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Dyno results: Injen CAI vs. AEM CAI

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#1 ·
I've had these for a while but haven't posted them. I bought an Injen 3rd gen CAI to compare with my AEM CAI. My car also has a TRD exhaust. I dynoed the car stock a while back as well. The same dyno was used both times as well as the same tire inflation pressure. This is how I tested the car to make sure the Injen and AEM results would compare fairly. I installed the Injen on a Friday night along with the TRD exhaust. I reset the ECU and cleaned the MAF sensor. The Injen was run about 200 miles total before it was tested, a mix of street, highway, and two days at the track. The best run was the morning after installing the intake/exhaust 14.8@98.95mph. I noticed with the Injen a massive lack of low end power compared with the AEM. The car also was hard to drive smoothly away from lights comparitively and had a big bog at about 4600 rpm under part throttle. You can see in the first dyno run that the Injen/TRD combo is killing the stock setup up top but is losing tons of power down low. The Injen HP line is red and torque line is green, stock HP line is dark blue and torque line is light blue.

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On Wednesday night after dtnoing the Injen setup, I removed it and reinstalled the AEM, resetting the ECU again. The car was driven about 50 miles before it was run on Thursday at the dyno. The low end power and drivability off idle picked right back up and the part throttle bog disappeared. The first graph shows the AEM/TRD combo vs. stock (AEM HP=dark blue, torque=light blue stock HP=red, torque=green) As you can see, the low end power loss is significantly less than with the Injen.

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Now this last graph shows the AEM/TRD vs. Injen/TRD This is where I was surprised. The Injen olny beat out the AEM by one peak HP. And the Injen only passed the AEM after 7300 rpm. Not only that, but the AEM absolutely killed the Injen down low. (In this graph AEM HP=dark blue, torque=light blue Injen HP=red, torque=green)

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After having both intakes in my car, I can say that the AEM is a far better choice for street use. The fitment of the intake is far better, and there are no holes or stumbles in the powerband. That isn't to say that the Injen may not have some promise or does not have good aspects. It may be possible to tune the Injen with a S-AFC to make more top end power, because that seems to be where its powerband is biased. Also, the Injen puts the filter in a far better location than the AEM. The Injen has a sharp bend at the end which causes the filter to sit nearly vertical and up and out of the airstream coming into the front bumper. This is beneficial in two ways. First, the filter isn't constantly being bombarded with road debris. Second, I think that in real world use, the AEM may suffer a power loss at high speeds. Its filter is located right in the air stream entering the bumper. When you move air at speed past the end of a pipe, you have a pressure drop at the end of the pipe. At high speeds, there is alot of airflow through the front end, especially with ny TRD bumper that has a large gap between the plastics and the bumper. I am thinking of making a fiberglass ram air box to mount the AEM in that is fed by the opening in the front bumper.

So I hope this all was enlightening to everyone. More stuff can be found at my site http://www.ameritech.net/users/trdcelica/celica.htm
 
#29 ·
tripnotic said:
The most surprising about the INjen Cai, that someone on this site with only a Injen CAI can hit 14.3-14.4. I forgot who it was that was on this site but he has a timeslip and video for it.
and that must be the freak GTS or a really good driver.

we all know dark gt is the freak GT lol..... damn it why can't all our cars be freaks
 
#36 ·
1rst dont kid yourself about exhuast There is a very noticable difference with the TRD I can feel allot of power and it is definatly worth the money hand's down the #2 mod that should be done. The first is a CAI far the best bang for the buck.

Both AEM and Injen are good products and a dyno is hard to test and get decent results as noted above. As far as the @ss gauge ive heard from people [many] who have had both and 99% say they cannot tell the difference, as well I have not heard one post saying I lost track time because I went too AEM from Injen.

I give AEM the slight advantage for one reason CARB legal to smog saweeeet
 
#38 ·
the only thing that can really be said here guys is every car. every setup, is going to yeild slightly different results..

you can see clearly on mine that Injen definitely made more power all throughout the curve.. I explained it all when I got that intake along the lines of this..

AEM definitely has a better bottom end, I felt the torque difference with the AEM though the dyno didnt really show it, but the Injen just pulled up top like there was no tomorrow.. When I first put on the Injen I remember saying to myself I cant wait to go to the dyno and get this overwith so I can put my AEM back on and be done with it.. WELL DAMN.. I got to the dyno and holy hell.. the #s spoke for themselves and the car pullign isnanely up top did me in.. I coulda caredless about torque as all I wanted was top end power from 6-8300.

Also another thing, I had the AEM on the car for a while. I dynoed it, and then the very next day I took the Injen to the dyno so if anything the ECU didnt adjust to the Injen and it coulda very well made even more power.. Both dynos were SAE corrected to be the same conditions on the same gas etc etc etc.. nothing else changed other then swapping intakes..

one last thing.. you guys are putting way to much emphasis on the dynos.. both intakes kick butt.. Im an Injen sales man and I wont tell you not to get AEM cuz its a good intake.. A race will not be determined by one person havingt the AEM and one person have the INJEN.. its not that much of a difference.. good luck in your decisions and remember if you do choose Injen I do sell them here on the site for a great price....
 
#42 ·
climate plays an enormous role in performance, you may have dynoed in good weather thus giving you more hp on the dyno, while he may have dynoed in humid hot weather giving him a much lower reading, TRD exhaust gives the best gains of any exhause on the market.
 
#45 ·
larryd said:
climate has nothing to do with dynos when they are SAE corrected.. SAE puts all dynos at standard temperature adn elevation so they can be compared
This isn't quite right. The dyno correction factors are only valid over a very small range from "standard atmospheric conditions". Also, you are depending on the dyno operator/shop setting up the thing correctly and inputing the humidity (which has to be done every run).

In hindsight, my only regret about this test was that I was using a 3rd gen Injen CAI, not the 2nd gen that Larry used in his test. It is rumored that the 2nd gen made more power. My other slight concern is that there may have been a manufacturing defect with my Injen. My car had major low RPM driveability problems with the Injen intake, which all cleared up immediately after reinstalling the AEM. All I can say is that I went through as much trouble as I could to ensure that the two tests were as fair as possible and that as many variables as possible were eliminated.