Hey guys. I was wondering if you could tell me some of the pros and cons of a lightened flywheel. It will be used more for drag than street racing. Thanks in advance.
yota_racer
whats up yota... i cant remember the correct terms but if you have your stock flywheel lightened by some shop it could damage your flywheel because some parts of the flywheel may lose there structural rigidy..some manufacturers make lightened fly wheels that can from start from 10lbs and still have the same strength as one that weighs twice as much...when you have a lightened flywheel your revs climb way faster but then again they fall faster too...so its all up to you...correct me if iam wrong but i thought i had heard that most people with turboed cars get lightened flywheels so there turbo spools faster? is that correct..well i hope iam of some help to you yota!
Yota, the benafits of a light weight flywheel are huge. I know that you are planning on getting a LSD, you should definately get a flywheel too.
Having a light flywheel offeres a reduction in weight where it really counts, which is rotational mass. This means bigger gains will show up on a dyno because a lot more horse power will actually reach the wheels. This is due to it taking less effort for your engine to turn the flywheel, and is the same result that peeps go for by adding light weight wheels to their cars.
Your car will feel much much more responsive with the light weight flywheel too. When you give the car a little gas, it really goes. I noticed a huge increase in acceleration after I had mine installed. Not only does the car accelerate much faster, it also slows down much faster, especially when you downshift, which I love.
You might want to look into the Blitz active clutch, yota. I have the Toms flywheel with the TRD clutch and LSD, and I love them, but I wish that I had the option of getting the Blitz because I would have seriously considered it. The Blitz active clutch comes with a light weight flywheel, and I have heard that the flywheel is even lighter than the Toms. I'm not saying that the package is better than the Toms/TRD setup for sure, but it is definately worth looking into, Blitz products are really good.
Having a light flywheel offeres a reduction in weight where it really counts, which is rotational mass. This means bigger gains will show up on a dyno because a lot more horse power will actually reach the wheels. This is due to it taking less effort for your engine to turn the flywheel, and is the same result that peeps go for by adding light weight wheels to their cars.
Your car will feel much much more responsive with the light weight flywheel too. When you give the car a little gas, it really goes. I noticed a huge increase in acceleration after I had mine installed. Not only does the car accelerate much faster, it also slows down much faster, especially when you downshift, which I love.
You might want to look into the Blitz active clutch, yota. I have the Toms flywheel with the TRD clutch and LSD, and I love them, but I wish that I had the option of getting the Blitz because I would have seriously considered it. The Blitz active clutch comes with a light weight flywheel, and I have heard that the flywheel is even lighter than the Toms. I'm not saying that the package is better than the Toms/TRD setup for sure, but it is definately worth looking into, Blitz products are really good.
Definitely going with the flywheel. Not sure which one yet. I can get all my installs done at employee price at the local dealership here. With the money I am saving already, I can buy a flywheel and have it installed. 
I should have all this by mid summer. I want to do a few other things first. Thanks for the reply.
I should have all this by mid summer. I want to do a few other things first. Thanks for the reply.whats up guys, well I just received my blitz active clutch about a week ago but I have not had a chance to install it seeing as most of the shops are closed around the holidays and I am getting my TRD helical LSD installed as well. So far the whole unit (the clutch) looks superb, but as far as how much the flywheel weighs I dont have a clue because I really dont know where to start to unbolt it to check it out. Anyways I will give a full review of the clutch in about a week or two after I get it installed.
Hey, I thought that I should point this thread out too you in case you havn't seen it...
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5258
The Fidanza flywheel just hit the market and it is the lightest of all available flywheels out right now.
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5258
The Fidanza flywheel just hit the market and it is the lightest of all available flywheels out right now.
i have some questions i hope that can be answered about this mod.
1. how much performance gain will it give a GT
2. are these mostly for racing or can you use them for daily driving. does it make the car harder to drive when driving normal.
3. i heard someone on the board sometime talking about it'll cause your car to stall easier and make it harder to run things like air conditioner and stuff. is this kinda thing going to be a problem.
4. do these things wear out (since they were saying on the Findanza flywheel "you can replace the center part down the road")
is it worth it for a GT if you don't really race all that much?
thanks for all the help everyone.
1. how much performance gain will it give a GT
2. are these mostly for racing or can you use them for daily driving. does it make the car harder to drive when driving normal.
