtain the rights to all the parts of a '04 GT which we sold the parts to. We both agreed that we would keep the parts we wanted and sell the leftovers for profit. Even before the official for sale thread was made for the parts leftover on the '04 GT, I told Andrew about this matter and he asked if he could get the glass moonroof since he had a '02 that came with the plexiglass. In exchange for such a huge favor since it's hard to obtain a glass moonroof, he would sell me a Buddy Club 2 kit for cheap. Soon after, Andrew decided he also wanted the headlights off the '04 GT because they were in good condition and he wanted a spare set so so he can put on Bluebatmobile's vinyl for shows and keep his painted headlights for daily use. In exchange for the headlights, he would give me an additional $175 off the total price of the kit I wanted, making $225 total. After telling Caleb about the deal I had with Andrew, Caleb okayed it and he shipped Andrew both the headlights and glass moonroof.

Long story short, Andrew was unable to obtain the Buddy Club 2 kit he promised me, so I couldn't buy it from him. Knowing that he still owed me $225, he asked me if I wanted a set of speakers for the Celica. I told him I would take it in exchange for the $225. Instead of receiving the speakers in exchange for the $225 he owes me, he sold the speakers to a local 350z owner. After asking him why he sold them after telling him I wanted them, he said he didn't know I wanted them so he sold them.

Feeling bad about the speakers issue, he asked me if I wanted dibs on a triple gauge pod he was about to sell. He said if I wanted them, he would just subtract it from the $225 he owed me. I told him I wanted the gaugepod, but he later sold it to a local Celica member. After asking him why he sold them after telling him I wanted them, he said he didn't know I wanted them for sure so he sold it.

Not long after, I saw that he was selling the carbon fiber cargo cover he received free from Topshop since he was selected to be sponsored by them. After telling him I would take the carbon fiber cargo cover and even ship my oem cargo cover to him, I was shocked to see a thread in the for sale section he created with a link to an ebay auction where he was selling the carbon fiber cargo cover. After confronting him, he once again told me he did not know I wanted that part, so he was selling it.

After this ordeal, a long time passed with Andrew having family issues, his NSX being stolen, and him moving to North Carolina. After finding out his family had financial problems, I was kind enough to reduce the total amount he owed me to only $100 since he told me he wanted to give his family some money to help them with the financial problems. After he moved to North Carolina, I was unble to speak with him since he had no internet access. About four months ago, after seeing him randomly post every now and then, I PMed him asking for the money he owed me since it seems he has no more parts he can sell me. I even attempted to contact him on AIM but he would never respond to any of my IMs. I would continue to see him post randomly here and there, so I would PM him hoping he would reply back. I would also IM him every now and then when I see him sign on AIM and even leave him messages. After getting tired of trying to contact him hoping he would reply, I gave up on ever getting payed for the parts I sent him.

About a week ago, I started to see Andrew actively post on the forums once again. After being frustrated of not being replied to once, I PMed him telling him I would make a bad review thread about him on Newcelica.org if I don't receive payment for the parts I sent him about a year ago. Finally, he IMed me back telling me he haven't had internet access and that he just got back in Las Vegas because his dad got in a big accident. Well, this was how our conversation went:

