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Ok maybe its just me but I um wash my car once a week, it has set up outside for about 6 months, well not set up but stays outside, ok I havelets see here polished and waxed it o I dunno at least 1 time a month since I have had it if not more on a few occassions. I am a detailer and I have been doing this crap for like 7 years but something is up with this car, no matter what I do the swirls keep coming, getting worse and worse, I do everything known to man to avoid them, like I said I polish wax this car a lot, I use all the correct steps, I use 3m and Meguiar's products and I fully detail this car at least 1 time a month, well my problem is this car just doesn't give me the reflectiveness that I like, it is silver which obviously aren't as deep looking as say black but when I first got this car and for at least 3 months this thing was like glass, now it doesn't seem to have as much depth too it as it did, in other words it still looks nice but nothing like it did when it was new. The only thing that I havent done to this car is clay it however that will be happening in the next few weeks so what could be going on here???? Calling BME, Piece of WORK, anybody that can give some feedback, oh and did I mention that Toyota's paint suck As* hard??? Oh thats just understood LOL!

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Without being there to see it and going by what you have written, it sounds like you have some pretty severe build up of coatings. Shine is dictated by your top coat but depth and clarity are attained by surface prep and those inbetween steps.

It's a bit unlikely but you may be putting the "swirls" in the coating layers and not in the clear coat. That's all I can suggest if you are using proper techniques and applicators/removers as you have described in the past.

Get that thing down to the clear coat before starting up again. Clay and 3M General Purpose Adhesive Cleaner.

Describe the "swirls" to us.
1. Scratches that are random in direction and length. (scratches)
2. Scratches that are in an corkscrew/overlapping oval pattern that are in the same location even when viewed from several angles. (swirls)
3. Scratches that are in a ring pattern that seem to radiate out from a point of light reflection. No matter where you look the rings follow the point of light. (spider webbing)
 

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Actually they are really more of straight lines really small straight lines that go all around the car but especially noticeable on the hood and on the section of the doors that doesnt go straight down u know the area right next to the window molding!! The light scratches just go straight back in a pretty much uniform fashion, not swirls yet but if more and more keep coming they will looks just as bad!!! I dunno if it is in coatings or not cause the wax doesnt last long and in fact needs waxed again and I just did it like 2 weeks ago!! So I am guessing they are actually in the clear coat!! I also have blemishes all over randomly from bugs and crap, I dive on the interstate a lot and they are doing a lot of reconstruction around here so unfortunately it takes a beating at times, it could be that I am just really picky!! Its not that noticeable in the daytime except at an exact angle however under flourescent light at night well thats another story!! O by the way what is a good polish and wax besides 3m or Meguiars cause I use this stufff all the time and niether seem to last but 2 weeks or so and I dont have the time to polish and wax this car 2-3 times a month, however I do wash it once a week!! I took pics but the wirls will not show in the pics so.....unfortunately I really dont have anything for u to look at but any help is most appreciated!!!

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You call yourself a detailer and you haven't used a claybar on it yet:chuckles: ? If you want a more refletive shine and something that'll last, try a polymer sealant. Klasse, Zainos, Poorboy Ex, Platinum and Blackfire are good sealants. They will however not fix your swirling problems. To really get rid of the swirls you're going to need a Porter Cable orbital buffer. I would also buy new supplies like a new lamb skin wash mitt and for the ones you can put in the washer, make sure you use liquid detergent. Be sure to use a claybar.
 

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Man LOL just havent gotto it yet I guess I got the same bug as mechanics do LOL you know how all mechanics drive pieces of shiet when they should or you would expect them to take care of their cars LOL. Well I got the same bug except I just don't clay mine or havent yet anyway LOL!!

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dawn lol....uhh i thought it would hurt the paint using dish washing soap:)
 

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It does not hurt the paint but it will remove all the wax. That is the point in using Dawn. Clear off the old before putting on the new. My car has never been waxed, only Zaino and you can really tell it when it sits next to another liquid silver car.
 
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