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My celica gt-s auto is ****ing slow and i know it. I raced colby in his stang and he ****ing owned me. Sure i had an extra 180lb passanger but still, i raced him again and only 2nd gear in lift could i almost hang with his mustang gt. Then also jeron and his tahoe, he was pulling on me for a bit, my celica is sooo slow. The camry however... Now thats a fast car.
 

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Those things are too heavy and leak oil off the lot

Why are u even comparing an import with a domestic anyway. Yeah that stang owned u but think about how much gas and how big the freaked engine is and in a few years its going to be needing a new tranny or it will prob be in a junk yard.
Its prob already leaking oil
 

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The 6spd better be a lot faster (not likely), cuz I'm seriously doubting getting a celica after tonight.... I love the looks, but the thing is ridiculously slow.... That's not cool.


~Jeron
The Auto GT-S is like a high 17-low 18 second car while the 6 speed is a high 14-low 15 second car.

So the 6speed is a hell of a lot faster and I have kept up with multiple 2000+ mustang gt's on the freeway. The only thing keeping the celica from running low 14s stock is the FWD and the first 6000 rpms until you hit its powerband.

The Auto GTS is a huge joke and its too bad that so many people are uninformed about the differences between it and the 6 speed.
 

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MrSpiffy said:
That's good to know, but 14's aren't really all that impressive either.... I still like celi's tho.


~Jeron
Compared to what? It isn't a "drag" car. It's a FWD, 1.8l N/A 4banger. Weighs 2500lbs. The car handles like a dream for a car that costs about 22k.

You can say that the 15+ second mr2 spyder and mazda miata aren't impressive by 1/4 mile numbers too, but i'd take either one of those over a mustang in a heartbeat. There's more to driving than 1/4 mile numbers.
 

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Compared to what? It isn't a "drag" car. It's a FWD, 1.8l N/A 4banger. Weighs 2500lbs. The car handles like a dream for a car that costs about 22k.

You can say that the 15+ second mr2 spyder and mazda miata aren't impressive by 1/4 mile numbers too, but i'd take either one of those over a mustang in a heartbeat. There's more to driving than 1/4 mile numbers.


Compared to everything (need I remind you it lost to a TAHOE). Look around. The 350z, Evo 8, WRX (especially STI), Mustangs and almost all domestic "sports cars" (ignore if you must), STR4, S2K, used supra, used 350zx, etc. All are faster than a Celica and fairly similarly priced (considering that the sticker price for the average GT-S is about 25K).


Don't worry people. I'm not bashing celicas in any way. I love the look, they do handle awesomely, and drag isn't as important as handling/curves (for me at least, I like curves). I would probably never buy a mustang myself either (not that I don't have respect for them) because the styling just isn't me. I've read almost everything I can find about celicas over the past 2+ years. But I've driven one, and it needs some "umph" desperately. Just driving, it feels a little gutless. That is definately fixable w/ a turbo (NOS is good too, but full-time power is better), but then is the expense really worth it to make the car marginally fast? I dunno... I've never ridden in a boosted celi... So at least recognize that I'm not flaming the car. I've been on here long enough and you guys should know I love the thing. :D I just might be reconsidering buying one because there are faster things out there with equivalent handling for a similar price. Just trying to get more for my money. Maybe a Supra or a WRX unless I can find a 6spd for really cheap and boost it right away.

BTW: Don't underestimate Colby's Bullitt either, it handles amazingly (best handling stang ever built). It's all about the suspension, not just weight. Weight is a whole lot less important when you have enough power to move it.

Bottom line, It looks fast.... and isn't really w/o modification. Beautiful car, but needs some balls.

~Jeron
 

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is that u on ur sig? if so, wat kind of time did u end up getting?
I ran at LACR for the first time just to see how drag strips were. Lets just say LACR does not encourage you. :D I ran a 15.6 with a cai and on bald tires. at 3000ft elevation it calculates to a 15.1-15.2, but I talked to honda guys who run there all the time and said my time is more equivalent to a 14.8 at a good track. I guess I will never find out. But i didn't feel too bad because there was an s2000 there that night who couldnt run better than a 15.4. :)
 

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The MSRP on a celica is around 22-23k fully loaded. Why dealers mark them up so high is beyond me.

The celica isn't a sports car by any means so I wouldn't compare it to a 350z/supra/etc. It is pretty comparable to a wrx though. I've raced a few stock wrx's from rolls and on the highway and I have always come out on top. The wrx's real advantage over the celica is the awd and on the launch. If the celica could get as good a 60ft time as a wrx, i bet the 1/4 mile times would be very close. And anything after that is celica all the way.

I'm not trying to argue that the celica is fast. I'm just pointing out that it isnt as slow as you think it is. When you drove the celica... was it a 6speed gt-s? Did you run it all the way to the redline? If you said no on either question, then you haven't felt how fast the celica can be. And don't let torque fool you into thinking a car is fast. Torque makes a car feel very fast, but doesn't always mean its going fast. The celica has no torque so your not going to feel what you feel in a mustang or in your tahoe for that matter.

When my car was in the shop, I drove an infiniti i35 around for a weekend and that car "felt" so much faster than my celica. But in actuality, it was just the torque foolin me.
 

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my dad has a 2001 chevy tahoe (the one with the biggest engine). the tahoe feels like its fast, but its not. my moms ford escort (rental) feels fast as well, but its not.

mr. spiffy, how can u compare a celica gt-s with a wrx sti, 350z...? thats like a celica wanting to race a civic lx being drivin by a 250 lbs woman.
 

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What do Celica GT-S run in slalom stock? As for my car, the Bullitt, a recent mag (being tested by MT) had the Bullitt running 66.0mph stock in the slalom. Give me some tire (stock ones suck balls), lower it a bit and I will be near 70mph in the slalom. Not at all bad for a car that weighs 3200 pounds. Plus I got the power to get going as well.

You guys that hate domestics should read this article... About the ford mustangs (including my Bullitt, a Mach1 and a Cobra).

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/featuredvehicles/138_0308_mach/index.html

By the way, I am not your normal import vs. domestic guy; I like them all and want an Sti or an Evo (really a Skyline... lol). I even think that Celicas look nice (Jeron's will look the best. lol). So don't start bashing me as a dobestic guy. We all love cars and drive what we can afford and like. I personally like the Mustang, it is reliable (so far), and has relatively good gas mileage (I get 18 around town and 25+ on the freeway, not to bad, but not a Celica. lol).

I hope that some of you will read the above artiicle, it is really informative...

~Colby

P.S. By the way Alex, nice run. True you weren't even close to me, but did pretty well all considering. I also had a large passenger with me though. lol. I got stomped by that other stang though, but he runs mid 12's so I don't feel all that bad. Good run!
 
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