LowAssCelica (12:24:50 AM): hey
LowAssCelica (12:24:56 AM): wow, all of that stuff earlier
LowAssCelica (12:25:00 AM): suprised the crap out of me
LowAssCelica (12:25:01 AM): lol
II VieTBoiX II (12:25:09 AM): well, no offense, but u been shady lately
LowAssCelica (12:25:29 AM): how long have you been trying to get a hold of me?
II VieTBoiX II (12:25:35 AM): 4 months
II VieTBoiX II (12:25:40 AM): check your pms
II VieTBoiX II (12:25:50 AM): i IMed you numerous times you were on
LowAssCelica (12:26:01 AM): damn, my fault. I feel bad since i feel like tonight, which i anwered you i guess, its becaue you threatened me but is not cause of that
LowAssCelica (12:26:06 AM): just want to tell you that first of all
LowAssCelica (12:26:12 AM): i just been back for nearly a week now
LowAssCelica (12:26:19 AM): started posting two days ago i believe
LowAssCelica (12:26:27 AM): i havne't had a comp for so long
II VieTBoiX II (12:26:34 AM): true u've been posting alot since the last 2 days
LowAssCelica (12:26:47 AM): you can ask around if you dont' believe me
II VieTBoiX II (12:26:48 AM): but i sent you about 3 PMs over the last 4 months
LowAssCelica (12:26:51 AM): i just got here to vegas
LowAssCelica (12:26:54 AM): my dad got ina car accident
LowAssCelica (12:27:01 AM): you have?
LowAssCelica (12:27:03 AM): let me check
II VieTBoiX II (12:27:03 AM): and I've checked your logs and you're basically on every other day, but you don't post
LowAssCelica (12:27:18 AM): my computer is logged to this comp
LowAssCelica (12:27:22 AM): my dad's computer
II VieTBoiX II (12:27:25 AM): and you also post every now and then
LowAssCelica (12:28:01 AM): nope
LowAssCelica (12:28:03 AM): no pm's
LowAssCelica (12:28:08 AM): i feel bad bro
LowAssCelica (12:28:08 AM): you know me
LowAssCelica (12:28:11 AM): i don't know why you would think that
LowAssCelica (12:28:18 AM): plus, youknow my number, should of called me
II VieTBoiX II (12:28:26 AM): well sorry, but all the behavior just lead up to it
II VieTBoiX II (12:28:31 AM): nah, i lost it
II VieTBoiX II (12:28:49 AM): you never once tried IMing me online
II VieTBoiX II (12:29:03 AM): even when you immediately sign on
II VieTBoiX II (12:29:15 AM): and i'll even leave you messages on AIM but you never got back
LowAssCelica (12:29:27 AM): if you IM'ed me, its because on start up, this comp opens AIM program
II VieTBoiX II (12:29:34 AM): yeah i know
LowAssCelica (12:29:38 AM): you can as Anton, "redlinee46s3
LowAssCelica (12:29:41 AM): he said the same thing about me
LowAssCelica (12:29:50 AM): because he started hating me because he thought i was ignoring him
II VieTBoiX II (12:30:01 AM): but most of the time you have your away message as "Anton, don't go anywhere, I need to talk to you' or something like that
LowAssCelica (12:30:22 AM): that's in these past days
II VieTBoiX II (12:30:25 AM): nah
LowAssCelica (12:30:28 AM): i'm sometimes on my computer's friends
LowAssCelica (12:30:32 AM): if that's what you are refering to
LowAssCelica (12:30:41 AM): why would i ignore you?
II VieTBoiX II (12:30:47 AM): to get out of paying lol
LowAssCelica (12:30:59 AM): that's not a problem to me
LowAssCelica (12:31:11 AM): you already know i don't scam
II VieTBoiX II (12:31:15 AM): i figure you have nothing left to sale so ithought i would just accept cash
LowAssCelica (12:31:44 AM): yeah thats cool
LowAssCelica (12:31:47 AM): lol
LowAssCelica (12:31:48 AM): wow
LowAssCelica (12:31:53 AM): you were probably mad
II VieTBoiX II (12:31:55 AM): in the end i didn't even get teh kit
LowAssCelica (12:31:59 AM): yeah
II VieTBoiX II (12:32:12 AM): only when you ignore me
