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it wasn't really a full race but ill tell it.

i was going to get some food and i see this silver S2000 fly passed me going the other way.
i get into the turning lane and flip a bitch.
i see this guy driving his car at night all the time.
i get up to him and he has a lady with him.
he's probally around 40-50 years old.
the light was red when i pulled up.
i didn't think he was going to do anything but i guessed wrong.
light turns green and we take off normally driving slow.
we keep getting faster and i punch it around 20 and he does too.
i pull on him and we keep going.
i thought he was going to overtake me but it didn't happen.
i shift into second and land the cam.
i keep pulling on him very little.
i didn't gain much throughout this race.
it ended when i shifted to 3rd.
so probally around 65.
i was up a half a car at the end.
he didn't want to go anymore, i think.
i pulled on an S2000 and think i could of pulled some more in third.
i wish he kept going but o-well i got a 20-65mph race with one of these.
please dont say this didn't happen because i dont lie about this stuff.
also he had a passenger and i only weigh 120 pounds,hehe
all i have a 3rd gen injen cai.
you can definetly tell when he hit his lift in his car because the car jumps, it looks crazy.
i love those cars
 

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hmm.. do i answer this as a GTS owner or as an s2000 owner:
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YOU SKINNY ASS RAT BASTARD YOU BEAT AN S2000.... AWESOME.. NO ONE EVER BEATS ME WHEN I DRIVE THAT THING.. I WISH I ICOULD DO ONE OF THOSE LAY OVER RACES AND I'D RACE MYSELF WITH THE S2000 AND THE GTS...

CONGRATS
 

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Originally posted by GTS LAID:
hmm.. do i answer this as a GTS owner or as an s2000 owner:
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YOU SKINNY ASS RAT BASTARD YOU BEAT AN S2000.... AWESOME.. NO ONE EVER BEATS ME WHEN I DRIVE THAT THING.. I WISH I ICOULD DO ONE OF THOSE LAY OVER RACES AND I'D RACE MYSELF WITH THE S2000 AND THE GTS...

CONGRATS

yes im very tiny
5'6 120 pounds
hehe i think it helps


im weigh as much as a girl i know
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Good kill. I've got to tell you, though.. He must have filled his up with swamp water instead of gas. I've put thousands of miles on both the 2000-model S2000 and the 2000-model Celica GT-S. After driving both, I can safely say that there's no way a stock GT-S is going to beat a stock S2000.
How fat was his woman?
 

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Originally posted by Defiler:
Good kill. I've got to tell you, though.. He must have filled his up with swamp water instead of gas. I've put thousands of miles on both the 2000-model S2000 and the 2000-model Celica GT-S. After driving both, I can safely say that there's no way a stock GT-S is going to beat a stock S2000.
How fat was his woman?
Dude, figure out the weight difference.
how much does the average guy weigh?
maybe 150( or more) plus his girl 120(?) pounds right.
i weigh 120 pounds and i definetly had a weight advantage.
my car has a 3rd gen injen cai also so its not stock.
you might think that doesn't help much but it really does(check out the dyno section).
i think its very possible to beat these cars with that kind of weight advatage.
also i only put a half a car on him very slowly so its not like i killed him by tons of cars.
 

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i have both too.. theres NO WAY the stock GTS can take the prelude.. you can load it with 6 tons of asphalt (ok maybe not that much) but you'd need about 20% extra weight (maybe 600 lbs) to get it to actually make a diff.
 

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Originally posted by GTS LAID:
i have both too.. theres NO WAY the stock GTS can take the prelude.. you can load it with 6 tons of asphalt (ok maybe not that much) but you'd need about 20% extra weight (maybe 600 lbs) to get it to actually make a diff.
i thought we were talking about an S2000???
With stock prelude an stock gts the gts would win...
why do you think that extra weigh doesn't do anything?
when you have an extra passenger in your car do you notice the difference in performance?
im just saying what happened.
 

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I'm not saying this race didn't happen and the conclusion of it is false. Bit, like I've said before anything can happen in a street race, things are never equal.