3. i heard someone on the board sometime talking about it'll cause your car to stall easier and make it harder to run things like air conditioner and stuff. is this kinda thing going to be a problem.
4. do these things wear out (since they were saying on the Findanza flywheel "you can replace the center part down the road")
is it worth it for a GT if you don't really race all that much?
thanks for all the help everyone.
well i had the toms lightweight flywheel on my celica at last recall.. it was very nice but had a few little things i didnt like..
1) when you start the car since its an aluminum flywheel you hear a CLANK noise.. this is common for that type fo flywheel when the starter spins and smacks the flywheel.. like a bell..
2) you lose top end.. so it seemed anyhow.. the revs fly up REALLY fast.. but at the same time it just felt like I was losing momentum up top.. coulda been my imagination..
1) when you start the car since its an aluminum flywheel you hear a CLANK noise.. this is common for that type fo flywheel when the starter spins and smacks the flywheel.. like a bell..
2) you lose top end.. so it seemed anyhow.. the revs fly up REALLY fast.. but at the same time it just felt like I was losing momentum up top.. coulda been my imagination..
The big selling point is like chameleon said. Weight off the crank.
Less mass to move around. Which means you'll see more HP/Torque.. but you won't really GAIN any. What you're doing is freeing some up that was lost in the 'drivetrain loss'.
It will make the RPM's go up faster, I'm not sure how much, haven't seen it on a celica. It will make it easier to stall(I noticed a bigger difference between when it's just me, and when I have passengers), but after a little practice you'll be used to it.
I don't think you can really 'wear out' a flywheel, I think that was just about if you wanna further reduce weight, J3adSeed. And yes, good for daily driving. As it makes any mods seem a little more effective since this reduces drivetrain loss.
I've got one and it's great. (but different car)
noR
Less mass to move around. Which means you'll see more HP/Torque.. but you won't really GAIN any. What you're doing is freeing some up that was lost in the 'drivetrain loss'.
It will make the RPM's go up faster, I'm not sure how much, haven't seen it on a celica. It will make it easier to stall(I noticed a bigger difference between when it's just me, and when I have passengers), but after a little practice you'll be used to it.
I don't think you can really 'wear out' a flywheel, I think that was just about if you wanna further reduce weight, J3adSeed. And yes, good for daily driving. As it makes any mods seem a little more effective since this reduces drivetrain loss.
I've got one and it's great. (but different car)
noR
Toaster: Automatics don't use flywheels.
J3adSeed: The friction face of a flywheel does wear. It is just like a brake rotor. During use (more so during abuse) the friction face of the flywheel can get scored or glazed. Standard practice when replacing a clutch is to get the face of the flywheel resurfaced. You will get it smoothed out (using a lathe). Lets say you have a clutch wear out, now you have metal on metal. It doens't take long for the flywheel face to become so scored that it can't be fixed, then you replace the flywheel.
The Fidanza flywheel has a replacable face, not such a bad idea...
Scott
J3adSeed: The friction face of a flywheel does wear. It is just like a brake rotor. During use (more so during abuse) the friction face of the flywheel can get scored or glazed. Standard practice when replacing a clutch is to get the face of the flywheel resurfaced. You will get it smoothed out (using a lathe). Lets say you have a clutch wear out, now you have metal on metal. It doens't take long for the flywheel face to become so scored that it can't be fixed, then you replace the flywheel.
The Fidanza flywheel has a replacable face, not such a bad idea...
Scott
CarbonB2000GT, the GT and the GTS have different flywheels. TRD makes a light weight flywheel for the GT.
Probably the closest equivilant to a flywheel in an automatic transmition is a flex plate. If you put lighter flex plates in your automatic your car would rev up faster. I don't know of anyone who makes them for the celica though....
Probably the closest equivilant to a flywheel in an automatic transmition is a flex plate. If you put lighter flex plates in your automatic your car would rev up faster. I don't know of anyone who makes them for the celica though....
everybody keeps saying a lightweight flywheel will make the revs drop faster which is obvious. I want to hear from those WHO HAVE IT, approximately how many RPM it drops, i mean compared to the stock flywheel, can you still stay in VVTLI by shifting at 8k. Remember i said approximately, i know it depends on how fast you shift.
David
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