LowAssCelica (12:32:14 AM): but i never think of it, so i hope you don't think i can make you forget it
II VieTBoiX II (12:32:30 AM): i basically only try to get ahold of you everytime i see you on or post randomly on newcelica
II VieTBoiX II (12:32:48 AM): actually, it's linzie that brings it up
II VieTBoiX II (12:32:54 AM): you know how girls are when it comes to money
LowAssCelica (12:32:55 AM): oh ok
LowAssCelica (12:33:02 AM): yeah
LowAssCelica (12:33:04 AM): damn
LowAssCelica (12:33:05 AM): i feel bad
LowAssCelica (12:33:15 AM): i just hope youknow me as a person that i wouldn't do that
II VieTBoiX II (12:33:33 AM): even linzie tried IMing you a few itmes
LowAssCelica (12:33:50 AM): good thing i got the message
LowAssCelica (12:33:50 AM): it would of been bad stuff going on
LowAssCelica (12:33:50 AM): lol
II VieTBoiX II (12:34:11 AM): well, nothing else could be done about it
II VieTBoiX II (12:34:29 AM): it's not like i rushed into this, i tried PMing and IMing over a long period of time
LowAssCelica (12:34:45 AM): yeah
LowAssCelica (12:34:46 AM): damn
LowAssCelica (12:34:50 AM): i sure feel bad
LowAssCelica (12:34:56 AM): i moved back to nc for these 4 months
II VieTBoiX II (12:34:58 AM): but not once have you responded even though your on AIM alot
LowAssCelica (12:34:59 AM): not sure if you knew
II VieTBoiX II (12:35:12 AM): how could i? haven't talked to you
LowAssCelica (12:35:21 AM): i posted it on nc.org
LowAssCelica (12:35:40 AM): i then haven't really posted until these past couple of days
LowAssCelica (12:35:46 AM): i'm loving the internet life over here again
II VieTBoiX II (12:35:54 AM): but you would post randomly
LowAssCelica (12:36:16 AM): my buddy who has the silver celica "lowliquidsilver"
LowAssCelica (12:36:17 AM): i'm at his house
LowAssCelica (12:36:19 AM): using his comp
II VieTBoiX II (12:36:21 AM): u even posted in off topic about scarlett johanson being the hottest girl alive
LowAssCelica (12:36:23 AM): posting with him
LowAssCelica (12:36:26 AM): yeah
LowAssCelica (12:36:32 AM): that's when i was over here in vegas bro
LowAssCelica (12:37:06 AM): here, let me get you my plane ticket info
LowAssCelica (12:37:19 AM): you seem like you dont' believe me
II VieTBoiX II (12:38:06 AM): sorry bro, but you never tried once contacting me back
II VieTBoiX II (12:38:15 AM): and it's hard to believe you never got any of my PMs
LowAssCelica (12:38:37 AM): i didn't get any of your Pm's, when i was on AIM, i never once got your messages
II VieTBoiX II (12:38:59 AM): no offense, but stuff like that is hard to believe
II VieTBoiX II (12:39:10 AM): sure, maybe one pm or a few IMs
LowAssCelica (12:39:10 AM): which is why i'm trying my best to explain
II VieTBoiX II (12:39:11 AM): but not all
LowAssCelica (12:39:28 AM): you can ask larryd to check my PMs and all PMs i have received, i do not have one
LowAssCelica (12:39:37 AM): and i haven't deleted any for a loonnng time
II VieTBoiX II (12:40:57 AM): u posted on 8/15, 8/14, 8/2, 8/1, 7/28, 7/26, 7/23, 7/22, etc.
II VieTBoiX II (12:41:09 AM): it's not like you stopped posting and recently started again
II VieTBoiX II (12:41:19 AM): but you also posted randomly
LowAssCelica (12:41:33 AM): like i said, when i was at Lowliquidsilvers house, i posted
II VieTBoiX II (12:41:35 AM): i rather not ask larryd because he would prolly just tell me it's between the 2 of us
II VieTBoiX II (12:42:34 AM): i don't know how you can explain not getting any of my 3 PMs or dozens of AIM messages
LowAssCelica wants to directly connect (12:43:01 AM).
LowAssCelica is now directly connected (12:43:02 AM).
LowAssCelica (12:43:06 AM): ******************** RECEIPT AND ITINERARY *********************