As for your reasoning of weighing less. Well, the S2000 does not weight that much more. The S2000 I believe has more torque than you do all through out the power band. The S2000 has 3,000 RPMs of high lift cams to play with compared to your 2,000 RPMs. I believe what gave you the advantage was that you got the early jump and he wasn't prepared. Yes, the CAI does do pretty well for you guys, but it doesn't do well enough to beat every stock S2000 out there. Great run though



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he had the extra passenger and yes he has more torque.
but if your caring an extra 140 pounds than me it would end up like this.
i didn't get a jump on him.
we started out slow and kept getting faster and we were dead even when we floored it at about 20.


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awesome kill! someone mentioned being beat by a Eclipse GT..I got spanked by my buddies 2K Eclipse GT...we were on a high way at around 1:30-1:45am and he just kept pulling and pulling...heh.. Good kill, though..i love those short races! whats even better are the short races with cars you KNOW can beat you, but since you get the jump they get too frustrated to follow through and they let off early! those are the best!<IMG SRC="http://www.newcelica.org/ubb/smilies/cwm30.gif" border=0>

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Good race!

Welp...the only thing that I can think of is that the "old guy" didn't realize that you were racing...or he was just toying with you! I mean...

your talking about 60 more horses, it weighs 2800lbs, higher redline, more tq...

It doesn't matter if you get a car on him...if he knew how to drive...the race would be over...

I'm not saying that it didn't happen...I'm just trying to see wtf was wrong with the guy...cuz I raced a gsr the other day with i/e/h and I just ran away from him...So I dunno...
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whoops yeah i meant s2000.. i said prelude cause someone posted about a prelude killing something else in the race forum and it was stuck in my mind...
 

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Originally posted by luv2rev:
Good race!

Welp...the only thing that I can think of is that the "old guy" didn't realize that you were racing...or he was just toying with you! I mean...

your talking about 60 more horses, it weighs 2800lbs, higher redline, more tq...

It doesn't matter if you get a car on him...if he knew how to drive...the race would be over...

I'm not saying that it didn't happen...I'm just trying to see wtf was wrong with the guy...cuz I raced a gsr the other day with i/e/h and I just ran away from him...So I dunno...
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he realized i was racing for sure!!!
i hit my lift and my intake screams like crazy at that point.
for the last time is he or i didn't get a jump on each other.
it was a dead even race at 20 up.
he stopped at 65 and backed off and never got close to me again.
you could tell when he hit 6k or whatever it is because the car jumped forward.
i dont see why this is so impossible
its not like you mess up that much after 20 anyway.
its the launch people have trouble with.
 

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how can you say that it's not that hard to believe...

like I said...60hp difference...higher rpms...more tq...not that much weight difference (2800lbs for the stook)...

That's almost like saying that a GT beat a GT-S...then saying that it's not impossible...


Ya know...and if it "jumped foward" at 6000rpms...then why didn't it "jump past" you then?

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Older folks aren't exactly known for their shifting skills. When you drive an S2000, knowing how to shift fast and accurately is the key. This guy was uh...granny shifting for sure, and you made it a close race. Congrats for that.

Even with the weight difference, if he actually knew how to whip his S2000, your ass would have been grass.

I ran a GT-S with an extra passenger in my Si and the GT-S still beat me, although not by as much as if he didn't have another passenger, but the difference in weight didn't matter too much. Like someone said before, it would take more than a 600lbs difference to matter in that race.

End of the story.
 

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very good point...

the rpm's in the s2000 fall like nothing I have ever driven at all...I can power shift the hell outta it...and the rpms will still fall from 9000 to around the 7000 mark...and it's not just me with this problem...its other people...

when shifting regularly...it will drop to around 6500...now imagine a older man driving...

Did you notice how he "jumped foward" every time he hit 6000rpms? Well...that's your answer right there...he didn't stay in the powerband! He would shift...fall...lose ground...then hit the powerband...get up next to you...shift...and it would happen again...

Just like kleef said...imagine driving a GTS vs GT...if the person in the GTS didn't know how to stay in the powerband...it would be a close race...

I'm not saying that it didn't happen...cuz I believe you...but dont expect the same results when you come across someone that can shift...that's all...


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