Has to be one the same car, same day, same dyno, etc... to even begin to compare...LaoBoyJames said:(A celica with a TPR exhaust & Injen CAI) VS. (a celica with MWRacing pretuned PFC & Injen CAI)
AFter about an hour of reading old threads on the PFC and threads of the TPR exhaust I find the gains to be pretty dang close, what you guys think?
Most likely it would be about the same as a TPR CAI with TPR exhaust up high. The TPR CAI and Injen CAI are neck and neck in top end (a different story in low and mid), but it's unknown if the MAFS fins and better MAFS placement of the TPR CAI would have more of an effect up high when an exhaust is added (engine runs leaner than with a CAI alone). Give it a couple months when the 2nd and 3rd TPR exhaust GBs are finished, people have the exhausts installed, and a few hopefully dyno them. Then we'll get to see how other intakes respond to it, along with other mods like headers and the PFC.Originally posted by LaoBoyJames
Gotcha. Hey Blue Bomber what would be your guess though (just a guess) on the peak hp output with an Injen CAI+TPR exhaust? I mean obviously it hasn't been done but Ive seen that an avg celica with a TRD and Injen combo(GTS of course) produces 174hp I may be wrong, and since TPR obviously produces more than TRD that would make it around the range of MWR's injen+pfc combo of 177hp safely tuned, and again I wanna emphasize "guess" and "around". Flame away its okay...
i still don't understand how you can disregard the "AEM" data when it comes to A/F, but inconsistently use the HP#s.Originally posted by Blue Bomber
(incorrect AEM reading on chart ):
that will depend on tuning. the problem with using the PFC in a comparison is that it wont act the same with 2 different parts.Originally posted by SpeeedCelicaGTS
what happenws if you use a pfc?
Does this look like a normal dyno to you?Originally posted by bagodoosh
i still don't understand how you can disregard the "AEM" data when it comes to A/F, but inconsistently use the HP#s.
my opinion.. either don't mention the ebay intake in ANY comparison, HP or A/F. or if you want to use it, remain consistent: admitting that TPR made more HP down low and ebay also ran richer thruout (so it may be the safest CAI yet).
i hope you'll reply more than the usual captain bash accusation.