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Total Payments: $114.30


LowAssCelica (12:43:13 AM): and no, none of that info has changed
LowAssCelica (12:43:15 AM): that's in my email
LowAssCelica (12:43:26 AM): i can let you have a password to my email to confirm that is legit if you really want to
LowAssCelica (12:43:38 AM): ok...let me explain again
LowAssCelica (12:43:42 AM): honestly, this is getting annoying
LowAssCelica (12:43:46 AM): because i have no reason to lie
LowAssCelica (12:43:57 AM): if i wanted ot take your 100 dollars, then i would not post at all any more and that's that
LowAssCelica (12:44:02 AM): here i am explaining to you
II VieTBoiX II (12:44:34 AM): maybe you just didn't want to ruin your good name
II VieTBoiX II (12:45:00 AM): like you also agreed, it seems odd you would IM me the day I threatened to make it public
LowAssCelica (12:45:55 AM): i'm lived in vegas, when i left, i left my comp to my dad. When he signs on, AIM signs on. You and many other people IM me and i do not get them including anton which i know you know from nc.org. When i'm at lowliquidsilvers house, i use it yes, barely. If you Imed me when i was at his house, then i would of gotten which i didn't. I did not get any PMs from you. you should of asked for a receipt so you knew when i opened your PM that i actually read it since i didn't...other than that, what more you need
LowAssCelica (12:46:26 AM): II VieTBoiX II (10:44:53 PM): like you also agreed, it seems odd you would IM me the day I threatened to make it public
LowAssCelica (12:46:29 AM): to that comment
LowAssCelica (12:46:43 AM): lII VieTBoiX II (10:25:28 PM): 4 months
II VieTBoiX II (10:25:32 PM): check your pms
II VieTBoiX II (10:25:42 PM): i IMed you numerous times you were on
LowAssCelica (10:25:53 PM): damn, my fault. I feel bad since i feel like tonight, which i anwered you i guess, its becaue you threatened me but is not cause of that
LowAssCelica (10:25:58 PM): just want to tell you that first of all
LowAssCelica (12:46:49 AM): that's what i said in teh beginning
LowAssCelica (12:47:07 AM): but what do i know, you could of threaten me more than that
LowAssCelica (12:47:13 AM): sinc ei did not see any of your messages
LowAssCelica (12:47:16 AM): that's what i'm saying
II VieTBoiX II (12:47:23 AM): nah, this is my first and only time
II VieTBoiX II (12:47:45 AM): if i did threatened earlier, you would of seen a thread about you in the review section by now
II VieTBoiX II (12:48:38 AM): and prolly numerous post by other members agreeing this was shady
LowAssCelica (12:49:16 AM): i hope you don't think i'm hiding from 100 dollars
LowAssCelica (12:49:25 AM): but you can have it your way then
LowAssCelica (12:49:30 AM): i tried telling you the trust
LowAssCelica (12:49:32 AM): truth
LowAssCelica (12:49:35 AM): and this is the way you act
LowAssCelica (12:49:54 AM): i have been helping you since the beginning with other people about being shady but here you call me shady
II VieTBoiX II (12:50:01 AM): i never flat out say you were lying, it just everything sounds odd
LowAssCelica (12:50:01 AM): nice job being a friend
II VieTBoiX II (12:51:05 AM): well i guess the same can be said about you
LowAssCelica direct connection is closed (12:52:58 AM).
II VieTBoiX II (12:54:09 AM): i sent you a moonroof and a set of headlights, only asking that you take off the price of a kit you said you would sell me. in the end, you didn't even sell me it. when i was interested in other parts such as your crystal speakers, cf trunk lid, gauge pod, etc. you would still go off and sell it
LowAssCelica (12:54:48 AM): i didn't go and sell it, you never told me you were serious about it. The only thing was the crystal speakers
II VieTBoiX II (12:54:54 AM): as a friend who owed another friend money, wouldn't it make sense to give me first dibs on the parts you were going to sale
LowAssCelica (12:54:55 AM): you didn't want the bc2 anymore at the time
II VieTBoiX II (12:55:03 AM): cuz u couldnt get it anymore
LowAssCelica (12:55:15 AM): i did give you first dibs, you never made up your mind about anything besides the crystal
LowAssCelica (12:55:19 AM): i gave you dibs on my hids
LowAssCelica (12:55:22 AM): which one blew out
LowAssCelica (12:55:25 AM): but you didn't want it anymore
II VieTBoiX II (12:55:28 AM): cuz it blew out
LowAssCelica (12:55:33 AM): of course
LowAssCelica (12:55:39 AM): it was never a fact taht i did not hold it for you
II VieTBoiX II (12:55:49 AM): i told u about the trunk lid, we even agreed to taking off the price cuz i was going to send you my oem
LowAssCelica (12:56:01 AM): trunk lid?
II VieTBoiX II (12:56:36 AM): my bad, topshop cf cargo cover
LowAssCelica (12:56:54 AM): but then you didn't want it because of price shipping it
LowAssCelica (12:56:58 AM): i still have it at home
LowAssCelica (12:57:01 AM): if you want to pay the shipping for it
II VieTBoiX II (12:57:38 AM): and how much would that be?
LowAssCelica (12:58:01 AM): the shipping is still 70 bucks
LowAssCelica (12:58:06 AM): i was selling the peice for 150
LowAssCelica (12:58:15 AM): then we did the 220-100 would be 120
LowAssCelica (12:58:30 AM): then you told me that was too much
LowAssCelica (12:58:34 AM): then you wanted the crystal speakers
II VieTBoiX II (12:58:40 AM): http://newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=210061&page=1&highlight=lowcarbonblue
II VieTBoiX II (12:59:00 AM): kinda hard to believe shipping is 70 when you shipped a whole kit for $48 and some change
LowAssCelica (12:59:13 AM): this is thin carbon fiber
LowAssCelica (12:59:21 AM): which i explain to everyone, which is why it was never sold
LowAssCelica (12:59:24 AM): no one is going ot pay shipping
LowAssCelica (12:59:29 AM): i would gladly send dhl for you
LowAssCelica (12:59:30 AM): if you want
LowAssCelica (12:59:36 AM): for 15 bucks
LowAssCelica (12:59:46 AM): but dont' blame me if it comes shattered
LowAssCelica (12:59:53 AM): since ed's kit did come broken
II VieTBoiX II (1:00:25 AM): a full kit shipped for 48 compared to 70 shipped for a cargo cover
LowAssCelica (1:00:27 AM): the 70 bucks is having UPS properly packaged through them and if anything went wrong sinc ethey packeged it, woudl be covered 100%
LowAssCelica (1:00:39 AM): like i said, i would gladly ship DHL to you
LowAssCelica (1:00:48 AM): and having me package it
II VieTBoiX II (1:01:06 AM): i don't have the celi anymore, gave it to my lil bro
LowAssCelica (1:01:17 AM): so it doesn't matter at the end does it
LowAssCelica (1:01:23 AM): why would i keep 70 bucks for shipping?
LowAssCelica (1:01:30 AM): do you think i get to keep shipping money?
LowAssCelica (1:01:43 AM): Ed asked me to ship it through DHL for him
II VieTBoiX II (1:01:49 AM): i see no reason y u can't package it yourself
LowAssCelica (1:02:12 AM): i can but i hope you know how topshop sends it
LowAssCelica (1:02:21 AM): ask tony himself, he loses a lot of money on shipping it
LowAssCelica (1:02:25 AM): it comes in huge box
LowAssCelica (1:02:52 AM): and he pays a big amount a month to ship things so he has unlimited shipping
LowAssCelica (1:03:01 AM): he pays one big fee to send out all his products
LowAssCelica (1:03:04 AM): just like any company
LowAssCelica (1:04:06 AM): any more questions
II VieTBoiX II (1:04:30 AM): y not just ship it to dhl and pay insurance?
LowAssCelica (1:04:49 AM): they don't cover it when it breaks
LowAssCelica (1:05:06 AM): they pay partial
LowAssCelica (1:05:14 AM): has an adjuster come to your house
LowAssCelica (1:05:39 AM): i had a motorcycle frame
LowAssCelica (1:05:54 AM): and you need the original reciept, or online bank statement
LowAssCelica (1:06:09 AM): i had a motorcycle frame come and shatter
LowAssCelica (1:06:22 AM): they didn't cover it
LowAssCelica (1:06:43 AM): since they said its fiberglass and was packaged by a person not working for DHL or a shipping store
II VieTBoiX II (1:08:21 AM): didn't u get the cargo cover for door inserts for only $20 from topshop?
II VieTBoiX II (1:08:29 AM): and that's was only to cover shipping
LowAssCelica (1:08:41 AM): that's because i was sponsored
LowAssCelica (1:09:15 AM): like i said
LowAssCelica (1:09:17 AM): by my cargo cover
LowAssCelica (1:09:19 AM): i'll send DHL
LowAssCelica (1:09:22 AM): buy
LowAssCelica (1:09:30 AM): if not then stop talking about the cargo cover
LowAssCelica (1:09:34 AM): you are jsut going off topic
II VieTBoiX II (1:09:45 AM): so basically you're going to make money off the cargo cover
LowAssCelica (1:09:55 AM): of course i am
LowAssCelica (1:10:06 AM): but i'm i going to give it away for free since i got it free?
LowAssCelica (1:10:06 AM): no
LowAssCelica (1:10:46 AM): honestly, i'm mad now, knowing myself and everything i said was correct, and seeing the way you are acting, i really don't want to talk
LowAssCelica (1:10:51 AM): did i say "no i'm not paying you"
LowAssCelica (1:10:53 AM): no
LowAssCelica (1:10:53 AM): i said sure
LowAssCelica (1:10:55 AM): i'll pay you
LowAssCelica (1:11:01 AM): but you are acting like an ass
II VieTBoiX II (1:11:08 AM): my idea was you should send me the cargo cover for free. since you owe me originally 225 and shipping is only 70, but you only paid 20 for the door inserts and cargo cover, ur still getting the better end fo the deal
LowAssCelica (1:11:11 AM): so hmm, i'm the shady person trying to take your money
LowAssCelica (1:11:56 AM): umm no
LowAssCelica (1:11:59 AM): not happening
LowAssCelica (1:12:15 AM): just because i got something for free i will not give it away for free
LowAssCelica (1:12:22 AM): especially when i know its going to break during shipping
II VieTBoiX II (1:12:23 AM): actually, u owe me money
II VieTBoiX II (1:12:29 AM): so ur not giving it away for free
LowAssCelica (1:12:42 AM): so let me give you your money
LowAssCelica (1:12:46 AM): thinking now, i can easisly let you make tha tpost, and not post anymore and nothing you can do bout it other than losing my rep
LowAssCelica (1:12:48 AM): which i don't have a celica
LowAssCelica (1:12:50 AM): and don't care about
II VieTBoiX II (1:12:51 AM): k, the whole 225
LowAssCelica (1:12:55 AM): but since i'm not a scammer
LowAssCelica (1:12:56 AM): i wont
II VieTBoiX II (1:13:35 AM): $50 for the glass sunroof, and $175 for the set of headlights
LowAssCelica (1:14:09 AM): it was 100
II VieTBoiX II (1:14:43 AM): like you said, we're not good friends
LowAssCelica (1:14:56 AM): and what does that have to do with anything
II VieTBoiX II (1:15:13 AM): you owe me $225 originally
LowAssCelica (1:15:20 AM): i don't recall
II VieTBoiX II (1:15:28 AM): $50 for the glass sunroof
II VieTBoiX II (1:15:35 AM): and $175 for the set of headlights
LowAssCelica (1:15:47 AM): so i don't understand how it can be 200
II VieTBoiX II (1:15:52 AM): which was suppose to be taken off the $500 for the bc2
LowAssCelica (1:15:54 AM): just email me wiht your paypal
LowAssCelica (1:15:58 AM): [email protected]
LowAssCelica (1:16:01 AM): my dad needs to get on

I sent him an e-mail, IMed him, and even PMed him my paypal address just incase he miracously didn't receive any of them, but he did not respond to me or send me the money. Well, I decided to PM him one last time hoping he would respond. This is a copy of our conversation through PM:

LowcarbonBLue said:
SquareEnix said:
LowcarbonBLue said:
SquareEnix said:
Hey, happen to see you were on the forum and posting. Once again, you're not replying to any of my PMs or e-mail, so it's safe to say you're not going to pay me. I just wanted to let you know after finishing this PM I will start creating a thread about you in the feedback section. You're more than welcome to post your side of the story once the thread is up. I'll be on Newcelica for awhile since there's alot to type on this matter, so feel free to PM me or IM me on AIM. All I'm looking for is a response from you and an approximate date when you can pay me instead of you constantly ignoring me. Hopefully by creating a thread, you will bring this matter to your attention. I'm kinda disappointed it has to come to this.

its has come down to this because of your rudeness. You can go ahead and start a thread on it if you like. I tried being nice but then you wanted to be an ass and thats your fault. but go ahead and make a thread if you like. I'm waiting for it. No need for me to reply in the thread to tell my side. You already know my side. And that's that.

How am I rude? You're the one simply ignoring my PMs, e-mail, and IMs. All I ask for is the money you owe me for the parts you have already received. Why not just pay me so we can put this ordeal behind us? You specifically stated money is not an issue to you and you even posted you have some extra money to spend on g-games and sparco seats. If you wish for this debt to go away, send me the glass moonroof and a set of good condition headlights. If you cannot send me these parts, pay me the money you owe me. It's as simple as that.
yes you were rude. How about to go back to your saved IMs and see how nice i was acting. like you stated above, i told you ok and that money was an issue and then you kept rambling on and on. i'm not going ot keep talking to someone that is rude to me and won't believe anything i say. You keep saying i ignored you, which i didn't and you are disrespecting me saying i did somethign that i didn't do. I'm not going to let you call me a liar and a bad person. LIke i said, since from the beginning, i have been helping you out when you got scammed from klutch, when you bought something, i sent you quick, everything and you coming back with being rude and stating all the things i didn't do just makes things worse. LIke i said, post my name and go ahead if you want. Post all of the things i have said, i don't really care. You already disrespected me and you can do it again if you need to.
I was only hoping to end this issue peacefully, but Andrew refuse to pay me for the parts I have already sent him a year ago. Andrew was always known as a good and fair seller, which is why it is dissappointing this issue have to end the way it did.
 

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I can't believe I actually read all of that.

That sucks. I noticed too that he (LowCarbonBlue) has been pretty active on the forum lately. Never dealt with him, but he seems like a pretty legit guy. I hope you guys work things out.
 

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^^^ Damm I read all of it too. I call relate to the buyer as much as I don't want to get involved. I hope you both work things out. Not trying to get involved but I have one circumstance where I let a former friend borrow some money and the amount was who really needed help his name is David C. Nguyen from Team Hybrid his check bounced and 1 did not take him to court in time lost $1,000. I hate him for what he did. He's as crooked as it gets. But I'll cut this short and let you know. From that experience I had you two need to work it out a.s.a.p.

When it comes to money and friendship never let your "friends" borrow a penny you can screw up the friendship. I went through calling him numerous times the day after the 1st month his check has bounce, went to his apartment in Tustin where he lived with 4-5 other people, brought him to my house and confronted him privately and it was not to harass him, I made him write a written statement signed for my protection and showed him his dirty check, and after feeling "bad" I would tell him I'll give you 3 months to make the full payment. At work we both work together so I told him to meet me up in the restroom. Harassed him there for cash out of his wallet I'll take anything you have even a penny. He opened up his wallet and to my surprise $100.00 bill. $hit I took that without his permission that really pissed me off. Then I told him who carries this amount of cash just to work??? Crooked ass bitch.

So I went to get papers to take him to small claims by this time he had changed his number, moved, and I couldn't find him. What sucks was I see him at car shows one time I told him if I don't get my money I will start taking car parts of your wide body MR2. From then on I couldn't track him and the nerve of the guy to ignore me.

I let it go it's my lesson learned and his a$$ so you two need to do something or nothing will happen.

Normally, the seller is liable for a sale until the sale is closed so if the buyer feels it's getting to late. Bring on the legal action without it you'll be just like me $hit out of luck and remember taking someone to court in CA you are only allowed a certain time before the case never goes. File a claim with all the transactions, response, or receipt which ever works for you. If you have a bigger amount you have to go to a higher court.

Go here:http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_generic.jsp?cid=10581&id=2175#1

It may be different for your state but this goes for the rest of bad sellers not just this thread. I just posted here because it can relate to me in some ways.

It's hard to believe who's who on the Internet nowadays. The truth can go far beyond what is told and is easily manipulated. If you guys are truly friends fix the problem between you two now and do your best not to get it out in the public once it's loose in public your rep or whatever is gone no matter how good of a person you both are. It only takes one small situation to ruin it all. Example I had a friend who is a power seller on eBay sold over 2000 items on eBay practically lives off eBay few people who randomly negative feedback him for no reason and he has to petition them off or not show him feedback. Ruins his life because he lives off feedback. It's the small things in life that hurt the most remember that.

All I can say is don't let money get in between a friendship. Good luck and hope it doesn't go to far.
 

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as much as i hate to say it..now a days you really cant trust anyone. this is why i never let friends "borrow" money because they figure we're gonna be friends for a long time so whether or not i get you the money now or 5 years from now it shouldnt matter because we're friends. i really hope you get this problem solved because it would really suck if you had to end a friendship over money. but then again i think its pretty sketchy how he knew you wanted all of those parts but yet he "didnt know you wanted them". i honestly think he needs to get his priorities straight.
 

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NSX being stolen, .
I dont believe he ever had one....He may have showed a pic or two but that doesnt mean a thing. I can go down the road a get a pic of a r33 and saleen s7 and call them my own. And he said he gave his car (celica) to his girlfriend... But yet I still seeing him buy parts and selling celica parts. The guy was shady from the beginning and you just proved my thoughts with your experience.
 

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I kept telling him numerous times that the bottom line was that he owed me money for parts he have already received and was satisfied with. For all I know, the headlights and glass moonroof are still on his car right now. He even posted saying that he has extra money layering around to buy new car parts. Instead of paying me back first, he's about to splurge it on Sparco Torino seats and 2-piece G-Games 77Wolf:
Lowcarbonblue inquiring about Sparco Torino seats
Lowcarbonblue inquiring about G-Games 77Wolf
Lowcarbonblue talking about buying 2-piece G-Games 77Wolf

Since he has the money now, I see no reason why he can't just pay me so we can end this.
 

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(1:12:46 AM): thinking now, i can easisly let you make tha tpost, and not post anymore and nothing you can do bout it other than losing my rep
I believe this sentence sums up your whole transaction perfectly.
 

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wow that sucks. I have personally lost over $500 from this site. When you owe someone money (whether you have personal problems or not) you need to give it up asap. It's a shame that we have people who are shady on this site, but I guess you live and learn. Good luck and I hope you get your money back.
 

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i've known andrew for awhile now since are parents are good friends. He's the reason why i bought a celica. He sold his car to his gf and was suppose to get a Z but got an old and used nsx for the same price. his parents called my parents and told us about it because he was moving back and we had a party for him. It got stolen (which i don't doubt in Las vegas) and basically he came back with nothing besides his money.

He doesn't have a computer over here because he lives in the country side of NC which doens't have cable and he doens't have a home phone for dsl. He uses his cell phone. He has been using his money for housing. He's my friend and all but i wouldn't lie about this. Can't the moderator of this site check IP numbers and see where he's posts were coming from? But if you want me to talk to him when he gets back here to NC, i can do that.
 

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i've known andrew for awhile now since are parents are good friends. He's the reason why i bought a celica. He sold his car to his gf and was suppose to get a Z but got an old and used nsx for the same price. his parents called my parents and told us about it because he was moving back and we had a party for him. It got stolen (which i don't doubt in Las vegas) and basically he came back with nothing besides his money.

He doesn't have a computer over here because he lives in the country side of NC which doens't have cable and he doens't have a home phone for dsl. He uses his cell phone. He has been using his money for housing. He's my friend and all but i wouldn't lie about this. Can't the moderator of this site check IP numbers and see where he's posts were coming from? But if you want me to talk to him when he gets back here to NC, i can do that.
I would really appreciate it if you do talk to him.

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I kept telling him numerous times that the bottom line was that he owed me money for parts he have already received and was satisfied with. For all I know, the headlights and glass moonroof are still on his car right now. He even posted saying that he has extra money layering around to buy new car parts. Instead of paying me back first, he's about to splurge it on Sparco Torino seats and 2-piece G-Games 77Wolf:
Lowcarbonblue inquiring about Sparco Torino seats
Lowcarbonblue inquiring about G-Games 77Wolf
Lowcarbonblue talking about buying 2-piece G-Games 77Wolf

Since he has the money now, I see no reason why he can't just pay me so we can end this.
 

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Wow, I can't beleive Andrew is doing this to you, Mong. Honestly I would have never guessed it. I also had no idea you were still dealing with him over that, that was a pretty long time ago and I THOUGHT that it was dealt with (even though I knew you didn't get the buddy club 2 kit, I had assumed you guys worked something else out).

But anyway, I can confirm for a fact that I sent him out both the headlights (that were in great condition) and the glass moon roof from the '04 GT Mong and I bought for parts. I prob even have positive feedback from this from Andrew. I got his semi-scratched moonroof back within a few days so as far as that's concerned it's all good.
 

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I know, I was pretty stunned myself with the way he's been acting. I just can't believe it ended up like this, especially after having so much trust in him all this time.

On a side note, he did not even tell me or offer me the Buddy Club 2 kit he was selling off his car. By the time I knew about this and confronted him, he had already sold it to 140gt and like usual, he said something along the lines of how he was not aware I still wanted it, so of course, he sold it.
 

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" freinds " are typically the first ones to **** you over, unfortunatley. and i an suprised topshop didnt care that he sold a cargo cover that they gave him for free out of sponsorship
 

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LowLiquidSilver said:
i've known andrew for awhile now since are parents are good friends. He's the reason why i bought a celica. He sold his car to his gf and was suppose to get a Z but got an old and used nsx for the same price. his parents called my parents and told us about it because he was moving back and we had a party for him. It got stolen (which i don't doubt in Las vegas) and basically he came back with nothing besides his money.

He doesn't have a computer over here because he lives in the country side of NC which doens't have cable and he doens't have a home phone for dsl. He uses his cell phone. He has been using his money for housing. He's my friend and all but i wouldn't lie about this. Can't the moderator of this site check IP numbers and see where he's posts were coming from? But if you want me to talk to him when he gets back here to NC, i can do that.
he doesnt have a computer? i see this on his profile

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i checked his IP and i found it odd, yours and his IP addresses match...
 
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